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darkmaian23 12/21/22 10:51:00 AM #1:	Do humans have free will? Yes, all the time. Yes, most of the time. Yes, at least some of time. Yes, but only a little. No, I do not believe humans have free will Do humans have free will? - Results (30 votes) Yes, all the time. 43.33% (13 votes) 13 Yes, most of the time. 13.33% (4 votes) 4 Yes, at least some of time. 3.33% (1 vote) 1 Yes, but only a little. 3.33% (1 vote) 1 No, I do not believe humans have free will 36.67% (11 votes) 11 More and more, I feel like humans don't have free will. What do you think? --- Cuteness is justice! It's the law. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:970314327] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote> Do humans have free will? Yes, all the time. Yes, most of the time. Yes, at least some of time. Yes, but only a little. No, I do not believe humans have free will Vote View Results Do humans have free will? - Results (30 votes) Yes, all the time. 43.33% (13 votes) 13 Yes, most of the time. 13.33% (4 votes) 4 Yes, at least some of time. 3.33% (1 vote) 1 Yes, but only a little. 3.33% (1 vote) 1 No, I do not believe humans have free will 36.67% (11 votes) 11 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '400', topic: '80284792', message: '0', key: '44275d4e' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } More and more, I feel like humans don't have free will. What do you think? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/21/22 10:56:06 AM #2:	I think the question is probably actually ill-posed unless you believe the self has some immaterial substance. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:970314405] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>I think the question is probably actually ill-posed unless you believe the self has some immaterial substance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 12/21/22 11:00:50 AM #3:	humans are physical entities, composed of physical objects. physical objects are bound by the deterministic laws of physics. ergo, humans are deterministic and free will is an illusion. --- Playing: The Last of Us Part II I hope something good happens to you today <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:970314484] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>humans are physical entities, composed of physical objects. physical objects are bound by the deterministic laws of physics. ergo, humans are deterministic and free will is an illusion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BB_mofo 12/21/22 1:00:04 PM #4:	COVxy posted... I think the question is probably actually ill-posed unless you believe the self has some immaterial substance. This is one of the few fundamental philosophical questions that potentially can be answered. It's tied to answering the question whether or not Einstein's "Hidden Variable's" exist and "Super-Determinism". Here is a PBS Spacetime video on Super-Determinism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnKzt6Xq-w4 Here is another with theoretical physicist Sabine Hossenfelder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytyjgIyegDI I included her because she is something of a much needed wet blanket. For example, she calls the Multiverse and String Theory nothing more than religion for scientists who put more faith in math than they do in observation. --- "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -Mark Twain <cite>BB_mofo posted [p:970317033] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>I think the question is probably actually ill-posed unless you believe the self has some immaterial substance.</quote>This is one of the few fundamental philosophical questions that potentially can be answered. It's tied to answering the question whether or not Einstein's "Hidden Variable's" exist and "Super-Determinism".Here is a PBS Spacetime video on Super-Determinism:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnKzt6Xq-w4Here is another with theoretical physicist Sabine Hossenfelder:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytyjgIyegDII included her because she is something of a much needed wet blanket. For example, she calls the Multiverse and String Theory nothing more than religion for scientists who put more faith in math than they do in observation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/21/22 1:05:51 PM #5:	I just think the question becomes nonsense if you believe the self is rooted in physical reality. "Am I just controlled by neural activity or do I control my neural activity?" Doesn't make sense if you define the self as that neural activity. Translates to "am I controlled by my self or do I control my self?" Seems nonsensical to me. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:970317142] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>I just think the question becomes nonsense if you believe the self is rooted in physical reality. "Am I just controlled by neural activity or do I control my neural activity?" Doesn't make sense if you define the self as that neural activity.Translates to "am I controlled by my self or do I control my self?"Seems nonsensical to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 12/21/22 1:08:49 PM #6:	There is no control, only reaction --- http://i.imgur.com/yCW15Zn.jpg <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:970317211] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>There is no control, only reaction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sevihaimerej 12/21/22 1:21:05 PM #7:	Humans can make choices but the decisions we make are informed by previous experience/environment (forming beliefs from direct experience and such). As such they aren't really choices so much as an execution of what the environment they grew up in programmed them to do. --- There was a sig here It's gone now <cite>sevihaimerej posted [p:970317454] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>Humans can make choices but the decisions we make are informed by previous experience/environment (forming beliefs from direct experience and such). As such they aren't really choices so much as an execution of what the environment they grew up in programmed them to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/21/22 1:21:45 PM #8:	obligatory Rush https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urBpdyFCZmo <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:970317463] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>obligatory Rushhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urBpdyFCZmo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneIBreak 12/21/22 1:25:13 PM #9:	Probably not, but it certainly seems like it. --- "If a society can in all conscience permit the cruel treatment of any man, ultimately it will allow it for all." -Bertrand Russell <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:970317533] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>Probably not, but it certainly seems like it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 12/21/22 1:27:39 PM #10:	Yes. I also think Rick and Morty is a dumb show for the most part. --- I've got the Oscar fever! Hope you've got it too! Pour me some bubbly now it's all you gotta do! <cite>WarfireX posted [p:970317575] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>Yes. I also think Rick and Morty is a dumb show for the most part. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/21/22 1:28:21 PM #11:	It seems a bit unlikely that the exact moment of the big bang would have mathematically preordained that we're shitposting on gamefaqs about this right now. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:970317587] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>It seems a bit unlikely that the exact moment of the big bang would have mathematically preordained that we're shitposting on gamefaqs about this right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 12/21/22 1:28:25 PM #12:	As the supreme controller of all, I made you post this thread. And I made everyone who posted here before me, post here before me... and type what they typed. And as soon as you read this post, I will make you do what you will do after you read this post. Mwa ha ha ha!!! --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:970317588] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>As the supreme controller of all, I made you post this thread. And I made everyone who posted here before me, post here before me... and type what they typed.And as soon as you read this post, I will make you do what you will do after you read this post.Mwa ha ha ha!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002 12/21/22 1:59:27 PM #13:	That or a very convincing illusion of it. --- When money talks for the very last time, and nobody walks a step behind When there's only one race, and that's mankind, then we shall be free <cite>PMarth2002 posted [p:970318194] in Do you bel... [t:80284792]...</cite> <quote>That or a very convincing illusion of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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