Board 8 > ALCOHOL MAFIA Topic 2. Drunk on a plane

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Players list

1.Han
2.sbell
3.Plum
4.ctes
5.lopen
6.isquen
7.abacus
8. JC
9. Lea
10. Red
11. Corrik
12. Marth
13.Ben
14.mzero

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Chaeix posted...

you had me until the brackets here

Scum wins games by hiding and giggling and letting Town focus on big picture items, like BCT or Ben's claim, or MZero being wrong about BCT.

Meanwhile, the people who are sitting back and twiddling their thumbs (SBell, Death) are the Scum.

This isn't universally true, of course, but it's a standard trend.

SBell focusing on the more recently active person fits in the archetypal mindset of a Town who is easily distracted by movement and activity and puts their focus there.

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Because I didn't feel necessary. I had already said my vote was loose on him, and in that time he explained to Lopen on WHY he was on Plum for more than his initial reasoning. Plus his posts since then have been higher on content and overall reasonings, which I like.

For Isquen over Corrik - I'm worried that the "louder" players may be pushing his lynch harder to make it easier for people other people who are just as inactive to have an easier time to fly under the radar, if that makes any sense?

Do you think anybody is actually pushing Corrik's lynch?

I think the thing that came closest is me saying that I would lynch Corrik over letting JC be specialed if Corrik gave attitude, which he did, so I guess it's just me atm.

I feel weird about Lopen. Part of me feels that his "play nice" attitude is a nice handwave/excuse to hide being scum when his known town play (at least as told to me, and from what I experienced) is more.

Listen I don't know what you want. I feel like I've had more fangy games than this as scum and town alike recently-- Lopen fangs are not a towntell and lack thereof (kinda? I think I'm being a bit pushy about Corrik atm) is an earnest attempt to "play nice" and not an excuse. People are people more than alignments.

I'm saying we should lynch Corrik. I've laid out my argument. I do not think town Corrik plays like this-- when he's low activity he at least does SOMETHING. I think it is an overcorrection of last game because he basically buried himself as scum there from doing TOO MUCH. I think it's sad that people are just gonna let him not post anything and coast because he can--

Do you want me to try and find someone else? I mean there are other cases I'll consider, but right now Corrik at -1 is the play for me.

I'm not ignoring red or plum.

I just made a more simplified pov. where I guaranteed 1 out of 3. and started with Marth who was actively not being great at the moment.

Counter arguments of butnwhat about that guy aren't the best.

No, they're pretty good, actually.

I mean, Death literally outed SBell last game because, what, he didn't say a single word about Scare dayvigging Lopen?

Who you say naught about says as much as who you say about.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scum wins games by hiding and giggling and letting Town focus on big picture items, like BCT or Ben's claim, or MZero being wrong about BCT.

Meanwhile, the people who are sitting back and twiddling their thumbs (SBell, Death) are the Scum.

This isn't universally true, of course, but it's a standard trend.

SBell focusing on the more recently active person fits in the archetypal mindset of a Town who is easily distracted by movement and activity and puts their focus there.

I mean yes but theres just as much of a scum mindset to be active and push the spotlight away from inactive scum buddies?

in any case its pretty easy for anyone, town or scum, to pick names off of a wagon and go I think there is scum on this wagon on D1 so its kinda hard to properly read into.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I mean, Death literally outed SBell last game because, what, he didn't say a single word about Scare dayvigging Lopen?

Who you say naught about says as much as who you say about.

Certainly. Sure. But I'm currently choosing to focus over here. You want to tell me what points to Marth being town I'm listening. And not just, "oh shucks, he's sorta green, never done played no Mafias before".

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I'm leaning Town on Red.

Does that mean every vote on Corrik is Town? :thinking:

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Interestingly worded considering that's what scum sbell accused Han of last game.

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isnt that why you were on me d1 last game?

to progress the game state?

Or at least, why you stayed on me

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I said Han was only voting for me because he couldn't find a reason not to. That's all.

Han's post(s) about and with Sbell, MZero, and and JC all have substance to them, more than the initial vote on Plum. Yes, he has a vote on Corrik, but it was to follow Lopen, and to get pressure on him and he even admitted he would vote him over someone.

Lopen is the main "loud" voice pushing Corrik's vote, and it is definitely a wide swing but I feel there is a possibility that there is at least a small possibility that he may be trying to shield Isquen by maybe hoping that people would hop on the player who is more known (known probably isn't the right word, but I'm terrible at explaining).

I also think Corrik is a better player than to overcorrect THIS much. And go to show it.

I also wanted to draw attention to Isquen, who has largely done the same thing as Corrik, and yet doesn't have the excuse like Ben does. It's interesting that no one has really looked his way at all.

Votals as crazy as a drunken night out

[4] Corrik- (Lopen), Han, Lopen, Plum, (Lea), (Marth), Red
[1] Isquen- Abacus
[1] Marth - SBell
[1] Ben - (Lopen), Lea
[0] Han -( Abacus)
[O] Lopen - (JC)
[0] SBell - (Lea)
[0] Marth - (Lopen)
[0] Plum - (Han), (Lea), (Marth)

14 are alive, so it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends tonight at 9 pm Eastern!

I'm hesitant to look at Isquen because I feel bad for the previous game, since I called the lynch on him and basically made it happen.

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The way he clapped back at SBell earlier had a level of attitude and confrontation that felt like something a Scumred would not have. Scumred avoids the spotlight like a shadow. Him stepping forward like that reads like a Town move.

Lopen posted...

I feel weird about Lopen. Part of me feels that his "play nice" attitude is a nice handwave/excuse to hide being scum when his known town play (at least as told to me, and from what I experienced) is more.

Listen I don't know what you want. I feel like I've had more fangy games than this as scum and town alike recently-- Lopen fangs are not a towntell and lack thereof (kinda? I think I'm being a bit pushy about Corrik atm) is an earnest attempt to "play nice" and not an excuse. People are people more than alignments.

I'm saying we should lynch Corrik. I've laid out my argument. I do not think town Corrik plays like this-- when he's low activity he at least does SOMETHING. I think it is an overcorrection of last game because he basically buried himself as scum there from doing TOO MUCH. I think it's sad that people are just gonna let him not post anything and coast because he can--

Do you want me to try and find someone else? I mean there are other cases I'll consider, but right now Corrik at -1 is the play for me.

Well, I can't post now, can I, Lopen?

If I do, I am scum who is scared big bad Lopen is on to me and was scared into posting. Then when I get mislynched. Lopen proclaims to the world that he did a great service to mafiakind by getting Corrik to finally participate as town because you knew I was Town all along, but I was being worthless. And, unfortunately, I was just too late to stop the hyenas from descending upon my rotting carcass in opportunistic fashion due to my sorely lacking play.

Eh?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/1/AAM0NeAAECSz.png

Corrik, you have a Dayscan on you as SCUM.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik, you have a Dayscan on you as SCUM.

Oh. I am town miller lite I suppose.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik, you have a Dayscan on you as SCUM.

Wha?

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Corrik7 posted...

Well, I can't post now, can I, Lopen?

If I do, I am scum who is scared big bad Lopen is on to me and was scared into posting. Then when I get mislynched. Lopen proclaims to the world that he did a great service to mafiakind by getting Corrik to finally participate as town because you knew I was Town all along, but I was being worthless. And, unfortunately, I was just too late to stop the hyenas from descending upon my rotting carcass in opportunistic fashion due to my sorely lacking play.

Eh?

Keep going.

Hey Lea I have a second question now. Why did you ignore my first question?

I am so blind good lord lmao

Lopen posted...

Keep going.

Okay. Then if you are town, you concoct a scheme where I was actually Death Miller and scum all along actually and you knew this. You didn't want to divulge this early because Scum would shoot you then and know you were on to them.

If you are scum, you just continue going after lowly inactives with great vigor in a marvelous showing of your true Benoit Blanc, which is of course best suited against inactives without information and instead of piecing together the game through the actives in the game with information actually to look at.

My vile mustache twirling plan is foiled quite easily by you actually playing the game.

Do you actually think I'm scum? If so push for it.

I'm not going to fabricate conspiracy theories for the sake of you thinking I'm town. I don't care if you think I'm town. You're too lazy to actually try and get me lynched anyway.

Lopen posted...

My vile mustache twirling plan is foiled quite easily by you actually playing the game.

Do you actually think I'm scum? If so push for it.

I think I'll read the game first before pointing out how much supposedly "good" players just stagnated the day on inactive players they knew they would never get a lynch on today instead of actually forcing play and developing good reads on the players in front of them.

I'll be looking for who clearly seemed to know I was town already and those who seemed to just be using me as a shield to do nothing today.

Anyways I dont really like that answer given the specific allegation that reds reasoning was unnatural. If youve used the reasoning before, why call the logic unnatural in the first place?

Corrik7 posted...

I'll be looking for who clearly seemed to know I was town already and those who seemed to just be using me as a shield to do nothing today.

The good news is that some people had some in-depth psychological reads of you based on your single post earlier in the game.

Your read of "town lopen starts crackpot conspiracy theories" is completely flawed anyway

I only ever have to make them when I get dumb busted ass roles in dumb setups and am left to linger in a game where all the "good players" are killed

You draw insane psychic, be left to live until day 4 in a 3 faction game, and we'll see how many crackpot theories you end up making.

ViolentAbacus posted...

Wha?

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This feels like classic scum believing town lies too easily

Also

UPDATED TOWN LOCK OF THE CENTURY OF THE WEEK LIST

Lopen
Sbell
Marth
Han

JC and Marth aren't scum together.

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This is much more clear, thank you.

In good spirit of the game I am drunk for the rest of the day. Which is less than ideal but it's prime time for Christmas lunches. I'll be around as much as I can.

Hey Lea. If you are town come on board the abacus train Choo Choo

Lopen posted...

The read to me right now feels like a read of plum the player not plum the alignment.

I'm enthusiastic if it's not a random wagon but if we're just voting for the sake of voting let's vote someone else because plum never escapes pressure without claiming or dying I feel.

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