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TimeCrisis
12/30/22 9:02:11 AM
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Play PS1 disc based games? I thought all Blu-ray players had this functionality since all PS1 games are regular CDs.

or is there another (technical) reason?

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Aridi
12/30/22 9:03:48 AM
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Completely different lasers.

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lww99
12/30/22 9:05:02 AM
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I still think its fucking hilarious that a $500 console needs a little attached base. Couldnt bother to design it to stand on its own.

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MarthGoomba
12/30/22 9:05:08 AM
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The PS5 is too proud of itself to want to read discs with bad graphics

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Gwynevere
12/30/22 9:05:14 AM
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$$$

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VampireCoyote
12/30/22 9:05:48 AM
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the ps1 came out almost 30 years ago

is why

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TimeCrisis
12/30/22 9:06:30 AM
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Aridi posted...
Completely different lasers.
A Blu-ray player cant read CDs?

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Aridi
12/30/22 9:16:44 AM
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A bluray laser cannot. Bluray players usually have another laser pickup included.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/2/AABTRZAAECsS.jpg

edit: This is the technical reason. The real reason is probably more along the lines of what totalnerdken said.

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Kloe_Rinz
12/30/22 9:19:50 AM
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this is the actual answer. CD lasers are what, single digit cents when bought in bulk? it would be trivial to attach an extra laser or two for backwards compatibility
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TimeCrisis
12/30/22 9:41:39 AM
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Aridi posted...
A bluray laser cannot. Bluray players usually have another laser pickup included.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/2/AABTRZAAECsS.jpg

edit: This is the technical reason. The real reason is probably more along the lines of what totalnerdken said.
I see. Thanks

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bigblu89
12/30/22 9:46:30 AM
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Like others have said:

Technical reason: Blu-Ray lasers cannot read CDs.

Most likely reason: So PS can sell you digital versions of games you already have physical copies of.

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Giant_Aspirin
12/30/22 9:52:27 AM
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weird how my PC can play games from 1995 without any issues.

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TimeCrisis
12/30/22 9:58:14 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
weird how my PC can play games from 1995 without any issues.
Exactly, I have a Blu-ray drive in my desktop and no issues with any discs.

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whetstone314
12/30/22 10:02:28 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
this is the actual answer. CD lasers are what, single digit cents when bought in bulk? it would be trivial to attach an extra laser or two for backwards compatibility

they could do things to make both parties win, but they don't. I scream the praises for the ff12 remaster any time i can. The features they added, while simple, are legit huge quality of life improvements that make the game way, way better.

And if they remaster of a game wouldn't sell enough, they shouldn't care that I wanna pop that ps1 disc in and store saves on the cloud and what not. If they want me to find "other ways" to keep playing legend of legaia in 2023, that's on them.
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The-Apostle
12/30/22 10:09:56 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
weird how my PC can play games from 1995 without any issues.
I wish mine could (no disc drive, sadly)...

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bigblu89
12/30/22 10:30:11 AM
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TimeCrisis posted...
Exactly, I have a Blu-ray drive in my desktop and no issues with any discs.
Becasue PCs have dual laser readers. The PS5 has just a Blu-Ray laser.

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TimeCrisis
12/30/22 10:48:22 AM
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Thats pretty cheap of them

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Nirvanas_Nox
12/30/22 10:57:03 AM
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And they don't really even do that so moot point

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Oh_Boy_
12/30/22 11:00:18 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
Becasue PCs have dual laser readers. The PS5 has just a Blu-Ray laser.
And Sony makes both the pc laser and the drive in their console. They chose to segment what the PS5 could read to re-sell their older games. At one point PS5 wasnt even going to play PS4 games without the user paying for them and in fact Sony said that plainy until enough backlash mounted.
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bigblu89
12/30/22 11:39:50 AM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
And Sony makes both the pc laser and the drive in their console. They chose to segment what the PS5 could read to re-sell their older games. At one point PS5 wasnt even going to play PS4 games without the user paying for them and in fact Sony said that plainy until enough backlash mounted.


Which is why I originally said:



Technical reason: Their Blu-Ray lasers cannot read CDs.

Most likely reason: So PS can sell you digital versions of games you already have physical copies of.

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Kitten
12/30/22 11:43:19 AM
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You're better off asking why they don't choose to emulate it, because the PS5 decompiling 1995 code to run on 2022 OS specific drivers isn't just going to magically happen by reading the CD.
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whetstone314
12/30/22 11:46:17 AM
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Kitten posted...
You're better off asking why they don't choose to emulate it, because the PS5 decompiling 1995 code to run on 2022 OS specific drivers isn't just going to magically happen by reading the CD.
idk, we'll see how it goes for them. They keep taking legal action to prevent microsoft and blizz transaction because they are scared and know they aren't offering a good product. Considering many have had their ps5 desire flame out with the atrocious launch, one would think they'd be considering what they can do to get buyers to choose to stay with Sony.
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Number090684
12/30/22 11:47:33 AM
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Definitely. Also I think Sony, and most major gaming companies today don't want players to have access to too many gaming options on a single platform because they constantly want players buying new software and online subscriptions.
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Foppe
12/30/22 11:48:03 AM
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They already got a good PS1 emulator that they have used since the PSTwo, porting it to PS5 should take them what, hours?

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peter064
12/30/22 11:48:55 AM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
At one point PS5 wasnt even going to play PS4 games without the user paying for them and in fact Sony said that plainy until enough backlash mounted.

Please elaborate what you mean because PS5 was designed to play PS4 games

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Kitten
12/30/22 11:53:41 AM
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Foppe posted...
They already got a good PS1 emulator that they have used since the PSTwo, porting it to PS5 should take them what, hours?

This. And if they don't need the disc, their rationale is to just sell the games themselves digitally.

Fun fact. Most of the digital games you buy that are being emulated are the same recycled roms/ISOs spread across the internet that companies like Nintendo/Sony would sue you to hell and back for. The irony? Profitting off someone's original copy they backed up is just as illegal.
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TimeCrisis
12/30/22 1:46:23 PM
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Kitten posted...
You're better off asking why they don't choose to emulate it, because the PS5 decompiling 1995 code to run on 2022 OS specific drivers isn't just going to magically happen by reading the CD.
idk

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Giant_Aspirin
12/30/22 1:47:09 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
I wish mine could (no disc drive, sadly)...

i use an external BR drive that i got for like $50

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The-Apostle
12/30/22 5:46:05 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i use an external BR drive that i got for like $50
Can you hook it up to USB without needing to use HDMI (my laptop's one HDMI port is taken by my TV)?

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Ratchetrockon
12/30/22 5:48:56 PM
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Not powerful enough

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TimeCrisis
12/30/22 7:35:40 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
Can you hook it up to USB without needing to use HDMI (my laptop's one HDMI port is taken by my TV)?
Yea

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Solar_Crimson
12/30/22 7:42:00 PM
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