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Blue_Inigo 12/30/22 10:42:20 AM #1:	The story was kinda trash. The Nohr side has you basically committing mass murder just to get your shithead dad to sit on a throne and reveal himself to his kids. The other side is boring and the Azura mystery just isnt that interesting. The only thing I find mildly curious is the Awakening characters that are canonically in the game. The gameplay was fine. There's that one level with the wind that's kinda crazy. Fates just has a lot of weird stuff surrounding it. The multiple game thing. The straight up incest. The storyline about "curing" a lesbian. The incest. The flimsy reason for having children. Did I mention there's a weird amount of INCEST?! --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:970502969] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>The story was kinda trash. The Nohr side has you basically committing mass murder just to get your shithead dad to sit on a throne and reveal himself to his kids. The other side is boring and the Azura mystery just isnt that interesting. The only thing I find mildly curious is the Awakening characters that are canonically in the game. The gameplay was fine. There's that one level with the wind that's kinda crazy.Fates just has a lot of weird stuff surrounding it. The multiple game thing. The straight up incest. The storyline about "curing" a lesbian. The incest. The flimsy reason for having children. Did I mention there's a weird amount of INCEST?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Shadow 12/30/22 10:44:35 AM #2:	Blue_Inigo posted... The storyline about "curing" a lesbian I don't remember this but it has been a long time --- GT My Lord Shadow "Your Grace, please, the people have surrendered..." "I didn't offer surrender." <cite>Lord_Shadow posted [p:970503009] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>The storyline about "curing" a lesbian</quote>I don't remember this but it has been a long time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 12/30/22 10:47:23 AM #3:	Great game if you completely ignore the story, as you should for all Fire Emblems --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:970503057] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Great game if you completely ignore the story, as you should for all Fire Emblems</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dotsdfe 12/30/22 10:47:42 AM #4:	It would have been top tier FE if not for the writing. Conquest in particular has some fantastic gameplay. But yeah, the writing is genuinely embarrassing. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/dotsdfe I make Fire Emblem videos. Sometimes. <cite>dotsdfe posted [p:970503066] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>It would have been top tier FE if not for the writing. Conquest in particular has some fantastic gameplay. But yeah, the writing is genuinely embarrassing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 12/30/22 10:51:09 AM #5:	rip weird game man --- The stone that fell is still falling, so let that stone be a wondrous thing <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:970503112] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>rip weird game man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 12/30/22 10:58:13 AM #6:	Conquest is possibly the best game in the series from a raw gameplay perspective. Unfortunately it is also a game that is directly benefited by the player being illiterate. Birthright is just Awakening but worse. Revelations is so poorly designed that it should never have been released. I'm convinced that nobody playtested it. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:970503235] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Conquest is possibly the best game in the series from a raw gameplay perspective. Unfortunately it is also a game that is directly benefited by the player being illiterate.Birthright is just Awakening but worse.Revelations is so poorly designed that it should never have been released. I'm convinced that nobody playtested it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 12/30/22 11:00:16 AM #7:	Compsognathus posted... Conquest is possibly the best game in the series from a raw gameplay perspective. Unfortunately it is also a game that is directly benefited by the player being illiterate. Birthright is just Awakening but worse. Revelations is so poorly designed that it should never have been released. I'm convinced that nobody playtested it. Considering it was released after the main games, it's possible they rushed it out. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:970503272] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>Conquest is possibly the best game in the series from a raw gameplay perspective. Unfortunately it is also a game that is directly benefited by the player being illiterate.Birthright is just Awakening but worse.Revelations is so poorly designed that it should never have been released. I'm convinced that nobody playtested it.</quote>Considering it was released after the main games, it's possible they rushed it out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 12/30/22 11:01:58 AM #8:	I forgot that they also trick you into incest if you get with ~~Azura~~, a character many are likely to gravitate to. Surprise! You're related to them too! --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:970503301] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>I forgot that they also trick you into incest if you get with Azura, a character many are likely to gravitate to. Surprise! You're related to them too!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 12/30/22 11:02:16 AM #9:	But it's fake incest because you're conveniently not related to any of them, so it's fine! Ophelia best girl --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:970503308] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>But it's fake incest because you're conveniently not related to any of them, so it's fine! Ophelia best girl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 12/30/22 11:03:55 AM #10:	Compsognathus posted... Conquest is possibly the best game in the series from a raw gameplay perspective. Unfortunately it is also a game that is directly benefited by the player being illiterate. Birthright is just Awakening but worse. Revelations is so poorly designed that it should never have been released. I'm convinced that nobody playtested it. 100% agree. Conquest has great gameplay but a terrible story. Birthright has terrible maps but probably has the "best" story, and Revelations lets you mess with all the characters, but the game is wildly imbalanced against you and some of the map gimmicks are really dumb. Every game has some flaw to it. --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:970503333] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>Conquest is possibly the best game in the series from a raw gameplay perspective. Unfortunately it is also a game that is directly benefited by the player being illiterate.Birthright is just Awakening but worse.Revelations is so poorly designed that it should never have been released. I'm convinced that nobody playtested it.</quote>100% agree. Conquest has great gameplay but a terrible story. Birthright has terrible maps but probably has the "best" story, and Revelations lets you mess with all the characters, but the game is wildly imbalanced against you and some of the map gimmicks are really dumb. Every game has some flaw to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 12/30/22 11:04:07 AM #11:	wackyteen posted... Considering it was released after the main games, it's possible they rushed it out. I'm just not sure they cared. Like that's the only excuse to change join time on characters but not change their bases from the original games. Like even rushing that is the kinda fix that takes very little time to do and is blatantly obvious to anyone familiar with the series, which you would hope the developers would be. Like there is no excuse for characters like Rev!Nyx, Odin or Effie. Nobody could have actually looked at that for more than 2 seconds and went "this is good". --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:970503337] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite><quote>Considering it was released after the main games, it's possible they rushed it out.</quote>I'm just not sure they cared. Like that's the only excuse to change join time on characters but not change their bases from the original games. Like even rushing that is the kinda fix that takes very little time to do and is blatantly obvious to anyone familiar with the series, which you would hope the developers would be.Like there is no excuse for characters like Rev!Nyx, Odin or Effie. Nobody could have actually looked at that for more than 2 seconds and went "this is good".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 12/30/22 11:11:07 AM #12:	The other problems are definitely Fates-specific and are pretty bad indictments of the game, but let's not pretend that incest wasn't built into the franchise long before Fates. Genealogy and Awakening both let you pair up cousins using the second-gen characters, plus *Genealogy spoilers* ~~part of the main villain's plan in the first half of Genealogy involves him marrying his half-sister~~. There's also Clarine in Binding Blade and Priscilla in Blazing Blade who have obvious brother complexes, and of course the weird twincest vibes between Eirika and Ephraim in Sacred Stones that were also hinted at even more when they were added to Heroes. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:970503447] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>The other problems are definitely Fates-specific and are pretty bad indictments of the game, but let's not pretend that incest wasn't built into the franchise long before Fates. Genealogy and Awakening both let you pair up cousins using the second-gen characters, plus Genealogy spoilers part of the main villain's plan in the first half of Genealogy involves him marrying his half-sister. There's also Clarine in Binding Blade and Priscilla in Blazing Blade who have obvious brother complexes, and of course the weird twincest vibes between Eirika and Ephraim in Sacred Stones that were also hinted at even more when they were added to Heroes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 12/30/22 11:12:37 AM #13:	Please do not imply anything bad about a best girl like Clarine. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:970503476] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Please do not imply anything bad about a best girl like Clarine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 12/30/22 11:13:02 AM #14:	dotsdfe posted... It would have been top tier FE if not for the writing. Conquest in particular has some fantastic gameplay. But yeah, the writing is genuinely embarrassing. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:970503483] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>dotsdfe posted... </cite><quote>It would have been top tier FE if not for the writing. Conquest in particular has some fantastic gameplay. But yeah, the writing is genuinely embarrassing.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 12/30/22 11:16:53 AM #15:	Calwings posted... The other problems are definitely Fates-specific and are pretty bad indictments of the game, but let's not pretend that incest wasn't built into the franchise long before Fates. Genealogy and Awakening both let you pair up cousins using the second-gen characters, plus *Genealogy spoilers* ~~part of the main villain's plan in the first half of Genealogy involves him marrying his half-sister~~. There's also Clarine in Binding Blade and Priscilla in Blazing Blade who have obvious brother complexes, and of course the weird twincest vibes between Eirika and Ephraim in Sacred Stones that were also hinted at even more when they were added to Heroes. Fire Emblem loves to flirt with incest but I feel like Fates is the most blatant about it. Camilla is basically trying to have sex with you from day 0 and keeps calling herself your big sister. Your "real" family is also down to impregnate you/let you impregnate them. They got a little too weird with it --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:970503554] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>The other problems are definitely Fates-specific and are pretty bad indictments of the game, but let's not pretend that incest wasn't built into the franchise long before Fates. Genealogy and Awakening both let you pair up cousins using the second-gen characters, plus Genealogy spoilers part of the main villain's plan in the first half of Genealogy involves him marrying his half-sister. There's also Clarine in Binding Blade and Priscilla in Blazing Blade who have obvious brother complexes, and of course the weird twincest vibes between Eirika and Ephraim in Sacred Stones that were also hinted at even more when they were added to Heroes.</quote>Fire Emblem loves to flirt with incest but I feel like Fates is the most blatant about it. Camilla is basically trying to have sex with you from day 0 and keeps calling herself your big sister. Your "real" family is also down to impregnate you/let you impregnate them. They got a little too weird with it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blackrider76 12/30/22 11:36:37 AM #16:	Lets not pretend most of FEs playerbase wouldnt be against incest even if Camilla turned out to be blood-related. But for me, give me Elise. --- Preparation is the last refuge of the weak <cite>blackrider76 posted [p:970503914] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Lets not pretend most of FEs playerbase wouldnt be against incest even if Camilla turned out to be blood-related.But for me, give me Elise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 12/30/22 11:37:19 AM #17:	Camila > Sakura > Hinoka > Elise --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:970503923] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Camila > Sakura > Hinoka > Elise</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scarecrow17 12/30/22 11:45:14 AM #18:	Conquest has amazing gameplay. I will say that Fates as a whole has a 10/10 soundtrack. --- His foundation lie in the holy mountain. Selah. <cite>Scarecrow17 posted [p:970504083] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Conquest has amazing gameplay. I will say that Fates as a whole has a 10/10 soundtrack. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 12/30/22 11:51:53 AM #19:	Scarecrow17 posted... Conquest has amazing gameplay. I will say that Fates as a whole has a 10/10 soundtrack. Oh yeah the final map song in Conquest rocks --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:970504205] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Scarecrow17 posted... </cite><quote>Conquest has amazing gameplay. I will say that Fates as a whole has a 10/10 soundtrack.</quote>Oh yeah the final map song in Conquest rocks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
alphagamble 12/30/22 11:56:53 AM #20:	I'll never understand how they manage to write such a poor story --- ooh <cite>alphagamble posted [p:970504286] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>I'll never understand how they manage to write such a poor story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 12/30/22 11:57:52 AM #21:	Put some fucking shoes on Corrin! --- CrimsonAngel's alt https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/id/DreadedWave <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:970504301] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Put some fucking shoes on Corrin!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 12/30/22 11:57:57 AM #22:	Scarecrow17 posted... Conquest has amazing gameplay. I will say that Fates as a whole has a 10/10 soundtrack. Oh for sure. Fates' soundtrack is absolutely stellar. 3 Houses's soundtrack sucks in comparison --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:970504304] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Scarecrow17 posted... </cite><quote>Conquest has amazing gameplay. I will say that Fates as a whole has a 10/10 soundtrack.</quote>Oh for sure. Fates' soundtrack is absolutely stellar. 3 Houses's soundtrack sucks in comparison</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 12/30/22 12:00:30 PM #23:	NeonTentacles posted... Oh for sure. Fates' soundtrack is absolutely stellar. 3 Houses's soundtrack sucks in comparison 3H still had some great tracks, though it suffered from overuse of a few of them, especially Wrath Strike. That said almost all the Three Hopes remixes of the tracks are absolute bangers. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:970504339] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>NeonTentacles posted... </cite><quote>Oh for sure. Fates' soundtrack is absolutely stellar. 3 Houses's soundtrack sucks in comparison</quote>3H still had some great tracks, though it suffered from overuse of a few of them, especially Wrath Strike.That said almost all the Three Hopes remixes of the tracks are absolute bangers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 12/30/22 12:01:04 PM #24:	alphagamble posted... I'll never understand how they manage to write such a poor story So Conquest had potential. They just forgot to make Bad Daddy interesting. He's a one note character who's a strict asshole and only motivation is serving the bad evil force thing or whatever. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:970504350] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>alphagamble posted... </cite><quote>I'll never understand how they manage to write such a poor story</quote>So Conquest had potential. They just forgot to make Bad Daddy interesting. He's a one note character who's a strict asshole and only motivation is serving the bad evil force thing or whatever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Count_Ravioli 12/30/22 12:01:19 PM #25:	Great story, gameplay and characters... it's a great collection of games. Far better than most FEs <cite>Count_Ravioli posted [p:970504360] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Great story, gameplay and characters... it's a great collection of games. Far better than most FEs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 12/30/22 12:02:42 PM #26:	Count_Ravioli posted... Great story, gameplay and characters... it's a great collection of games. Far better than most FEs I've never heard anyone say FE Fates has a great story. Even in regards to Birthright, which usually gets the "It's the best story of the bunch" --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:970504390] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Count_Ravioli posted... </cite><quote>Great story, gameplay and characters... it's a great collection of games. Far better than most FEs</quote>I've never heard anyone say FE Fates has a great story. Even in regards to Birthright, which usually gets the "It's the best story of the bunch" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 12/30/22 12:11:21 PM #27:	wackyteen posted... So Conquest had potential. They just forgot to make Bad Daddy interesting. He's a one note character who's a strict asshole and only motivation is serving the bad evil force thing or whatever. Fates fundamental issue is that they had a definitive bad guy in Nohr's Garron, even if you sided with Nohr. That would have still been okay if they just went in on you being the evil empire. Like own the idea entirely that this was gonna be a Fire Emblem game where you are going to be the conquering country and build a compelling story around it. Alternatively you could have gone gray for each faction. Neither the Nohrians or the Hoshidans were blatant good guys or bad guys and both sides had entirely reasonable justifications for war. Instead you got Conquest's "we are absolutely on team bad guy, we know we are on team bad guy but we aren't bad guys. So we'll do bad guy things to good guys and feel bad about it but it's all so we can actually expose that the bad guy is the bad guy." They wanted to have their cake and eat it too and in doing so just blew the whole cake up. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:970504532] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite><quote>So Conquest had potential. They just forgot to make Bad Daddy interesting. He's a one note character who's a strict asshole and only motivation is serving the bad evil force thing or whatever.</quote>Fates fundamental issue is that they had a definitive bad guy in Nohr's Garron, even if you sided with Nohr. That would have still been okay if they just went in on you being the evil empire. Like own the idea entirely that this was gonna be a Fire Emblem game where you are going to be the conquering country and build a compelling story around it.Alternatively you could have gone gray for each faction. Neither the Nohrians or the Hoshidans were blatant good guys or bad guys and both sides had entirely reasonable justifications for war.Instead you got Conquest's "we are absolutely on team bad guy, we know we are on team bad guy but we aren't bad guys. So we'll do bad guy things to good guys and feel bad about it but it's all so we can actually expose that the bad guy is the bad guy." They wanted to have their cake and eat it too and in doing so just blew the whole cake up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Count_Ravioli 12/30/22 12:15:36 PM #28:	wackyteen posted... I've never heard anyone say FE Fates has a great story. Even in regards to Birthright, which usually gets the "It's the best story of the bunch" It's not east of eden but it's still a solid story. Especially when compared to every other game almost that's as bareboned as it gets. I'll take getting to see everyone's side in war over trying to resurrect evil dragon for the millions of times its been told <cite>Count_Ravioli posted [p:970504611] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite><quote>I've never heard anyone say FE Fates has a great story. Even in regards to Birthright, which usually gets the "It's the best story of the bunch"</quote>It's not east of eden but it's still a solid story. Especially when compared to every other game almost that's as bareboned as it gets. I'll take getting to see everyone's side in war over trying to resurrect evil dragon for the millions of times its been told </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 12/30/22 12:20:37 PM #30:	Weird is a synonym for bad, right? --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:970504688] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Weird is a synonym for bad, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 12/30/22 12:23:00 PM #31:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Most of their family wanted to bone Corrin anyway. --- CrimsonAngel's alt https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/id/DreadedWave <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:970504733] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Most of their family wanted to bone Corrin anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Null_Gain 12/30/22 1:11:42 PM #32:	I remember so many people being pissed about a certain character who dies in a cut scene if you don't have their social link to A-rank by the allotted mission. --- Switch + 3DS + X1 "Don't steal, stop being ignorant and respect other peoples beliefs." -perthboy on flying a Nazi flag <cite>Null_Gain posted [p:970505590] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>I remember so many people being pissed about a certain character who dies in a cut scene if you don't have their social link to A-rank by the allotted mission.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 12/30/22 1:27:21 PM #33:	NeonTentacles posted... Oh for sure. Fates' soundtrack is absolutely stellar. 3 Houses's soundtrack sucks in comparison I'm playing 3H right now and the music has been spectacular. I like almost every theme besides maybe the generic boss theme which is admittedly a bit bland. Fates's OST was also amazing but I don't think 3H is worse in the slightest. I even think the support and monastery music has been a bit better than Fate's. I haven't gotten to the final map themes of TH yet but I've heard good things. Also, regarding the story, yeah Conquest is pure nonsense but watching these videos does make it enjoyable as a meme if you don't take it seriously imo . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DInHAC3FIL4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiCSp8wO30Y --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:970505861] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>NeonTentacles posted... </cite><quote>Oh for sure. Fates' soundtrack is absolutely stellar. 3 Houses's soundtrack sucks in comparison</quote>I'm playing 3H right now and the music has been spectacular. I like almost every theme besides maybe the generic boss theme which is admittedly a bit bland. Fates's OST was also amazing but I don't think 3H is worse in the slightest. I even think the support and monastery music has been a bit better than Fate's. I haven't gotten to the final map themes of TH yet but I've heard good things. Also, regarding the story, yeah Conquest is pure nonsense but watching these videos does make it enjoyable as a meme if you don't take it seriously imo .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DInHAC3FIL4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiCSp8wO30Y</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dotsdfe 12/30/22 4:12:27 PM #34:	Compsognathus posted... Birthright is just Awakening but worse. I'm going to heavily disagree there, and I actually think it's the opposite. I recently rebeat Awakening in pseudo-ironman form on my channel (95% ironman, but my first death was actually Robin and I just reset after the game over, so RIP to that) in order to do a series tier list video, and...Awakening is really really flawed. Its balance is completely off-the-walls awful with a lot of things being either completely gamebreaking and trivializing the entire game, or just pointless. The last several parts of my run were just Chrom running through the game because there was never a real incentive to do anything else. It's purely a game of stats and a few really broken items, and it suffers for it. BR, for all of its flaws, at least feels like it was properly balanced and at least has slightly more varied maps than what Awakening offers. Pair-up is still great and there's still some really overbearing stuff (like Ryoma), but it at least feels like there's more going on than just "Stack a ton of stats on one paired-up juggernaut and walk through the game." --- https://www.youtube.com/user/dotsdfe I make Fire Emblem videos. Sometimes. <cite>dotsdfe posted [p:970509099] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>Birthright is just Awakening but worse.</quote>I'm going to heavily disagree there, and I actually think it's the opposite.I recently rebeat Awakening in pseudo-ironman form on my channel (95% ironman, but my first death was actually Robin and I just reset after the game over, so RIP to that) in order to do a series tier list video, and...Awakening is really really flawed. Its balance is completely off-the-walls awful with a lot of things being either completely gamebreaking and trivializing the entire game, or just pointless.The last several parts of my run were just Chrom running through the game because there was never a real incentive to do anything else. It's purely a game of stats and a few really broken items, and it suffers for it.BR, for all of its flaws, at least feels like it was properly balanced and at least has slightly more varied maps than what Awakening offers. Pair-up is still great and there's still some really overbearing stuff (like Ryoma), but it at least feels like there's more going on than just "Stack a ton of stats on one paired-up juggernaut and walk through the game."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 12/30/22 4:31:22 PM #35:	I think Birthright is probably better from raw a gameplay perspective. I'll agree with you there. But both games are so...simplistic with their objectives and difficulty (at least through Hard mode, I don't think either do Lunatic well enough to bother discussing them) that the gameplay difference is overshadowed by Awakening's much better story and characters. Obviously that's really subjective, but I guess if I want to play an easier 3DS FE game, I'd go with Awakening because of its better setting, characters and story. If I want to revisit the literally nameless undeveloped work of Fates, I'll do so through Conquest. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:970509570] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>I think Birthright is probably better from raw a gameplay perspective. I'll agree with you there. But both games are so...simplistic with their objectives and difficulty (at least through Hard mode, I don't think either do Lunatic well enough to bother discussing them) that the gameplay difference is overshadowed by Awakening's much better story and characters. Obviously that's really subjective, but I guess if I want to play an easier 3DS FE game, I'd go with Awakening because of its better setting, characters and story. If I want to revisit the literally nameless undeveloped work of Fates, I'll do so through Conquest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xlr_big-coop 12/30/22 4:44:19 PM #36:	Lord_Shadow posted... I don't remember this but it has been a long time I remember this being on the Japanese version, about how a girl has a drink to cure herself of her feelings or something. It's been years so i don't remember the whole story. --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:970509847] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Lord_Shadow posted... </cite><quote>I don't remember this but it has been a long time</quote>I remember this being on the Japanese version, about how a girl has a drink to cure herself of her feelings or something. It's been years so i don't remember the whole story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 12/30/22 4:46:49 PM #37:	Null_Gain posted... I remember so many people being pissed about a certain character who dies in a cut scene if you don't have their social link to A-rank by the allotted mission. who was that? I dont remember --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:970509899] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Null_Gain posted... </cite><quote>I remember so many people being pissed about a certain character who dies in a cut scene if you don't have their social link to A-rank by the allotted mission.</quote>who was that? I dont remember</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 12/30/22 4:47:05 PM #38:	Fates was a bad game. Waifus on point tho. Edit: I take it back, Fates had a TRASH story, but Conquest's gameplay had some pretty fun maps so as a game that makes it fine. Birthright and Revelations were wack tho --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:970509904] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Fates was a bad game.Waifus on point tho.Edit: I take it back, Fates had a TRASH story, but Conquest's gameplay had some pretty fun maps so as a game that makes it fine. Birthright and Revelations were wack tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 12/30/22 4:47:26 PM #39:	NeonTentacles posted... who was that? I dont remember Green ninja man iirc --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:970509907] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>NeonTentacles posted... </cite><quote>who was that? I dont remember</quote>Green ninja man iirc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatAnimeBooty 12/30/22 5:12:34 PM #40:	My favorite part about Fates, is that they clearly don't give a shit about male Corrin at all. <cite>FatAnimeBooty posted [p:970510400] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>My favorite part about Fates, is that they clearly don't give a shit about male Corrin at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozarhok 12/30/22 5:15:25 PM #41:	Conquest is a brilliant game. I have over a dozen playthroughs competed on Lunatic, with every playthrough having more restrictions. --- oops <cite>Ozarhok posted [p:970510461] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Conquest is a brilliant game. I have over a dozen playthroughs competed on Lunatic, with every playthrough having more restrictions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllHeDoesIsWin 12/30/22 5:22:37 PM #42:	NeonTentacles posted... But it's fake incest because you're conveniently not related to any of them, so it's fine! Well unless you marry ~~Azura.~~ In that case it's 100% honest to god incest. <cite>AllHeDoesIsWin posted [p:970510626] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>NeonTentacles posted... </cite><quote>But it's fake incest because you're conveniently not related to any of them, so it's fine!</quote>Well unless you marry Azura. In that case it's 100% honest to god incest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 12/30/22 5:24:31 PM #43:	But she's hot, so it's understandable --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:970510666] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>But she's hot, so it's understandable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/30/22 5:42:18 PM #44:	Blue_Inigo posted... The storyline about "curing" a lesbian. What? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:970511001] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>The storyline about "curing" a lesbian.</quote>What?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 12/30/22 6:00:11 PM #45:	dave_is_slick posted... What? It's only in the Japanese version. They took it out in the US version --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:970511342] in Fire Emble... [t:80294856]...</cite> <quote>dave_is_slick posted... </cite><quote>What?</quote>It's only in the Japanese version. They took it out in the US version</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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