Board 8 > Johnbobb finishing ranking 5 more characters from Scarlet's DCTTRPG

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A continuation of the previous 52 character ranking topic that's about to hit 500

THE LIST SO FAR

6. Goldilocks
7. Spectre
8. Amanda Waller
9. Jay Hunter
10. Black Alice
11. Shining Knight (ft. Winged Victory)
12. Radio Tuner
13. Hob Gadling
14. Thom Kallor
15. Snapper
16. Pasiphae
17. John Constantine
18. Romalthi the Shaper
19. Zor
20. Starsa
21. Canary
22. Ferdinand
23. Thinker
24. Etta Candy
25. MORFIUS
26. Tim Hunter & Molly
27. Johnny Warlock
28. Multi-Man
29. Sasha
30. Susie
31. Damn-All, Darling-Come-Home, the Inner Child & Scott Fisher
32. Lady Luck
33. Laura Penn
34. Manitou Dawn/Manitou Raven
35. Ragdoll
36. Fiddler
37. Demon of the Poster
38. Brother Eye
39. Flippy
40. Lord Death Man
41. Blue Devil
42. Harley Quinn
43. Leroy
44. Freddy Freeman
45. Antithesis
46. Squire
47. Dewormer
48. Parademon
49. Misty
50. Atrocitus
51. Mockingbird
52. Lady Spellbinder

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tentacle arm minerva top tier

Kid
Fright
Mento
Rook
Bane

Dove has an outside shot

That is a neat drawing.

Cody11533 posted...

That is a neat drawing.

Thank you! Did it just to kinda see if I could a while back when there was a "Cartoon Network color palette" art challenge trending

That's what that color palette is! I knew it looked familiar.

5. Arion (who some have come to know as William Knightley)

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Yeah, Scarlet's been guessing this one for a while, but ultimately the man who was once known to be Arion was for sure never going to fall out of the top 10 for me. From the very first weeks of the campaign, as Bloodfruit was still really trying to find her footing within Z'onn Z'orr in Checkmate, there were two men she found herself returning to time and time again as mentors. One we'll hear from in a bit here, and the other was Arion.

Arion was an asshole. He was consistently rude to Bloodfruit, and even ruder to Flippy, going on and on about the incomparably long life he had lived up unto that point. He was an Atlantean who had spanned generations upon generations, and a magician with ability unparalleled within the Oblivion Bar, and he could frankly be as rude as he wanted to be because everything he said was true. Arion was indeed a near-immortal with more combined wisdom and experience than perhaps anyone else within the bar's walls.

And Bloodfruit, naiive and eager to learn, put up with his early criticisms and cruel wit because, frankly, she needed to. She needed that wisdom and experience if she was ever going to establish herself as a worthy member of Checkmate, and she couldn't not establish that, given that she was already on thin ice with some of Checkmate's major denizens and was far from having a surplus of allies in either Z'onn Z'orr or Oblivion. And to her surprise, Arion took her up on this, for the same reason any of the magical community's skeeviest members might take in a myhtical creature: blood.

In her time since leaving Faerie, her blood was her most powerful asset. It's what she used to survive, and it was made clear that that's what it would ultimately take for her to thrive within the walls of Z'onn Z'orr. She ultimately made a pact with the Shadowpact to provide her blood as a way to maintain the magical wards that protected its inhabitants. This drained her heavily and left her out of commission for a while, but it was ultimately worth it to establish her as necessary. And she couldn't help but feel like maybe she had earned just a glimmer of respect from old Arion, as eventually, when she came to him finally asking for help, he took her under his wing in a way.

Her blood had been sold for its magical properties, but she'd never learned to use them on her own. It was Arion who taught her to make glamours, and healing tinctures, and protective wards and even her signature Carbnculo tincture, a magical tonic that allows her to find rare and valuable items hidden from sight. She returned to him again and again and again, learning from him lesson by lesson and becoming a proper alchemist in her own right.

Then the rumors started. I don't remember what originally set it off, but the word within Checkmate's agents was that the Arion we knew and loved-- err, tolerated-- wasn't actually Arion, but an imposter. And Bloodfruit... I don't want to say she believed it or didn't, necessarily. She had never heard of Arion before meeting Arion, so him not being Arion wasn't all that terrifying of an idea. Everyone's got secrets, as she knows full well. Whoever Arion actually was, he was still the one who'd been mentoring her, helping to make her into who she'd become. And then what happened with Brennus happened, and Arion was gone. She never once met William Knightley.

Hint for #4: This character holds a significant, independent role within either Z'onn Z'orr or Oblivion.

The feeder of mantles

Bloodfruit should totally go meet William Knightley.

I think this will be Jim Rook. Mento feels like he's taking maybe the #1 spot at this point.

scarletspeed7 posted...

Bloodfruit should totally go meet William Knightley.

she definitely will at some point, and it will be heartbreaking (for me at least, hard to say for the characters)

Yeah Arion! Such an interesting character and plot point.

I can't believe I forgot about Arion. The reveal of him not being him perhaps has thrown me for a loop on that one.

Also gonna go with Mento

4. Mento

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I already went over the whole Mentoville spiel down at the 4-pack ranking for #31, so I'll save it here. It was clear from the first moments he appeared that Mento was going to be a favorite of mine. This was only furthered by Mento's initial appearance within the walls of Z'onn Z'orr. Immediatley upon arriving, he burst through the doors of the debriefing room to announce his presence and insist upon how much we, the simpletons of Checkmate, desperately needed his assistance and protection. And, I mean, he wasn't really wrong.

Much like Arion and Thinker, he's extremely intelligent and arrogant, and his arrogance is earned. What Thinker provides in technological protection and what Oblivion's fae-blood wards provide in magical protection, Mento now provides in psychic protection. He's basically Professor X, but even more of an asshole. And I love him. He's funny and cocky and, perhaps most interestingly, is so overwhelmingly powerful in his mental prowess that it has caused him to fall into an area of true moral grey. Everyone, even the people he likes, are little more than ants compared to his own mind.

His relationship with Bloodfruit has been consistently intriguing. He's the only person in Z'onn Z'orr that refers to Bloodfruit by her true name, and one of the very few in the world. And in a way, Bloodfruit resents him for it. See, Bragha Aisling is a name that is not simply advised against but straight up illegal, and speaking it pretty much immediately makes one a traitor under fae law. Does anyone remember in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, where simply uttering the name "Voldemort" literally has a magical curse on it that will instantly draw death eaters to your door? That's essentially what Bloodfruit feels will happen if she uses her own name. Is that an over-exaggeration born out of paranoia? Probably, but it's not entirely unwarranted. Names have power, after all.

Anyway, back to Mento. He uses her name for little reason beyond the fact that he knows it, because he knows basically everything, and unlike Bloodfruit, doesn't fear any potential consequence of using it. And while it scratches the paranoia under her skin each time he does, it's also a bit refreshing. It connects her to who she is, and in a way that she knows she's helpless to argue against, though she's tried many times.

Bloodfruit found an unlikely friend in Mento. Yeah, he talks down to her, but so does half of Checkmate at times, and with him it's decidedly not personal when he does so. She goes to him to tell him about her new powers, and even though he's unimpressed (and likely knows about them before she says anything) she still feels inclined to bring them up to him, especially as her powers are breaching into the zone of emotional manipulation, something that is specifically a specialty of his.

Perhaps more than anyone else (especially since the fall of Arion), he pushes her to be something smarter and stronger and better than she is, and she holds onto the thought that, deep down, he feels a real companionship for her.

But then, another frightened young lady enterered into the equation, and everything changed between the two... but we'll get to that later.

Hint for #3: This is a character that Bloodfruit has tried to help on multiple occasions.

Mento is really my favorite relationship with Bloodfruit in the campaign, and when you consider the frail, fragile man beneath the help, I think it's interesting that Bloodfruit has come to rely on something superficial, a facade of sorts. It's very interesting.

Bloodfruit

As much as I want to believe this is a SWERVE of a hint, I think it is really just Fright next.

Also Mento is a FUCK and we HATE him.

Bloodfruit basically installed Bane as El Presidente herself so Bane it is!

Bane isn't making it, Scare.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Bane isn't making it, Scare.

yeah clearly #3 is for all the times she's helped mantle feeder

My assumption at this point is

#3 - Fright
#2 - Rook
#1 - Kid

Haha Same

3. Jim Rook aka NIGHTMASTER

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The hint was referring to, of course, how many lightbulbs Bloodfruit has helped Jim replace.

The top three of this ranking was always going to be set without question, the only decision to be made was which order those three should go. Even now as I'm writing this, I don't know if this is the right order.

When I initially "finalized" my ranking, Jim Rook was my #1. I had thought from the very beginning of starting this ranking that Jim would for sure be #1. But in the last couple months, the top two have gotten some good shit. That's not to say Jim hasn't gotten just as much over the course of the campaign, he just doesn't have that recency bias with him at the moment.

I'll jump back as far as I can for the people here that don't know who the Nightmaster is. Jim Rook aka the Nightmaster is a mystical warrior and owner of the Oblivion Bar. Much like Constantine, he came into the campaign with a particular bias in regards to the fae. He'd served them, and he'd warred against them, and had no shortage of stories about Titania or her lands. Bloodfruit knew of Nightmaster from stories growing up in Faerie, portraying him as everything from a legendary warrior to something of a boogeyman.

Finally meeting him was a humbling experience. He was, if I remember right, the first person she told her real name to. Not that she had much of a choice in the matter, as Rook was the owner of Oblivion and made it clear a fae would not be trusted to stay if she was unwilling to relinquish the power of her name.

I don't think it would be a stretch to say that Bloodfruit's relationship with Rook has grown with more consistency than any other character in Z'onn Z'orr. In her time in Oblivion, Rook has gone from an overseer to a friend, and then from a friend to, if I'm being honest about it, something of a father figure. The combination of her love of drink and her fascination with the magical community has led to her spending much of her free time within Oblivion, and in doing so, she's started to help Jim around the bar and just have time to casually chat.

Jim saw the rise and fall of her story with what was Arion. Jim watched the sacrifices she made to keep the bar safe and helped take care of her in the onset. Jim saw her become an alchemist in her own right, eventually surprising her with her own proper brewery workspace, making her Oblivion's resident crafter. Jim, along with the Shining Knight, helped her bring a wrathful banshee to the Antarctica base where she could roam free, a decision that he didn't even really question because, by that point, Jim had grown to trust Bloodfruit, as she did him. He's even taken to trusting her with the Sword of Night, his magical, sentient sword that has been serving as her assistant within her alchemy practices (particularly helping her brew while staying safe of the iron cauldron).

At the end of the day, Jim has become Bloodfruit's most trusted ally in the world outside of Tim and Molly (and Brennus) and I'd like to think he's come to feel similarly toward her.

Hint for #2: This was a character of very few words (but they've gotten better at communicating their feelings here lately)

I really hope the Kid managed the #1 spot.

unfortunately the kid didn't make the shortlist for the ranking so sorry he'd probably rank somewhere in the 200s

Have to think 2 is Fright, yeah

I think that Jim Rook is the least flashy of the Oblivion crowd, but he's also the most grounded. He's always got some sort of wisdom to sneak into what you have to chat about

Guess the kid upset

ScareChan posted...

Have to think 2 is Fright, yeah

I think that Jim Rook is the least flashy of the Oblivion crowd, but he's also the most grounded. He's always got some sort of wisdom to sneak into what you have to chat about

You know it's a crazy bar when this dude

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Is considered the dull grounded guy lol.

for the record, for those out of the know

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Every Alice JB has done has been fantastic

2. Kid Eternity

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While Nightmaster has been the man closest to Bloodfruit since early in the campaign, Kid Eternity has been going hard for that mantle over the course of the last year. Much like Mento, he benefits a lot from having his introductory session be one of the greatest sessions of the campaign. We found him in Time in a Bottle, a small, magical pub in England, where he was being held captive by an army of the dead summoned back to life. Summoned back to life by Kid Eternity himself, under the torturous thumb of an evil Thomas Edison. We fought John Wayne and Hippocrates and WWI fighter planes and a dragon I think and also The Spectre, on top of dozens upon dozens of others. I brought out Radio Tuner, and in a very rare example of betrayal, he made things so much harder for us (it wasn't an actual betrayal, sometimes random just isn't helpful!).

Eventually, we won, brought him home, and he quickly established himself as one of the most important figures in all of Z'onn Z'orr (only the 2nd character to get a discord room dedicated entirely to them after Roulette & The Metabrawl). Approximately once a month, we can make use of Kid Eternity's power to summon anyone who has died at any point throughout history. The problem with this is, after all the torture Kid experienced, his powers seem to be on the fritz. He can still summon people when needed, but who he summons is often a mystery. Sometimes it seems like we can point him in a vague direction, other times it seems completely random.

I've mentioned a few of those summons here (and even ranked one at #16) but the full extent of his powers is practically endless. The summons are always short-lived, and they're given pretty much free reign to use their time back on Earth to do with as they like. Juliet used it to put on a performance telling her true story that was butchered by Shakespeare. Little Miss Sunshine got high and relaxed in a warm field. Dove joined with our field team and fought alongside us. The only thing they can't do is talk about the afterlife, which often leads to humorous scenes of Kid trying to jump in and hush them anytime it's mentioned.

Most recently, Kid entrusted an amulet with Bloodfruit that would allow her to keep one summon permanently, an amulet which she used on Jenny Sparks, the Spirit of the 20th Century. See, in his time in Z'onn Z'orr, Kid and Bloodfruit have established a particularly strong friendship. Despite him being a character who every PC interacts with pretty substantially, something special clicked between the two of them. Kid is a character of a lot of heavy thought and not nearly as much speech. Bloodfruit is a character unable to hide her own emotions from others, but others are often unable to shield their emotions from her as well. It resulted in a strange dichotomy between the two.

Bloodfruit would notice the heavy emotional toll that summoning people from the dead, only to inevitably return them there, consistently takes on Kid Eternity, while Kid Eternity would notice the desperation Bloodfruit would feel in attempts to bring closure to the dead and see them off better than when they'd arrived.

This has resulted in the two becoming closer and closer as the weeks have gone on, coming to a head very recently in a Bloodfruit-Kid Christmas mini session, during which the two returned to Time in a Bottle as a way to find some sort of closure with the tragic place, only for Kid to accidentally summon an entire Christmas party worth of figures throughout time showing up at the door. We got American revolutionaries like Samuel Adams, Atlanteans, medieval talking birds, orcs, 20th century musicians, and even a beaten and weak Sugar Plum Fairy, a figure the fae look to sort of like Santa Claus, who left Bloodfruit with a magical sweet. Bloodfruit, in her way, did what she could to flutter about and make everyone happy and comfortable, while finding herself sinking into the most peaceful, lovely nights she'd ever experienced. And it was all because of Kid, though he'd never admit to it.

Kid is perhaps the only person in Z'onn Z'orr, perhaps in the world, Bloodfruit just can't bring herself to lie to. I never really know where or how the relationship between the two will progress, but their bond only ever seems to grow stronger. Bloodfruit, as time has progressed, has developed a special kind of love for Kid Eternity, as have I.

Hint for #1: They're nice.

Darn, was really pulling for the Kid to take it.

This ranking is

... nice

1. Fright

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While Fright placing high on my list should be a surprise to nobody, her placement at #1 might be. Like I mentioned before, I debated over the ranking of the top 3 a lot, but at a certain moment it clicked with me that, at least at this point in the campaign, nobody else could take this top spot.

Fright was a character introduced in a session that Bloodfruit wasn't even a part of. Remember those stories about Susie having Mento's helmet and inflicting terrifying torture on everyone? Yeah, Fright was there too! She, much like my campaign 1 character Obrov because everything always seems to come full circle, was an experimental victim of Dr. Jonathan Crane, the Scarecrow. Unlike Obrov, she was left not with near invulnerability beneath a disturbing physique, but permanent fear toxic lying within her skin, so much so that merely bleeding in the presence of the party filled them with fear. Once Susie is brought under control, Fright expresses the desire to teach the world fear, and is ultimately knocked out and brought into holding. It is here, locked in a cell, that Bloodfruit one day stumbles upon her.

When Bloodfruit meets her Fright is, as expected, terrified. In particular, she's terrified of Susie, who now roams free in the halls of Z'onn Z'orr. But it's more than that. Fright is so terrified that it's left her broken and inconsolable. She can't express herself in anything other than her own absolute terror. Bloodfruit, who knows nothing about Fright's past, simply sees a woman so absolutely wrecked by her past that her mental state seemed beyond repair. Maybe Bloodfruit saw herself in what was left of Fright, or maybe I saw a flashback to a young Obrov in the cell. Either way, if there's one thing Bloodfruit cannot stand, it's feeling powerless, and she couldn't bring herself to just leave the poor woman as she was.

She turns to Mento (#4), and makes what could be argued to be her biggest mistake of the campaign, asking Mento if he could use his powers to help free her of her fear. And that he did. The next time Bloodfruit went to see Fright, her fear was gone, but what was left was far from what she intended. Fright was still broken, but in a different way. Any glimmer of emotion or personality had been wiped from her. She stared blankly into space, barely recognizing Bloodfruit, able to mutter nothing more than "that's nice."

For the months upon months that followed, Bloodfruit would hear little more than "that's nice." She would come and talk and talk to her, to no avail, as Fright recognized none of it. She began to bring books to the holding cells, and would sit outside Fright's cell and read her story after story, priding herself on even the tiniest glimmer of recognition to show up on Fright's face. Unwilling to accept that her actions could have left Fright in such a state permanently, she began to take more drastic measures.

She came across the Crimson Corsair Cummerbund, a mystical piece of clothing that would allow Bloodfruit to sacrifice a point of her most used Willpower stat in order to grant Fright a Leadership specialization. Unsure this would work, but needing to do whatever she could, she gifts the cummerbund to Fright. The next time she returns, Fright is the same, but the others in the holding cell have begun to change. In a shocking twist that should've been more predictable, some other weak-willed prisoners have begun to take on Fright's empty personality, repeating her phrase of "That's nice" almost as if it was a sacred chant. And again, Bloodfruit wonder if what she's done to try and help has only made things that much worse.

After visiting Zamaron, she came across a piece of a love-infused stone used for making Star Sapphire rings, and a new idea hits her. What if this could help bring emotion back to Fright again? It's just one emotion, and it's one that she's seen can be overwhelming, but again she has to face herself with the question: "Is it worse to act, or worse to do nothing?"

She takes every precaution with the stone, using the services of Hob Gadling, the blacksmith (#13) and Laura Penn, the seamstress (#33) to craft a necklace that would hold the stone without getting it too close to her skin and a set of matching gloves to allow her to handle it. Bloodfruit gives the items again as a gift to Fright, who really seems to show some true emotion as she receives the beautiful gifts in a bit of wonder. She leaves, again wondering if what she's done was good, and returns to find a Fright that has completely changed.

She speaks full sentences, and is overjoyed to see Bloodfruit return again. She truly seems enraptured by the new feeling of love, and she begins to speak about her love... of fear. She's speaks lovingly of Sasha, her cruel warden (#29), admiring her for the fear she inflicts on the other prisoners. And unable to fully express the rest of her thoughts and emotions, she speaks of how nice everything is, but she does so with power behind her words for the first time in about a year of real-time. It's emotional to see, both for the characters and for myself.

The quest to "help" Fright, from beginning to end, and I say end but it's not truly over, has been by far the longest and most elaborate solo storyline Bloodfruit has set herself on. What really cemented Fright as #1 on this ranking is just how powerful Fright serves as a mirror to Bloodfruit herself. Fright captures everything Bloodfruit fears seeing in herself. The lengths she goes to to help her isn't unlike her stories with Goldilocks and Pasiphae and even Jay to an extent. But what sets Fright apart is just how much the effect of Bloodfruit's attempts to help waver in their effectiveness.

While Bloodfruit may wonder if the ways she goes about helping people like Goldilocks are the right way to do things, it never crosses her mind whether helping itself is objectively good or bad. With Fright, every single step forward she makes could be argued to be, in some ways, a step back, to the point that even now, after all her efforts, she's still haunted by the idea that maybe Fright would be better off if Bloodfruit had never come across her in that cell. It's a complex question of morality and ethics that I frankly don't have a solid answer for.

The quest forever changed the dynamic between Bloodfruit and Mento. It brought her closer to Hob and Laura and even Sasha in ways maybe she never would have otherwise. It fills her with hope and with guilt in near equal parts. Fright is a character that has surprised me constantly and consistently, and every single time I leave a conversation with her, I never know what will happen in the next one.

That is scary

Anyway, that was my ranking, and I hope you all enjoyed it nearly as much as I enjoyed trying to put it together. For fun, here's a handful of characters that were on my short list but didn't end up placing on their own:

Alice
Arisia
Bambi
Battleaxe II
Bluebird
Catman
Christopher chance
Deadshot
Invisible Destroyer
Javelin
Jesse custer
Jessica Midnight
John Stewart
Juliet
La Llorona
La dama
Lena
Little Miss Hollywood
Madame xanadu
Mantle Feeder
Miracle Molly
Mister terrific
Nightshade
Pirate
Pixie
Rot lop fan
Scandal
Siren
Squeak
Thor
Toyman
V
Valda
Vostok
Young frankenstein

The next list I believe is Scare's (aka Lush aka Xander Stray aka Fastbreak) so look forward to that!

That's a rather poetic final write-up! Fright actually shares a lot of similar thematic elements to Pixie, of all characters, but with Fright, it's pretty tragic, every step of the way. I legitimately felt horrible about how Mento handled things - it was not dissimilar to Zatanna, but in a way, it was far less intentional and far more... cavalier. Just a casual mind, altered forever. There's some terror I have about that concept.

Crimson Corsair Cummerbund is a reference to Watchmen, by the way! The Crimson Corsair is a comic book read throughout the Watchmen comic series by a young boy outside a newstand.

Anyways, enjoy your free hour of RP!

Does this make Calvin City the first location to give multiple #1s?

scarletspeed7 posted...

That's a rather poetic final write-up! Fright actually shares a lot of similar thematic elements to Pixie, of all characters, but with Fright, it's pretty tragic, every step of the way. I legitimately felt horrible about how Mento handled things - it was not dissimilar to Zatanna, but in a way, it was far less intentional and far more... cavalier. Just a casual mind, altered forever. There's some terror I have about that concept.

Crimson Corsair Cummerbund is a reference to Watchmen, by the way! The Crimson Corsair is a comic book read throughout the Watchmen comic series by a young boy outside a newstand.

Anyways, enjoy your free hour of RP!

It's honestly horrifying, and I think in that exact moment it clicked for Bloodfruit just what exactly Mento was capable of and his non-chalant response dramatically altered her perception of him. Fright is honestly a big part of why Mento places as high as he does for me.

And I never knew that! That's awesome, it's been so long since I've read the original Watchmen

Btw for those outside the campaign, the Crimson Corsair Cummerbund can be seen in the art I had done of Bloodfruit

https://imgur.com/cO0JJFg

I feel like at some point in the campaign Fright is going to have a yellow lantern ring come visit her and that combined with her Leadership trait is going to make for a Sinestro rival.

Ari is probably our yellow Lantern. Parallax is taking to her

This lady literally loves fear and wants to "teach the world fear". That's like the perfect YL even without counting her power to literally inspire fear in everyone around her.

How can a ring not be drawn to her lol.

This discussion makes me think Fright needs a Starsa scan

Fastbreak posted...

This discussion makes me think Fright needs a Starsa scan

I've been considering trying to do that!

But I also worry about Starsa's reaction to a literal piece of Zamaron being around Fright's neck

She can recruit Fright to hold down Eros

I think it's that Fright is more subservient to fear, than as a partner to it.

I mean, you can't just have a high fear quotient. You have to have a high willpower too. And Fright has like, zero willpower.

Wait really? I thought only green cared about willpower. Yellow I thought was powered by the fear of everyone in the area.

Hence it being all about the ability to instill fear.

I think it's connected to needing to handle the ring itself. If I am understanidng things right the Green Lanterns came first and everything since have been an offshoot of them, so needing the willpower could be the common factor in all of them

Maniac64 posted...

Wait really? I thought only green cared about willpower. Yellow I thought was powered by the fear of everyone in the area.

Hence it being all about the ability to instill fear.

This is borne out of the statistic necessity of a threshold to wield the ring in-campaign. There are two components - a satisfactory will (which is based on the presence statistic), and the ability to instill great fear, which is based on the intimidation statistic. All told, it's the same number as the GL stat but out of a different stat pool.

The rings of the various Corps do still need *some* level of will, regardless of which Corps, just to maintain control of the ring.

And probably the last ranking from these marathon lists:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80299922