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Skip Bayless sucks so it's really easy to shit on him

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

Skip Bayless sucks so it's really easy to shit on him

Pretty much.

Background_Guy posted...

The current form of football is gonna be one of those things people look back on in 100 years and just be confused why the heck we did that to ourselves. Like treating syphillis with mercury. The narrative has already changed so much in the last ten years.

Right? I love the sport, always have, but its basically a blood sport. Itll mess up your body, mind, or both, and you wont know to what extent it will until you do. Maybe you get lucky.maybe you dont.

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

everyone jumped on the bandwagon for attacking Skip and wanting Fox Sports to fire him but nothing he said was bad

Apparently people don't know how to read since he was literally saying the first part of his tweet was irrelevant

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

everyone jumped on the bandwagon for attacking Skip and wanting Fox Sports to fire him but nothing he said was bad

Apparently Shannon Sharpe didn't show up because of it, but I didn't deep dive into if that was the actual reason.

KainWind posted...

Apparently Shannon Sharpe didn't show up because of it, but I didn't deep dive into if that was the actual reason.

Between that and the shit Skip pulled the other week insulting Shannon, I wouldn't be surprised.

https://twitter.com/clutchpointsapp/status/1610292514485055490?s=46&t=HeORa5cVzzfodkQk-r2GwA

fakest tears ever smh

Skip knew what reactions that would have and that's just what he does to stay relevant. He's a pro douche bag.

KainWind posted...

I hope I don't sound incentive when I ask this. Why can't we talk about what will happen with the Bills-Bengals game while waiting on updates for Hamlin? People jumped all over Skip Bayless for this tweet last night when he was obviously concerned for the man:

https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1610101204687949827?t=3iOh66pdCvxhwjlV9ueD_A&s=19

I looked at some of the replies. Those people need to get a grip. Some of them are asking for him to be fired.

Thanks I feel a bit less like a sociopath. SVP mentioned the magnitude of the game a few times last night too, but kept brushing it off.

Everyone on sports news is in tears but they better not all lets it all go later when this is all over. This incident should spark change in football

Zikten posted...

Everyone on sports news is in tears but they better not all lets it all go later when this is all over. This incident should spark change in football

What kind of change for a freak accident?
Honest question.

KainWind posted...

Thanks I feel a bit less like a sociopath. SVP mentioned the magnitude of the game a few times last night too, but kept brushing it off.

Yeah it's not sociopathic to wonder. It's appropriate to caveat scheduling speculation with "obviously we only care about the player right now," as most have been doing.

It's a massive logistical situation with really no precedent other than the covid season. Unlike the covid year, though, just shifting everything back a week isn't feasible as there will be actual concerts and other events that already have the venues booked, vs. peak covid when massive events like that weren't happening. Not to mention moving those games a day or two didn't really matter for a week 12 regular season team between two dumpster fires. This was a matchup between the prospective 2 seed and 3 seeds (the higher seed would get home field should the teams meat in the playoffs).

We're already into Tuesday of week 18. Bills and Bengals both play important games this upcoming Sunday. Both of which have massive seeding implications (Bills moreso).

That leaves, what, an attempt to play tomorrow at the earliest to give a realistic break time for Sunday's week 18 game?

They could talk about pushing the week 18 games to Monday as well, or even Tuesday, but that's still two games in six days if they were to play tomorrow (which I can't imagine is going to happen). And THEN at least one of those two teams will be playing a playoff game the following week.

Alternatively, they could call the game a tie, in which case, the Chiefs take the 1 seed.

There's really no good path.

It's just unprecedented territory, really. So it's not insensitive to be curious.

Zikten posted...

Everyone on sports news is in tears but they better not all lets it all go later when this is all over. This incident should spark change in football

Respectfully, this ain't it. This type of contact occurs hundreds of times a week. The type of "change" that would prevent this hit would literally end the sport.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

What kind of change for a freak accident?
Honest question.

Maybe better armor. I don't know. Or just end the sport. They at least should not let high schoolers play ut

And heres the chiefs fan that wants a tie so they get the one seed

shockpikachuface

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

What kind of change for a freak accident?
Honest question.

Soon:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/0/AAEhCpAAEDiy.jpg

I believe the Bengals can still get a 1, 2, 3, or 5 seed assuming all games are played. A 1 and 5 seed is out if this game isn't played or is called a tie.

l0bcity posted...

And heres the chiefs fan that wants a tie so they get the one seed

shockpikachuface

Cute attempt at the gotcha moment bruv.

I absolutely want the 1 seed, but your projection that I want a man to die for it to happen is sorely misguided.

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The more I was thinking about it before seeing this tweet, adding a week seems most fair to everyone. The host cities for a lot of playoff games aren't set yet, or were recently set so hopefully there is some flexibility there. The Super Bowl absolutely cannot be moved, but it's 2 weeks after conference championship games so there is some room to maneuver.

Almost at 4 million for his charity yeah baby get well soon Damar

IMO, there should be an off week between the regular season and the first round of the playoffs anyways, both to accommodate unforeseen situations like this and just for players to get some rest before the playoffs. Adding it in as a permanent thing going forward would be good.

Push everything back and just make a 1 week break between CG and SB. Postpone the pro bowl til after the SB.

JasonSehorn posted...

https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive

Damars toy drive is getting tons of donations thats awesome

4 million keep it going baby

Nothing should change safety wise. It's a freak accident.

This isn't concussions, which continue to be a problem in football and all sports. This isn't deadly crashes in auto racing.

And while sports absolutely do not matter in comparison to someone's life, there has to be a discussion about how to reschedule this game at some point. What are they gonna do? Cancel the season? Deaths and national tragedies don't even end seasons.

Zikten posted...

Maybe better armor. I don't know. Or just end the sport. They at least should not let high schoolers play ut

https://www.sadlersports.com/blog/commotio-cordis/

Should baseball, softball, hockey, soccer, and lacrosse be ended too? This isn't a football problem, it's a freak occurrence.

DeathVelvien posted...

https://www.sadlersports.com/blog/commotio-cordis/

Should baseball, softball, hockey, soccer, and lacrosse be ended too? This isn't a football problem, it's a freak occurrence.

This.

As much as there is a reason to criticize football and its lack of safety, this isn't it.

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1610342617707077634?s=46&t=RmbEIiyppZjQzhMokXN-mQ

Game will not resume this week

JasonSehorn posted...

Game will not resume this week

So either they push the playoffs back a week (losing the off week between the conference championships and the Super Bowl in the process) to give them a spot to play this game, or the game just doesn't get played. Those are the only outcomes I see happening at this point.

There have been hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of hits over the course of NFL history, and this is seemingly the first time that a hit has caused someone to enter cardiac arrest on the field.

That's not remotely proof of a widespread change being needed. It was a horrific fluke that seems to be a one in a million type of scenario likely rounding down.

ElatedVenusaur posted...

Right? I love the sport, always have, but its basically a blood sport. Itll mess up your body, mind, or both, and you wont know to what extent it will until you do. Maybe you get lucky.maybe you dont.

I don't think any institutional change in the NFL is likely to happen soon, they just have no real incentive. The change will happen from parents seeing all this CTE stuff in the news.
I think you'll start seeing the effects in middle/upper class neighborhoods first, parents just not wanting their kids playing football. I think it's pretty likely that in 20/30 years football will have a reputation as a lower class sport, because the only parents willing to risk it will be those who see it as a chance to pay for college.

Zikten posted...

Maybe better armor. I don't know. Or just end the sport. They at least should not let high schoolers play ut

Shut the fuck up.

Background_Guy posted...

I don't think any institutional change in the NFL is likely to happen soon, they just have no real incentive. The change will happen from parents seeing all this CTE stuff in the news.
I think you'll start seeing the effects in middle/upper class neighborhoods first, parents just not wanting their kids playing football. I think it's pretty likely that in 20/30 years football will have a reputation as a lower class sport, because the only parents willing to risk it will be those who see it as a chance to pay for college.

sad to say. it already has that reputation of being a sport for the inner city lower class kids. Most people that arent poor would risk their lives to play football.

Boxing has the same stigma too

JasonSehorn posted...

4 million keep it going baby

4.6 million

Blade_Trinity posted...

Shut the fuck up.

Which part ? High schoolers should not play it. It can kill them

https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive

its hit 5 million baby prayers up for Damar

I've been saying for years my kids aren't allowed to play football.

Nothing to gain and too high risk of serious injury.

KainWind posted...

I hope I don't sound incentive when I ask this. Why can't we talk about what will happen with the Bills-Bengals game while waiting on updates for Hamlin? People jumped all over Skip Bayless for this tweet last night when he was obviously concerned for the man:

https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1610101204687949827?t=3iOh66pdCvxhwjlV9ueD_A&s=19

I asked about the game status and even posted that tweet earlier in this thread. A user told me to shut the fuck up. I guess I was too soon and it wasnt popular at the time to ask.

The NFL won't get serious about player safety unless they are legally forced to and/or the talent pool starts drying up a lot from kids no longer playing football.

MelbuFrahma4 posted...

I asked about the game status and even posted that tweet earlier in this thread. A user told me to shut the fuck up. I guess I was too soon and it wasnt popular at the time to ask.

Bills probably forfeit. And I don't see them playing Sunday either. You have a team that's going to be zombies and mentally shattered for the playoffs.

Starks posted...

Bills probably forfeit. And I don't see them playing Sunday either. You have a team that's going to be zombies and mentally shattered for the playoffs.

If Bills forfeit the game Sunday Patriots automatically make the playoffs and Dolphins/Steelers are out of luck. Their games would become meaningless.

Starks posted...

Bills probably forfeit. And I don't see them playing Sunday either. You have a team that's going to be zombies and mentally shattered for the playoffs.

They're not going to forfeit, and it's a silly notion to even think that. For future games at least. Anything is on the table for the Cincinnati game.

https://twitter.com/cameronwolfe/status/1610435568395079682?s=46&t=AFCeMmWEsjWcOzXNtI4BEQ

update

it's terrible what happened to the player, but it's kinda nice seeing all of the support for him it's bringing and how it's this unifying thing.

g0ldie posted...

it's terrible what happened to the player, but it's kinda nice seeing all of the support for him it's bringing and how it's this unifying thing.

Yea this got more people talking about NFL player safety than any concussion during the season. Or all those players tearing their ACL on artificial turf.

a lot of people brush those kind of injuries off, and take for granted the player will come back not too long from there.

but when you see a young person close to death like that, it's an eye opener of how dangerous the sport can be.

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

https://twitter.com/cameronwolfe/status/1610435568395079682?s=46&t=AFCeMmWEsjWcOzXNtI4BEQ

update

Damn. A bit of an improvement. Some good news.

I know a lot of sports people are religious, but the amount of "thoughts and prayers" posts and even Dan Orlovsky's prayer on TV has been insane. This is also the most I've ever refreshed twitter waiting for any kind of update.

Still better than anyone bringing up vaccines.

YellowSUV posted...

The NFL won't get serious about player safety unless they are legally forced to and/or the talent pool starts drying up a lot from kids no longer playing football.

One in a million freak accident and people want something, anything done

KainWind posted...

I know a lot of sports people are religious, but the amount of "thoughts and prayers" posts and even Dan Orlovsky's prayer on TV has been insane. This is also the most I've ever refreshed twitter waiting for any kind of update.

Still better than anyone bringing up vaccines.

There's nothing wrong with "thoughts and prayers" if there's nothing else that can be done. People have a problem with it when people who could do something to fix a problem fall back on it.

As long as it's not coming from the doctors saying that instead of treating him it's fine.