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UnfairRepresent
01/04/23 6:02:28 AM
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A woman who claimed she was raped by several men and the victim of an Asian grooming gang has been convicted of perverting the course of justice.

Eleanor Williams, 22, published pictures of her injuries and an account of being groomed, trafficked and beaten, in a viral Facebook post in May 2020.

The post was shared more than 100,000 times and gained the attention of former English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson, who led protests in her home town of Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria.

During the demonstrations, a curry house had its windows smashed and a Muslim takeaway owner was chased down the street by men who poured alcohol over his head, The Guardian reported.

However the court heard that Williams' story was fiction and and that she had injured herself with a hammer.

Today a jury at Preston Crown Court found her guilty of eight counts of doing acts tending and intended to pervert the course of justice.

Williams, of Teasdale Road, Barrow, stared straight ahead as the verdicts were returned.

She pleaded guilty at an earlier hearing to one count of perverting the course of justice, which related to contacting her sister and mother with requests for them to take a hammer to her solicitor.

Honorary Recorder of Preston Judge Robert Altham adjourned sentencing to March 13 and 14.

Elleanor Williams, 22, has been convicted of eight counts of perverting the cause of justice

During the trial the jury heard evidence from business owner Mohammed Ramzan, who Williams claimed had groomed her from the age of 12.

Under cross-examination, Mr Ramzan asked Louise Blackwell KC, defending: 'Don't you think you have put my life through enough hell, or your client has?'

In what Mr Sandiford compared with a scene from Liam Neeson film Taken, Williams claimed Mr Ramzan had put her to work at brothels in Amsterdam and sold her at an auction there.

But the court heard at the time she was in Amsterdam, his bank card was being used at a B&Q in Barrow.

Another man accused of rape by Williams, Jordan Trengove, told the court: 'It can ruin your life and it has ruined mine.'

During her evidence, Williams denied telling a 'pack of lies' to the police and the jury.

Asked about her Facebook post, she said: 'I wanted people to know what was going on in Barrow, still is going on.'

Full Article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11595361/Eleanor-Williams-guilty-Woman-falsely-claimed-raped-trafficked.html

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Smashing your own face in to...own the libs? I guess

gotta be some mental health issues here

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Master_Bass
01/04/23 6:04:38 AM
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What a very stable genius.

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Irony
01/04/23 6:51:12 AM
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Probably 48 hours community service


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Kloe_Rinz
01/04/23 7:00:55 AM
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she should be charged with the full punishment of whatever the people she was accusing would have gotten if she succeeded, and then doubled
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UnfairRepresent
01/04/23 7:02:24 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
she should be charged with the full punishment of whatever the people she was accusing would have gotten if she succeeded, and then doubled
So like 17 life sentences?

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A_Good_Boy
01/04/23 8:03:24 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
So like 17 life sentences?
And one to grow on.

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Cheetaluv
01/04/23 8:13:17 AM
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She should spend a couple of years doing community service at a shelter for abused women.

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CassandraCroft
01/04/23 8:14:49 AM
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If I were the judge I would lock her up in the local funny farm and then throw away the key.

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Cobra1010
01/04/23 8:16:15 AM
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So what punishment is she getting exactly? Those men could have been burnt alive by the vigilantes.

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Sphyx
01/04/23 8:49:54 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
she should be charged with the full punishment of whatever the people she was accusing would have gotten if she succeeded, and then doubled
You should be punished for the crime you committed. Not for the time your crimes could potentially cost others.

It shouldn't be a punishment contest.

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Prismsblade
01/04/23 8:57:35 AM
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It's almost scary how far some woman will go either for attention and or accuse and hurt somebody.

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ZevLoveDOOM
01/04/23 8:58:44 AM
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seems like this bitch got hammered...

>_>

but jokes aside, wtf.
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Kloe_Rinz
01/04/23 9:39:24 AM
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Sphyx posted...
You should be punished for the crime you committed. Not for the time your crimes could potentially cost others.

It shouldn't be a punishment contest.
The crime she committed should have a punishment equal to double the punishment of what her victims would have received.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/04/23 9:49:59 AM
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wonder why TC had to editorialize the title and specifically call out "Muslims"?

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Sphyx
01/04/23 9:51:51 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
The crime she committed should have a punishment equal to double the punishment of what her victims would have received.

Sphyx posted...
It shouldn't be a punishment contest.


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Kloe_Rinz
01/04/23 9:55:02 AM
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Its not
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Mistere_Man
01/04/23 9:57:09 AM
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I wonder if she has Munchausen disorder? They often hurt themselves/others for attention/sympathy.

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UnfairRepresent
01/04/23 10:01:44 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
wonder why TC had to editorialize the title and specifically call out "Muslims"?
lolwut

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Giant_Aspirin
01/04/23 10:03:51 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
lolwut

why did you change the title in the way that you did? the article only makes one mention of the word "Muslim" and does not use it in the way you did. can you explain the edit you made?

here is the only quote from the source material containing the word "Muslim":

During the demonstrations, a curry house had its windows smashed and a Muslim takeaway owner was chased down the street by men who poured alcohol over his head

the editorialization you made to the topic title makes it sounds like she was specifically targetting these individuals because they're Muslims. the article does not give that impression at all.

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MelbuFrahma4
01/04/23 10:06:04 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
lolwut

You dun goofed TC. This was to frame Asians not Muslims.

She framed "Asian gang" there was demonstrations in response and a Muslim owner got attacked.

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UnfairRepresent
01/04/23 10:17:22 AM
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MelbuFrahma4 posted...
You dun goofed TC. This was to frame Asians not Muslims.

She framed "Asian gang" there was demonstrations in response and a Muslim owner got attacked.
You guys know that in the UK when people say Asian 97% of the time they mean India, Bangladesh, Pakistan etc

not China/Japan

She was very intentionally openly targeting and addressing Muslims , as were the EDL using this story

This is the weirdest alt right spin I have seen since The Admiral got banned

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Giant_Aspirin
01/04/23 10:21:10 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
She was very intentionally openly targeting and addressing Muslims ,

what gives you that impression? can you show me the quote(s) from the source material that support this claim?

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Giant_Aspirin
01/04/23 10:24:02 AM
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another source (the BBC, not the dailymail which OP used), which again makes no specific mention of her targeting Muslims.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-64151441

according to the prosecutor, she was targeting "random names":

Jonathan Sandiford KC, prosecuting, said Williams had gone online to "effectively find random names" to present as either victims or perpetrators of trafficking.



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UnfairRepresent
01/04/23 10:25:03 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

It's pretty easy for an expert to tell if wounds are self inflicted or not

and the hammer had no one else's blood or DNA on it.

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MelbuFrahma4
01/04/23 10:31:59 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
You guys know that in the UK when people say Asian 97% of the time they mean India, Bangladesh, Pakistan etc

not China/Japan

She was very intentionally openly targeting and addressing Muslims , as were the EDL using this story

This is the weirdest alt right spin I have seen since The Admiral got banned

Ok that makes sense. It would probably help if they named the victims she framed as being part of a sex trafficking ring.

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Drumiester
01/04/23 10:37:26 AM
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This is why you shouldn't always believe women.

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Suolevram
01/04/23 10:48:49 AM
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Drumiester posted...
This is why you shouldn't always believe women.
A friend of mine had a volatile ex girlfriend who would overreact to the slightest things. One time they were driving and she wanted him to stop at a store and he didn't want to. She flipped out and threw herself out of the passenger side. She called the cops saying he threw her out. After examination they concluded she did it herself and she got put in psychiatric ward for a week.

Not every situation is like that but he could have done serious time for absolutely nothing.

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UnfairRepresent
01/04/23 11:24:59 AM
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Drumiester posted...
This is why you shouldn't always believe women.
I feel like people who say this don't know what that saying means

it's not "Anythings any female ever says ever is automatically true" it's that claims of violence and rape/sexual assault should always be investigated and taken seriously

Yes including this one.

A lot of people including a lot of politicians just want to downplay and deny harassment and abuse of women

This was the whole impetus behind MeToo

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Drumiester
01/04/23 11:30:53 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
it's not "Anythings any female ever says ever is automatically true" it's that claims of violence and rape/sexual assault should always be investigated and taken seriously

Yes, claims should be investigated. But sadly this has translated into men being "guilty until proven innocent, but even after so, never being looked at the same again"


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Prestoff
01/04/23 11:33:51 AM
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Yeah the #MeToo movement wasn't about believing every women's claims, but it was more about them getting an actual voice to get listened. To take claims of sexual or violent assault seriously and not just sweep it under the rug.

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UnfairRepresent
01/04/23 11:33:57 AM
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Drumiester posted...
Which has translated into men being "guilty until proven innocent, but even after so, never being looked at the same again"
Which is why Bill Cosby and Vince McMan and Donald Trump and Bill O'Reily are behind bars

oh wait

No it hasn't. Investigating claims is not a bad thing and society has not nearly changed enough, especially in right wing "Boys will be boys" circles

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TheValiant
01/04/23 11:36:56 AM
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Sphyx posted...
You should be punished for the crime you committed. Not for the time your crimes could potentially cost others.

It shouldn't be a punishment contest.
I wonder if you'd be singing a different tune if she wasn't somewhat attractive. As Cobra said, those men could have been murdered. Fuck that bitch.

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darkmaian23
01/04/23 11:50:58 AM
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Suolevram posted...
A friend of mine had a volatile ex girlfriend who would overreact to the slightest things. One time they were driving and she wanted him to stop at a store and he didn't want to. She flipped out and threw herself out of the passenger side. She called the cops saying he threw her out. After examination they concluded she did it herself and she got put in psychiatric ward for a week.

Not every situation is like that but he could have done serious time for absolutely nothing.
This kind of thing needs more attention. Yes, claims of abuse should be taken seriously, and yes it is wrong to stigmatize the mentally ill, but people do need to be aware that these patterns of behavior exist, are dangerous, and are definitely not OK.

More than one of my relatives do things like this, and it just makes you die inside. Like, you're supposed to be nice and compassionate, and maybe they are OK most of the time, but you never know when this is going to happen. Will they start rumors? Kill your reputation? Involve the police? Attack you physically?

I also had a friend once who was so toxic that her doctor refused to refer her to group therapy because they thought it would be dangerous for the other participants to be forced to interact with her.

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Ricemills
01/04/23 12:05:02 PM
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MelbuFrahma4 posted...
Ok that makes sense. It would probably help if they named the victims she framed as being part of a sex trafficking ring.

what?

UnfairRepresent posted...
During the trial the jury heard evidence from business owner Mohammed Ramzan, who Williams claimed had groomed her from the age of 12.



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Sphyx
01/04/23 4:52:53 PM
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TheValiant posted...
I wonder if you'd be singing a different tune if she wasn't somewhat attractive.
No, and I'm not sure I understand what about my post led you to that conclusion.

I have always been very clear about my views on this issue, regardless of how low my opinion is of the false accuser, and definitely regardless of how attractive they might be.

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Makio
01/04/23 5:47:09 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
It's almost scary how far some people will go either for attention and or accuse and hurt somebody.
Fixed. Don't single out an entire sex.

Also it's "women", not "woman".

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UnfairRepresent
01/05/23 11:54:47 AM
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Mistere_Man posted...
I wonder if she has Munchausen disorder? They often hurt themselves/others for attention/sympathy.
I thought that was for illnesses, like taking drugs so you go to hospital, not physically assaulting yourself.

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Mistere_Man
01/05/23 1:28:05 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I thought that was for illnesses, like taking drugs so you go to hospital, not physically assaulting yourself.

I could be wrong, but I believe it can involve self harm as well.

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dioxxys
01/05/23 7:22:35 PM
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Drumiester posted...
This is why you shouldn't always believe women.
But it should be "dont believe anyone".

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Kloe_Rinz
01/05/23 7:26:50 PM
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The default state of being should be trust, but verify. Usually people dont make false accusations, and I would believe that it is more likely that a rape accusation is true rather than a lie. But always find the facts
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dioxxys
01/06/23 7:37:59 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
The default state of being should be trust, but verify. Usually people dont make false accusations, and I would believe that it is more likely that a rape accusation is true rather than a lie. But always find the facts
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Foppe
01/06/23 2:47:38 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
and the hammer had no one else's blood or DNA on it.
*puts on gloves*
Why would the hammer I hold have my blood and DNA?

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EyeWontBeFooled
01/06/23 2:49:10 PM
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Cheetaluv posted...
She should spend a couple of years doing community service at a shelter for abused women.
She'll get her shit kicked in to make it up in spades.

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UnfairRepresent
01/06/23 3:14:40 PM
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Foppe posted...
*puts on gloves*
Why would the hammer I hold have my blood and DNA?
it's possible but like I said experts can tell if wounds are self inflicted

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Number090684
01/06/23 3:17:43 PM
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Female Jussie Smollet? Faking being a victim, especially of a hate crime, is never a good look. Hopefully they throw the book at her in court.
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UnfairRepresent
01/07/23 1:07:20 PM
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Also just to add some more evidence to the self-inflicted wounds. The hammer used was one Eleanor bought just before the wounds were inflicted. The police literally have her receipt of buying the hammer.


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teep_
01/07/23 1:36:40 PM
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Punish her to the fullest extent possible under the law

Sadly, this won't stop scum like the EDL

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Fony
01/07/23 1:41:37 PM
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If this is that UK chick, she has falsely accused two other men before these guys and caused one to almost kill himself. UK courts though, Im sure theyll sentence her to a few lectures and 3 weeks probation.

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