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Zithers
01/05/23 5:03:43 PM
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Scorsese was presenting the New York Film Critics Circle award for Best Picture to Todd Field for his film, Tar, starring Cate Blanchett as a famous composer/conductor:

For so long now, so many of us see films that pretty much let us know where theyre going. I mean, they take us by the hand, and even if its disturbing at times, sort of comfort us along the way that it will be all OK by the end, Scorsese said. Now this is insidious, as one can get lulled into this, and ultimately get used to it. Leading those of us whove experienced cinema in the past as much more than that to become despairing of the future of the art form, especially for younger generations.

He continued, But thats on dark days. The clouds lifted when I experienced Todds film, TR. What youve done, Todd, is that the very fabric of the movie you created doesnt allow this. All the aspects of cinema and the film that youve used, attest to this. The shift in locations, for example, the shift in locations alone do what cinema does best, which is to reduce space and time to what they are, which is nothing.

You make it so that we exist in her head. We experience only through her perception. The world is her. Time, chronology and space, become the music that she lives by. And we dont know where the films going. We just follow the character on her strange, upsetting road to her even stranger final destination. Now, what youve done, Todd, its a real high-wire act, as all of this is conveyed through a masterful mise-en-scne, as controlled, precise, dangerous, precipitous angles, and edges geometrically kind of chiseled into a wonderful 2:3:5 aspect ratio of frame compositions.

Finally, Scorsese said, The limits of the frame itself, and the provocation of measured long takes all reflecting the brutal architecture of her soul TRs soul.


do you agree? good movie imo. not sure about cinema's future being saved tho. cate blanchett will probably win another oscar for it. @blue_inigo

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MarcoRubio
01/05/23 5:05:52 PM
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I assume Tar is short for AvaTAR

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itachi15243
01/05/23 5:10:51 PM
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It has a 90 percent on rotten tomatoes I get the feeling that'll change soon though

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coolguyjimmy
01/05/23 5:16:44 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
It has a 90 percent on rotten tomatoes I get the feeling that'll change soon though

92%, I think you'll find: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avatar_the_way_of_water
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rexcrk
01/05/23 5:17:17 PM
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*TR

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Zithers
01/05/23 5:18:17 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
It has a 90 percent on rotten tomatoes I get the feeling that'll change soon though

i kinda doubt it. the movie has been out for months and is likely done receiving any more RT approved reviews

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itachi15243
01/05/23 5:18:55 PM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
92%, I think you'll find: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avatar_the_way_of_water

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tar_2022

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Blue_Inigo
01/05/23 5:32:46 PM
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Tar doesn't sound interesting but then again I didn't think Fabelmans would be from its general premise and it's a goddamn masterpiece

Think I'll go see Megan

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TheSavageDragon
01/05/23 5:59:52 PM
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The man makes great films and I love his work....but how full of it is he?
He dislikes the current franchise driven climate of Hollywood and despite personally enjoying most of those movies as I generally enjoy the source material I can see where he's coming from and agree with him that it's dominating the industry leaving little room for other projects as every studio wants a piece of that pie.
But if you're using such melodramatic language as "the clouds have been lifted for cinema's future" because of a single movie I can only assume that the man hasn't actually watched a movie in over a decade that wasn't MCU and the like.

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Zithers
01/05/23 6:17:48 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
The man makes great films and I love his work....but how full of it is he?
He dislikes the current franchise driven climate of Hollywood and despite personally enjoying most of those movies as I generally enjoy the source material I can see where he's coming from and agree with him that it's dominating the industry leaving little room for other projects as every studio wants a piece of that pie.
But if you're using such melodramatic language as "the clouds have been lifted for cinema's future" because of a single movie I can only assume that the man hasn't actually watched a movie in over a decade that wasn't MCU and the like.

clown post

Blue_Inigo posted...
Tar doesn't sound interesting but then again I didn't think Fabelmans would be from its general premise and it's a goddamn masterpiece

Think I'll go see Megan

megan is gonna be cringe

also its important to remember that watching a movie based on its premise is stupid. have always stuck to this btw. essential thing to understand when exploring the seventh art.

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Gobstoppers12
01/05/23 6:19:37 PM
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I'm bored just reading the description of that movie.

Call me when Quantumania comes out.

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DrizztLink
01/05/23 6:21:18 PM
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Zithers posted...
also its important to remember that watching a movie based on its premise is stupid. have always stuck to this btw. essential thing to understand when exploring the seventh art.
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TheSavageDragon
01/05/23 6:23:33 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
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Gobstoppers12
01/05/23 6:23:42 PM
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Zithers posted...
the seventh art.
Who talks like this

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Zithers
01/05/23 6:33:23 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/2/AABUaRAAED-K.jpg

lots of movies with exciting premises such as "the city/world/universe is going to be destroyed and it must be saved by x y and z people" that are extremely shitty

just a heads up dude you can watch lots of movies with boring premises like dRAmAs and have a great time

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TheSavageDragon
01/05/23 6:41:38 PM
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Zithers posted...
lots of movies with exciting premises such as "the city/world/universe is going to be destroyed and it must be saved by x y and z people" that are extremely shitty

just a heads up dude you can watch lots of movies with boring premises like dRAmAs and have a great time

An exciting or boring premise is something that every single person defines for themselves. I say this as I am about to watch Titane, a body horror drama with something that I deem to be a interesting premise.
Heads up dude, you don't have to watch a movie because someone else wanks over it and deems it "cinema" or "an exploration of the seventh art". You watch what you want to watch and what appeals to you.
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Zithers
01/05/23 6:43:27 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
An exciting or boring premise is something that every single person defines for themselves. I say this as I am about to watch Titane, a body horror drama with something that I deem to be a interesting premise.
Heads up dude, you don't have to watch a movie because someone else wanks over it and deems it "cinema" or "an exploration of the seventh art". You watch what you want to watch and what appeals to you.

very depressing that you have such a narrow view of cinema

seek god immediately

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El_Marsh
01/05/23 6:45:09 PM
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As unfair as it is to the filmmaker, I kind of hope this movie fails financially and the grief causes Scorsese to fuck of permanently.

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TheSavageDragon
01/05/23 6:47:00 PM
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Zithers posted...
very depressing that you have such a narrow view of cinema

seek god immediately

I have found God and his name is Kevin Feige. All praise be to the Feige. Bringer of shirtless men, talking racoons and women in spandex!

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Unknown5uspect
01/05/23 6:50:20 PM
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TC trying his damnedest to sound as pompous as Scorsese in the OP.

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Zithers
01/05/23 6:53:47 PM
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El_Marsh posted...
As unfair as it is to the filmmaker, I kind of hope this movie fails financially and the grief causes Scorsese to fuck of permanently.

it already did fail, as every movie that isn't about explosions and soy reddit quips does

you already won, its ok, no need to be butthurt anymore

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gasgpmo
01/05/23 7:05:32 PM
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El_Marsh posted...
As unfair as it is to the filmmaker, I kind of hope this movie fails financially and the grief causes Scorsese to fuck of permanently.
"I want a completely innocent person to suffer for no reason other than to spite someone else, because they believe Marvel movies are too formulaic."
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IShall_Run_Amok
01/05/23 7:10:21 PM
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Wait until Scorsese sees Marcel The Shells With Shoes On. He'll cum shit and piss at the same time and declare cinema "alright now there is nothing to worry about".

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MabusIncarnate
01/05/23 7:12:18 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm bored just reading the description of that movie.

Call me when Quantumania comes out.
This, and GotG3 will help save cinema this year.

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Zithers
01/05/23 7:12:48 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


it was unexpected!

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Jiek_Fafn
01/05/23 7:14:17 PM
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Idk if I'll like it, but the hype here at least makes me want to check it out

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El_Marsh
01/05/23 7:16:22 PM
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gasgpmo posted...
"I want a completely innocent person to suffer for no reason other than to spite someone else, because they believe Marvel movies are too formulaic."
Yeah, that's it. Couldn't possibly be any other reason for me to dislike Scorsese. Nope.
Never a possibility, eh?

You love him so much, how about you fuck off with him?

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Zikten
01/05/23 7:17:53 PM
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He can fuck off. He is the most pretentious person I've ever heard of.
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Zithers
01/05/23 7:19:17 PM
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clown posts lmao

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Zikten
01/05/23 7:21:41 PM
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Zithers posted...
clown posts lmao
You think anything other than worshiping this man, is a clown post.
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Zithers
01/05/23 7:25:52 PM
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Zikten posted...
You think anything other than worshiping this man, is a clown post.

wrong

also - clown post

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Zikten
01/05/23 7:29:05 PM
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Zithers posted...
wrong

also - clown post
Its not wrong. Post 9 said they love him and admire his work but they also like normal movies, amd you called him a clown. Anyone who isn't 100% all in on your director is a clown to you. Even when they admire him.
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Zithers
01/05/23 7:48:18 PM
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Zikten posted...
Its not wrong. Post 9 said they love him and admire his work but they also like normal movies, amd you called him a clown. Anyone who isn't 100% all in on your director is a clown to you. Even when they admire him.

nope. learn to read.

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Zikten
01/05/23 7:49:23 PM
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Zithers posted...
nope. learn to read.
I did

You said "clown post "
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gasgpmo
01/05/23 7:51:23 PM
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El_Marsh posted...
Yeah, that's it. Couldn't possibly be any other reason for me to dislike Scorsese. Nope.
Never a possibility, eh?

You love him so much, how about you fuck off with him?
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Prestoff
01/05/23 7:51:26 PM
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It looks like an artsy fartsy kind of movie, but if a movie is good it's good. I'll definately watch it seeing as how badly it's doing at the BO.

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TheSavageDragon
01/05/23 7:52:10 PM
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Yeah, learn to read, Zikten. You clown. How dare you understand exactly what I was saying? Tsh, call the clown car, time to go back to clown college!
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Zikten
01/05/23 7:54:24 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
Yeah, learn to read, Zikten. You clown. How dare you understand exactly what I was saying? Tsh, call the clown car, time to go back to clown college!
I'm not going to enroll in that clown college. That advertisement had no effect on me whatsoever
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bsp77
01/05/23 7:58:36 PM
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It was a great movie with a superb performance. The movie also made me think.

It might be over 2.5 hours, but it is never boring.

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Zithers
01/05/23 8:28:53 PM
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Zikten posted...
I did

You said "clown post "

i was talking about his post fwiw

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TheSavageDragon
01/05/23 8:54:05 PM
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Zithers posted...
i was talking about his post fwiw

He knows. He's very obviously fucking with you, oh enlightened one.
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Blue_Inigo
01/05/23 8:59:31 PM
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El_Marsh posted...
As unfair as it is to the filmmaker, I kind of hope this movie fails financially and the grief causes Scorsese to fuck of permanently.
All Martin wants is good and diverse films. He's trying to help you

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MelbuFrahma4
01/05/23 9:08:02 PM
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I saw it. It will likely get nominated for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay, and Best Actress at the Oscars. Good for Scorsese bringing attention to it.

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DrizztLink
01/05/23 9:28:19 PM
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Zikten posted...
I'm not going to enroll in that clown college. That advertisement had no effect on me whatsoever
Is it because you already enrolled in the competing clown college?

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TheSavageDragon
01/05/23 9:29:45 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Is it because you already enrolled in the competing clown college?

Yeah, we're study buddies. Tomorrow's Flower Squirting 101.
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Zikten
01/05/23 9:30:01 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Is it because you already enrolled in the competing clown college?
That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough! I'm going to clown college!
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GeneralKenobi85
01/05/23 9:32:45 PM
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Sounds like an interesting movie, but obviously Scorsese and TC are both being melodramatic regarding current cinema.

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Zithers
01/05/23 10:20:21 PM
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enjoying the clown college reddit banter guys, keep it up, you'll be writing for the mcu in no time

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Blue_Inigo
01/05/23 10:27:39 PM
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Scorsese should write a blog to let us know his movie reccs

Tar is already out of theaters basically

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