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Tora_Sami
01/07/23 6:36:05 PM
#101:


_____Cait posted...
Does anyone actually still really care about Scooby Doo?

It was one of those shows that was just always on tv. Never actually met anyone who was a fan. The merchandise was driven by grandma buying birthday or Christmas presents. You never see kids talking about Scooby Doo, and adults only talk about it in jest or parody.

This series is a relic and this show wasnt going to do anything to help. Nobody cares about this franchise enough to watch a spinoff about a character people only like because of some weird online fetish.

If they wanted this to work, they should have just made it a straight up parody, meta, or just gritty Scooby Doo. Why this

What fuckin world do you live in!?

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EightySixTwoTwo
01/07/23 6:38:21 PM
#102:


McMarbles posted...
Shes brown now and racist nerds cant wank to her.

People wank while watching the Scooby-Doo cartoon? What the F is wrong with humanity???
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Revelation34
01/07/23 11:00:11 PM
#103:


yusiko posted...


Except all of the times that's not the case like captain marvel or last of us 2 where poor assholes online still complain and insist that captain marvel was only a success because disney bought all their own tickets and really no one watched it


Has anybody really made that much money by being anti-woke?

_____Cait posted...
Does anyone actually still really care about Scooby Doo?

It was one of those shows that was just always on tv. Never actually met anyone who was a fan. The merchandise was driven by grandma buying birthday or Christmas presents. You never see kids talking about Scooby Doo, and adults only talk about it in jest or parody.

This series is a relic and this show wasnt going to do anything to help. Nobody cares about this franchise enough to watch a spinoff about a character people only like because of some weird online fetish.

If they wanted this to work, they should have just made it a straight up parody, meta, or just gritty Scooby Doo. Why this


All the shows I have seen were great.

Foppe posted...

In the last 25 years, they have released 38 animated movies and 5 live action movies, 6 plays, 6 TV series, and another TV series is in the works, why do that if nobody watches them?


How the hell would a play work for a series like Scooby Doo?

EightySixTwoTwo posted...


People wank while watching the Scooby-Doo cartoon? What the F is wrong with humanity???


People wank to animated ponies so this isn't that surprising.

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cjsdowg
01/07/23 11:09:37 PM
#104:


Revelation34 posted...


Has anybody really made that much money by being anti-woke?

Tate, the Pauls, the Quartering, The Republican Party.

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Foppe
01/08/23 1:24:00 AM
#105:


Revelation34 posted...
How the hell would a play work for a series like Scooby Doo?
They solve mysteries on stage?
People paid enough for them to make 6 of them.

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Foppe
01/08/23 1:27:23 AM
#106:


FatAnimeBooty posted...
Why'd they make Shaggy black?
Because he got a black voice actor.

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ClockworkHare
01/10/23 7:13:05 PM
#107:


Okay simple question: who was this show for? What were the targeted demographics?

Honest answers are going to come up with a viewer sum that is not enough to justifiably sustain it's budget.

People who LOVE Scooby Doo shows are not watching this.
People who HATE Scooby Doo content have better shows to watch.

Who's left? Mindy Kaling fans...?
Again, not enough of a sum to sustain investment.

Anybody who thought this show would find a strong fanbase was deluding themselves. It was doomed by concept.

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MarcyWarcy
01/10/23 7:16:53 PM
#108:


ClockworkHare posted...
Okay simple question: who was this show for? What was the aimed demographic?

i think the target demographic was probably "extremely online millennial liberals" but even in those circles I haven't really seen a lot of interest in it. At best there's a half-hearted "I'll watch this because it makes chuds mad" which doesn't translate to sustained interest generally, and at worst its getting people that are really sick of corporate pandering.
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COVxy
01/10/23 7:17:11 PM
#109:


Revelation34 posted...
Has anybody really made that much money by being anti-woke?

Lmaoo. The only reason, and I mean the only reason, anti-woke is a thing is because it has been financially and politically beneficial.

Streamers have made fortunes just repeatedly banging on this drum. They do not believe the shit they say. They just know that the right-wing contingency of youtube watching knobs will eat that shit up.

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Questionmarktarius
01/10/23 7:36:36 PM
#110:


Revelation34 posted...
Has anybody really made that much money by being anti-woke?
Beavis and Butthead, South Park
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epik_fail1
01/10/23 7:49:35 PM
#111:


Wouldn't adding a new person of color to the cast be better than race swapping existing character? I don't even mind Velma and Shaggy being voiced by PoC, but making classic characters in a cartoon look like their VA is an odd decision.

Also I absolutely hate the art style

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s0nicfan
01/10/23 7:50:48 PM
#112:


epik_fail1 posted...
Wouldn't adding a new person of color to the cast be better than race swapping existing character? I don't even mind Velma and Shaggy being voiced by PoC, but making classic characters in a cartoon look like their VA is an odd decision.

Also I absolutely hate the art style

The black guy IS a new character so they didn't have to race swap him. Norville, IIRC.

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Questionmarktarius
01/10/23 7:51:05 PM
#113:


epik_fail1 posted...
Wouldn't adding a new person of color to the cast be better than race swapping existing character?
I dunno. Terry Crews as Scoob could have been pretty great.
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epik_fail1
01/10/23 7:53:02 PM
#114:


s0nicfan posted...
The black guy IS a new character so they didn't have to race swap him. Norville, IIRC.

It's not shaggy? Shaggy is not there???

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MrMelodramatic
01/10/23 7:53:17 PM
#115:


Huge misstep by Mindy. Isnt she also the show runner for Sex Life of College Girls? Thats actually a funny and good show; she should stick to things like that and The Office

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MarcyWarcy
01/10/23 7:54:44 PM
#116:


norville is shaggys real name so i dont think its a new character unless i missed a part of it
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Mistere_Man
01/10/23 7:55:04 PM
#117:


epik_fail1 posted...
It's not shaggy? Shaggy is not there???
Shaggy is a nickname, his first name has always been Norville I believe.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mtsR4BySEkg?feature=share

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EbonTitanium
01/10/23 7:56:47 PM
#118:


s0nicfan posted...
The black guy IS a new character so they didn't have to race swap him. Norville, IIRC.
You did know that Norville is Shaggys real name?

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Kafkaf
01/10/23 7:59:34 PM
#119:


Type '1' if you cancelled Hbomax long before the show aired.

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hockeybub89
01/10/23 8:00:32 PM
#120:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
The next time they do Scooby-Doo without scooby-doo, all the characters should act like Scooby-Doo is there, and when they talk to him, the camera pans over to where he should be standing but there's nobody there and nobody says anything. They should just do the whole show like that.
Now I need a Garfield without Garfield show

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Questionmarktarius
01/10/23 8:01:19 PM
#121:


Kafkaf posted...
Type '1' if you cancelled Hbomax long before the show aired.
what's the "never bothered" option?
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Kafkaf
01/10/23 8:01:37 PM
#122:


Questionmarktarius posted...

what's the "never bothered" option?

2

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TheGoldenEel
01/10/23 8:03:02 PM
#123:


ClockworkHare posted...
Who's left? Mindy Kaling fans...?
Again, not enough of a sum to sustain investment.
Mindy has two popular shows going right now friend

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Heavy_D_Forever
01/10/23 8:05:15 PM
#124:


TheGoldenEel posted...
Mindy has two popular shows going right now friend
This Velma show certainly won't be her third. The show looks like shit and critics are trashing it. This was a dumb idea from the start.

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ViewtifulGrave
01/10/23 8:05:45 PM
#125:


hockeybub89 posted...
Now I need a Garfield without Garfield show
Garfield minus Garfield?

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Kim_Seong-a
01/10/23 8:09:22 PM
#126:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Garfield minus Garfield?

This would unironically be a perfect "Adult Swim at 2AM" kind of show

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SpiritSephiroth
01/10/23 8:09:40 PM
#127:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/5/AAR0xcAAEE5H.jpg

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s0nicfan
01/10/23 8:24:29 PM
#128:


EbonTitanium posted...
You did know that Norville is Shaggys real name?

No, I didn't.

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MrMelodramatic
01/10/23 8:31:44 PM
#129:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Garfield minus Garfield?
http://garfieldminusgarfield.reddit.com

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darkbuster
01/10/23 8:38:45 PM
#130:


The Scooby show that dropped Scooby, failed? No one should be surprised with this, but it won't stop the claims of racism & misogyny.

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Revelation34
01/10/23 11:23:12 PM
#131:


COVxy posted...


Lmaoo. The only reason, and I mean the only reason, anti-woke is a thing is because it has been financially and politically beneficial.

Streamers have made fortunes just repeatedly banging on this drum. They do not believe the shit they say. They just know that the right-wing contingency of youtube watching knobs will eat that shit up.


So they're all multi millionaires?

hockeybub89 posted...

Now I need a Garfield without Garfield show


https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/

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ShaniaSingsling
01/10/23 11:24:29 PM
#132:


this is the laziest attempt at inclusion ive ever seen

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dioxxys
01/10/23 11:35:36 PM
#133:


https://youtu.be/Mgmh0sXzzMs
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Turtlebread
01/10/23 11:36:53 PM
#134:


Velma is black

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dioxxys
01/10/23 11:42:09 PM
#135:


People need to stop the crazy assumptions that when people don't like race swapping that people are racist or misogynist.

Over a decade ago people used to get mad when characters were whitewashed and I agreed with them but now we don't see that same support now that characters are black washed.

People can dislike a movie/show for the smallest of reasons, I don't like the Harry Potter movies because for example, Neville longbottom gives Harry the gillyweed instead of Dobby.
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s0nicfan
01/10/23 11:42:53 PM
#136:


Turtlebread posted...
Velma is black

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/0/3/AABJX0AAEFAv.jpg

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Kakapo
01/10/23 11:43:30 PM
#137:


Ruh roh

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Doom_Art
01/10/23 11:44:04 PM
#138:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Who was asking for this?

Super_Slash posted...
Literally no one asked for this
This is always some of the most useless, banal forms of media criticism

That said, the show looked stupid so w.e.

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MetroidGamer666
01/10/23 11:54:02 PM
#139:


Its awful
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ssjevot
01/11/23 12:07:57 AM
#140:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I would be surprised if even 1000 fans of this show actually read the old comics. Nobody cares about the original material.

I like the show and read the old comics (as well as watched the old show and the old movies).

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Smashingpmkns
01/11/23 2:59:10 AM
#141:


Entertainment Weekly did not hold back lol

https://ew.com/tv/tv-reviews/velma-review-scooby-doo-hbo-max/

At Crystal Cove High School, Daphne (Constance Wu) is a popular mean girl orphan who deals drugs because of a dark family secret. Her boyfriend Fred (Glenn Howerton) personifies mediocre white richness. His mansion holds a dark secret and he has teeny widdle privates, a subject of much conversation. "Shaggy" has become Norville (Sam Richardson), a school-newspaper striver friendzoned by his beloved Velma. He worries he's a beta male; remember that lame humor concept from 20 years ago?

This sounds so dated and childish.

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divot1338
01/11/23 3:19:07 AM
#142:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/3/4/AAXm8_AAD1Ge.jpg

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Foppe
01/11/23 3:42:15 AM
#143:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Entertainment Weekly did not hold back lol

https://ew.com/tv/tv-reviews/velma-review-scooby-doo-hbo-max/

At Crystal Cove High School, Daphne (Constance Wu) is a popular mean girl orphan who deals drugs because of a dark family secret. Her boyfriend Fred (Glenn Howerton) personifies mediocre white richness. His mansion holds a dark secret and he has teeny widdle privates, a subject of much conversation. "Shaggy" has become Norville (Sam Richardson), a school-newspaper striver friendzoned by his beloved Velma. He worries he's a beta male; remember that lame humor concept from 20 years ago?
There is more.
Daphne is adopted by a lesbian couple and she might or might not have feelings for Velma.
Shaggy spends most of his time trying to make Velma fall in love with him.
Velma got a crush on Fred, and she judge everybody by how they look.

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Zero_Destroyer
01/11/23 3:45:04 AM
#144:


zoinks scoog

didn't read the thread btw

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xlr_big-coop
01/11/23 3:47:08 AM
#145:


Foppe posted...
There is more.
Daphne is adopted by a lesbian couple and she might or might not have feelings for Velma.
Shaggy spends most of his time trying to make Velma fall in love with him.
Velma got a crush on Fred, and she judge everybody by how they look.
So what's with out of touch companies trying to destroy properties? Resident evil, Witcher, halo and now Scooby Doo. All victims to egos and changes literally nobody asked for.

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Prestoff
01/11/23 3:56:06 AM
#146:


Foppe posted...
There is more.
Daphne is adopted by a lesbian couple and she might or might not have feelings for Velma.
Shaggy spends most of his time trying to make Velma fall in love with him.
Velma got a crush on Fred, and she judge everybody by how they look.

Well at least there's The Last of Us to watch on HBO Max.

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pokedude900
01/11/23 4:16:35 AM
#147:


I know nearly every Scooby-Doo entry is a separate continuity, but aren't there multiple series that firmly establish that Scooby has been with the the group (or at the very least Shaggy) since childhood?

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Foppe
01/11/23 4:26:11 AM
#148:


pokedude900 posted...
I know nearly every Scooby-Doo entry is a separate continuity, but aren't there multiple series that firmly establish that Scooby has been with the the group (or at the very least Shaggy) since childhood?
It goes both ways.
In A Pup Named Scooby Doo, he is with them as a kid.
In Scoobo Does Hollywood, the gang remembers when they got him, and they looked the same so they were at least late teenagers then.
That said, a Great Dane only lives 8-10 years...

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pokedude900
01/11/23 4:31:00 AM
#149:


Foppe posted...
In A Pup Named Scooby Doo, he is with them as a kid.

Plus What's New Scooby-Doo? having a flashback to when they were kids and even using the A Pup Named Scooby-Doo character designs.

Foppe posted...
In Scoobo Does Hollywood, the gang remembers when they got him, and they looked the same so they were at least late teenagers then.

I do vaguely remember that one. But late teens would still be before when this series is supposed to take place, wouldn't it?

And we can excuse Scooby's age problem since it's a cartoon about a talking dog.

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Smashingpmkns
01/11/23 4:31:47 AM
#150:


Tbh it seems like Kaling had a bad idea for a show that she really wanted to get made and had to tie it to an existing IP in order for it to get greenlit. Also seems very weird that it's taking pot shots at Harley Quinn. Just seems like a mean spirited dud in many aspects.

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