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MelbuFrahma4
01/07/23 9:15:12 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/07/andrew-tate-misogyny-schools-vulnerable-boys

When Abbie Marsh overheard a 15-year-old boy in the West Midlands school she works in praising Andrew Tate, the social influencer known as the king of misogyny, she asked him if he understood Tates views on women. The boy replied: Well, men are better than women, so hes right. His friends all nodded in agreement. Marsh reported the conversation to her schools head of safeguarding. She says misogyny is rife, even among students as young as 12, and is convinced Tates videos are fuelling it. I heard one student in the playground introduce his girlfriend and as soon as she was out of earshot he was asked by several friends if they could have a go with her, she says. I dont think the staff are fully aware who Tate is and what he stands for, she adds. I worry for these boys girlfriends. While the spotlight has switched to his activities in eastern Europe, schools in the UK are fearful Tates boosted media profile in the last few weeks could make his influence stronger than ever. Many parents may be hearing about Tate for the first time, but schools across the country say he is already a hugely familiar figure to many of their pupils. Many are giving teachers training on how to talk to students about him. Some are holding special assemblies, or using personal social and health education lessons to encourage students to question the content he puts out. Teachers say boys are often sucked into his glamorous ultra-macho world by more benign content on fast cars or fitness.

But in his videos he also says women are a mans property, cannot do jobs as well as men, and belong at home. He thinks rape victims should bear responsibility for their attacks and boasts about seeking out 18-year-old girls because they are fresh. Michael Conway, whose company Men at Work trains school staff on talking to boys about these issues, says: Algorithms make it possible for someone like Tate to be hugely well known to 14- to 18-year-old boys Conway has run sessions in 50 schools on online misogyny. Teachers have raised Tates influence in every one. One teacher talked about a lesson on sexual consent in which a boy quoted Tate, saying if a woman went out alone at night and was attacked it was her fault. Conway says teenagers also mention Tate as a form of micro-aggression towards female teachers. In one session Conway discussed the sexist meme make me a sandwich, used by some men on social media to belittle women. A female teacher said: Ive got a lad in year 10 who always writes MMAS at the bottom of my homework, he says. She hadnt known what it meant until then. But he was trying to humiliate her. Conway believes Tate is grooming young men in a similar way to terrorist groups or gangs, and his image of conspicuous success woos boys desperate for a connection.

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Solution_45
01/07/23 9:15:58 PM
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Irony
01/07/23 9:16:25 PM
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Expel them all

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MelbuFrahma4
01/07/23 10:11:41 PM
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Irony posted...
Expel them all

Yea. The make me a sandwich kid needs to be kicked out of school. It is scary Tate brainwashed a generation and this article is giving us what they are saying.

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SHRlKE
01/07/23 10:13:37 PM
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MelbuFrahma4 posted...
Yea. The make me a sandwich kid needs to be kicked out of school. It is scary Tate brainwashed a generation and this article is giving us what they are saying.

The kids are as much a victim here as anyone. Theyve essentially been indoctrinated.
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Michael_Booth
01/07/23 10:13:39 PM
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MelbuFrahma4 posted...
Yea. The make me a sandwich kid needs to be kicked out of school. It is scary Tate brainwashed a generation and this article is giving us what they are saying.

Not just expelled. That's hate speech, should get at least 5-10 years in prison.
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Zikten
01/07/23 10:14:47 PM
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Solution_45 posted...
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Shut the fuck up

And all these kids should take a lesson from Tate's final fate .
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Nasty_Nitro
01/07/23 10:15:21 PM
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Im not surprised but very sad.

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sutree
01/07/23 10:19:20 PM
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social media was a mistake

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tehzeldafanboy
01/07/23 10:21:15 PM
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THIS IS NOT DEFENDING PEOPLE BEING ASSHOLES JUST EXPLAINING IT.

In a lot of ways we are failing boys and young men. Letting them be easily preyed on by the Tates of the world. Note this doesn't mean that young men who fall for this should get away with being jerks, they made that choice themselves. However when I worked in the system. I saw some many young people who could have been something if the right person was there to say do better and I will help you. And I see the same type of thing here.

Yeah, this. The left is gonna realize too late that they should have reached out to young men instead of calling them shitlords all that time. Things could have been different

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cjsdowg
01/07/23 10:22:05 PM
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Made a post before but I am redoing it make it clearer.

When I was a CO. I saw a lot of young people get put behind bars because they were members of gangs and things of that nature. And I see the same pattern here. Young men looking for something, belonging, people who care about them. And just like the misguided people who fall into gangs. These kids are falling into whatever Tate is selling them. And so when I say this is not to excuse their actions. They are looking up to a who we now know might be a rapist, and before that was shady even in the his best light. But there needs to be outright for people before they get this lost. Because once the Tates,the Pauls and whomever else gets them. It is just down hill.

tehzeldafanboy posted... Yeah, this. The left is gonna realize too late that they should have reached out to young men instead of calling them shitlords all that time. Things could have been different

You make a great point, I am on the left. And I really see lefties failing here.

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tehzeldafanboy
01/07/23 10:25:29 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I a post redoing it make it clearer.

When I was a CO. I saw a lot of young people get put behind bars because they were members of gangs and things of that nature. And I see the same pattern here. Young men looking for something, belonging, people who care about them. And just like the misguided people who fall into gangs. These kids are falling into whatever Tate is selling them. And so when I say this is not to excuse their actions. They are looking up to a who we now know might be a rapist, and before that was shady even in the his best light. But there needs to be outright for people before they get this lost. Because once the Tates,the Pauls and whomever else gets them. It is just down hill.
Yeah it's a tricky thing because it's a different type of purpose/community that men want, the left doesn't really understand this as well as the right does. You can't even reach them with the left's values because they've thoroughly rejected masculinity as a concept so that only leaves the right to do it. Their goose is cooked

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Glob
01/07/23 10:27:06 PM
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tehzeldafanboy posted...
THIS IS NOT DEFENDING PEOPLE BEING ASSHOLES JUST EXPLAINING IT.

In a lot of ways we are failing boys and young men. Letting them be easily preyed on by the Tates of the world. Note this doesn't mean that young men who fall for this should get away with being jerks, they made that choice themselves. However when I worked in the system. I saw some many young people who could have been something if the right person was there to say do better and I will help you. And I see the same type of thing here.

Yeah, this. The left is gonna realize too late that they should have reached out to young men instead of calling them shitlords all that time. Things could have been different

Fuck off out of here with that tribal bullshit. Plenty of people who are left leaning recognise that these problems exist because of disenfranchised young people who should receive more support.
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gunplagirl
01/07/23 10:27:31 PM
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The boys in this article are already wastes of human lives. All they'll accomplish is hurting others. Best to consider them failures and handle them appropriately before they hurt someone.

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SpiritSephiroth
01/07/23 10:30:01 PM
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The shit kids did in my school when I was younger makes this look like nothing >_>

Guess schools changed over the years for the better if kids are actually behaving themselves now.

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tehzeldafanboy
01/07/23 10:30:28 PM
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Glob posted...
Fuck off out of here with that tribal bullshit. Plenty of people who are left leaning recognise that these problems exist because of disenfranchised young people who should receive more support.
t. guy who says bad shit about republicans daily

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Zikten
01/07/23 10:31:52 PM
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The boys who asked to gangbang their friends girlfriend, should probably be monitored very closely before they end up raping someone
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tehzeldafanboy
01/07/23 10:32:57 PM
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Keep it up, you're making more of them. lol

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Glob
01/07/23 10:33:12 PM
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tehzeldafanboy posted...
t. guy who says bad shit about republicans daily

I dont understand.

Are you claiming that I do that? Because I dont.
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Ratchetrockon
01/07/23 10:34:53 PM
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I was a redpill zealot from 16 to 22 years old. I was originally indoctrined from the bb misc forum when I lurked it in 2012 which led me to browsing those redpill forums and soaking up their ideas. I ended up being abusive to an ex gf because of my beliefs so i dont consider myself a victim.
It is was difficult for me to break out of that mindset but it is possible.


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tehzeldafanboy
01/07/23 10:38:54 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
I ended up being abusive to an ex gf
How so?

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Nasty_Nitro
01/07/23 10:38:59 PM
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Score one in the points column for Child Free HomiesI would be so disappointed if my son was a lame ass cornball

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Fony
01/07/23 10:45:42 PM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
Score one in the points column for Child Free HomiesI would be so disappointed if my son was a lame ass cornball

Theyd be your son after all.

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SpiritSephiroth
01/07/23 10:46:17 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
The boys in this article are already wastes of human lives. All they'll accomplish is hurting others. Best to consider them failures and handle them appropriately before they hurt someone.

I just get sad when I read stuff like this :/

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Zikten
01/07/23 10:54:21 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Sit them down and tell them that their god is in prison for rape and slavery. Then tell them this will happen to them too, if they don't wise the fuck up
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Nasty_Nitro
01/07/23 10:59:25 PM
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Zikten posted...
Sit them down and tell them that their god is in prison for rape and slavery. Then tell them this will happen to them too, if they don't wise the fuck up

They believe its The agent of the matrix because these people live in a made up fantasy world.


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Vicious_Dios
01/07/23 11:00:27 PM
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gunplagirl posted...


That was such a post. Is that user for real? 'Wastes of life', 'Handle them'...

Sheeeesh!

Who in their right state of mind even talks like that?

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Ratchetrockon
01/07/23 11:01:33 PM
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tehzeldafanboy posted...
How so?
I didn't see women as real people for a time. I guess it helped that I just saw them as preprogrammed entities with the same settings and not their own individual person.

So it helped me justify my actions towards my ex gf. I knew she was pretty obsessed with me so I took advantage of that often over like a 3 year period. Lets just say that i made her cry a lot from my actions and I didn't care at the time. Was a very 1 sided relationship between us. For example I don't think I ever created anything for her while she'd make me art and all that to show her love.. I didnt even want to hang out with her outside of having sex. The last thing I did that truly shattered our relationship is when I cheated on her and told her about it. I didn't realize it was a bad move at the time and thought she'd be able to handle it emotionally.

I'm a changed person nowadays so I wouldn't do that stuff again


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cjsdowg
01/07/23 11:08:37 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
I'm a changed person nowadays so I wouldn't do that stuff again

Can I ask why would she date you, in the first place if you were so mean to her ?

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Guns_of_Verdun
01/07/23 11:11:15 PM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
Im not surprised but very sad.


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yusiko
01/07/23 11:12:28 PM
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welll fixing actual issues in ones life takes work, self reflection and patience which is what the left teaches but that is hard to do
its much easier to just create an enemy to blame
andrew tate convinces teenage boys to hate women and men who dont fit into a box of tates idea of masculinity.
and they eat that shit up because it gives them people to blame and direct their anger towards

so its not like these people are speaking to these boys at a real level that resonates with them. they spout basic self help advice you can find in any library self help section. they just manipulate young men by promising easy answers to things that dont have them.

the boys are wrong for buying into it but they are ultimately victims of andrew tate
this will have far reaching consequences of their mental development emotionally stunting them in their adult years and preventing them from forming meaningful relationships with other people

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Ratchetrockon
01/07/23 11:12:40 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Can I ask why would she date you, in the first place if you were so mean to her ?

I was nice the first year or so

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IShall_Run_Amok
01/07/23 11:18:10 PM
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The kids are just pigs in the making, and they'll be pigs for sure unless they're taken aside and worked into people again.

Needless to say, everything Andrew Tate has built should be forcibly and cruelly removed from him, and he should be denied any and all defense of himself and his person in the process.

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tehzeldafanboy
01/07/23 11:54:18 PM
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That's not what I've seen. Just "shitlord shitlord white privilege shitlord"

It's a testament to how much more tantalizing left-wing ideas are that any leftist white men even exist

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tehzeldafanboy
01/08/23 12:01:33 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Gaslighting me? Really? Lol
You're not gonna convince me my eyes are lying and you're telling me the truth. I encourage you to continue trying tho

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Medussa
01/08/23 12:02:17 AM
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Whose alt is this?

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IShall_Run_Amok
01/08/23 12:07:08 AM
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Does this dude think only non-white people call these guys "shitlord"?

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tehzeldafanboy
01/08/23 12:09:27 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I'm not interested in what you do though. You're one person

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So Andrew Tate etc. aren't a problem then?

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Yeah see this is what I'm talking about. It's a positive message in a superficial way, but that doesn't make it a potent one. A lot of young men see that shit as a joke, and Andrew Tate is there to to take the reins from there

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Alucard188
01/08/23 12:10:50 AM
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Mother fucker made MGTOW mainstream.

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