Current Events > Idea: Why don't we just restrict the Federal Gov't to taking Sales tax?

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GreenCookie
01/13/23 4:34:02 PM
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This way poorer people who are saving don't have to pay as much taxes unless they're living outside their means.

Stupid or nah?

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_BlueMonk
01/13/23 4:34:34 PM
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GreenCookie posted...
Stupid


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GreenCookie
01/13/23 4:42:54 PM
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Why though?

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Prismsblade
01/13/23 4:43:37 PM
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They barely earned or brought anything to tax in the first place. So their standard of living will nosedive without benefits.

The middle and high class though would probabaly benefit from it immensely.

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Turtlemayor333
01/13/23 4:50:22 PM
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Sales taxes should literally be eliminated. They punish poor people, punish economic activity, and have few exceptions even when the items are essential. They're also annoying from a psychological standpoint, like you can't easily buy anything with an exact amount of cash.

Taxes should be based on income and assets, period. Rich Republicans hate this.

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Giant_Aspirin
01/13/23 4:55:37 PM
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consumption taxes are heavily skewed towards disproportionately affecting the poor. this is why Republicans want to replace income tax with consumption tax.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/who-bears-burden-national-retail-sales-tax

Because lower-income households spend a greater share of their income than higher-income households do, the burden of a retail sales tax is regressive when measured as a share of current income: the tax burden as a share of income is highest for low-income households and falls sharply as household income rises. The burden of a sales tax is more proportional to income when measured as a share of income over a lifetime. Even by a lifetime income measure, however, the burden of a sales tax as a share of income is lower for high-income households than for other households: a sales tax (like any consumption tax) does not tax the returns (such as dividends and capital gains) from new capital investment and income from capital makes up a larger portion of the total income of high-income households.

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DarthDemented
01/13/23 4:57:28 PM
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Even if it was put in place the sales tax would just be horribly skewed higher.

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emblem-man
01/13/23 4:59:37 PM
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GreenCookie posted...
This way poorer people who are saving don't have to pay as much taxes unless they're living outside their means.

Stupid or nah?

Poorer people already pay little to none federal income taxes. So removing federal income taxes, and forcing them to pay a consumption tax, would increase their costs.

Unless you give some kind of monthly rebate to the poor to offset the increased hardship.

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RlP
01/13/23 5:19:42 PM
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Stupid idea because ignoring all rich vs poor people debate. USA tipping culture would exponentially worsen the problem for everyone since everyone expects at least 20% tip and tip is 99% of the time computed after taxes and fees.

Imagine:
$10 burger
$1 supplemental income fee
$1 sales tax
$2 federal tax

Subtotal $14
Tip options:
18%, 20%, 25% fuck places with high default options

Total: $16.8


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