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I could never work out if Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a recluse or not

alphagamble posted...

I could never work out if Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a recluse or not

Like everything else, it depends on the writer. Sometimes he's a weird, grim, recluse. Sometimes he's a typical rich guy who goes to parties and bangs supermodels.

Didnt Dick Grayson work as a normal cop in Bldhaven?

I think I prefer recluse Batman. There's no way he'd have time to be a playboy.

alphagamble posted...

I could never work out if Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a recluse or not

It is always a little different.

In the one's where is a "recluse" normally he is a millionaire play boy that shows up from time to time. But no one really knows about it him. He is like if Howard Huges, spent nights out on the town every other month. Then you don't hear from him for weeks. So he is called but that he wouldn't really fit the bill

Anywho I hate that version of Bruce. The Bruce where he is an active member of his community is the best.

Chadwick69 posted...

I think I prefer recluse Batman. There's no way he'd have time to be a playboy.

It fits more with his character too. Sure, he'd want to keep up some appearences to protect his secret identity, but Batman never seemed like the type who'd go out to parties and dating supermodels. It would be time wasted he could use fighting crime.

alphagamble posted...

I could never work out if Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a recluse or not

I feel like he could never realistically be a recluse. His parents were prominent members of society that were murdered in front of him when he was a kid, he mysteriously disappeared for several years when he was an adult, and when he showed back up, he immediately became Gotham's premium fuck boy. Then he adopts a circus orphan, a street child that later dies in a terrorist attack, the heir of a rivaling company, and possibly a mute Asian girl. Then he has an actual blood-son show up out of nowhere.

Even if he tried to avoid the spotlight, the press would be so far up his ass that Superman wouldn't be able to see them.

Chadwick69 posted...

I think I prefer recluse Batman. There's no way he'd have time to be a playboy.

I think he's supposed to be both. Like when he does make an appearance in Gotham he's a playboy. When he's being a recluse it's assumed he's out of town being a playboy elsewhere like in another country.

Plus it's not like he's facing one of his rogues gallery daily. It's implied he takes down a bunch of regular mooks on a nightly basis which is probably just a few hours work for him. I get by on 4 hours sleep regularly and I'm nowhere near his level.

Southernfatman posted...

but Batman never seemed like the type who'd go out to parties and dating supermodels

Batman? No. Bruce Wayne? Yes.

wow, I read this topic title as Bruce Willis, and didn't understand what the hell in-universe meant

Southernfatman posted...

It fits more with his character too. Sure, he'd want to keep up some appearences to protect his secret identity, but Batman never seemed like the type who'd go out to parties and dating supermodels. It would be time wasted he could use fighting crime.

Bruce Wayne is an act. He does it to avoid suspicion. Like he even drinks fake champagne so he doesn't actually get drunk.

Prismsblade posted...

Batman? No. Bruce Wayne? Yes.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

Bruce Wayne is an act. He does it to avoid suspicion. Like he even drinks fake champagne so he doesn't actually get drunk.

I said Batman because that's who Bruce really is. I was meaning that he doesn't seem the type to waste time putting on appearances as Bruce Wayne when he could be doing crime related stuff. He's dedicated his life towards fighting crime. Of course this all depends on who is writing, but Bats being super hardcore about being Batman seems pretty consistent now in the modern era.

Didnt Bruce lose Waynetech and his money so he got no real reason to play a playboy any longer?

Southernfatman posted...

I said Batman because that's who Bruce really is. I was meaning that he doesn't seem the type to waste time putting on appearances as Bruce Wayne when he could be doing crime related stuff. He's dedicated his life towards fighting crime. Of course this all depends on who is writing, but Bats being super hardcore about being Batman seems pretty consistent now in the modern era.

His mutilbillion dollar company isn't going to run itself, and aside from crime fighting there is alot of good he can do as Bruce Wayne also, arguably more even.

There's also the front that nobody of such character would ever be something like a mask fighter. Let alone batman of them all.

Bruce would absolutely bang supermodels solely to keep up the ruse so he can be Batman.

He might also just give them a lot of money and an NDA to say they slept together which would mean Gotham's modeling community mostly thinks Bruce is super closeted.

The Howard Hughes comparison is probably the best one. He's mysterious and eccentric and can go weeks without anyone ever seeing him. But when he makes an appearance. It's a big, showy deal.

We somehow got to talking about Bruce instead of his kids.

I feel like Dick, at the very least, would go on Good Morning, Gotham.

Southernfatman posted...

I said Batman because that's who Bruce really is. I was meaning that he doesn't seem the type to waste time putting on appearances as Bruce Wayne when he could be doing crime related stuff. He's dedicated his life towards fighting crime. Of course this all depends on who is writing, but Bats being super hardcore about being Batman seems pretty consistent now in the modern era.

As said he's gotta make appearances I'm sure it's not everyday maybe not even every week

Compsognathus posted...

The Howard Hughes comparison is probably the best one. He's mysterious and eccentric and can go weeks without anyone ever seeing him. But when he makes an appearance. It's a big, showy deal.

Pretty much this.

But I aim reminded of a line in the arkham orgins video game " I am the reason criminals breathe easier when the sun comes out"

I think the dark knight showed it well too. He was sleeping at work meetings and people assumed it was cause he was partying all night.

Crime is lower during the day and probably easier for the cops to deal with. And I'm betting Alfred or oracle keeps him posted if something comes up during the day

But on topic I've never gotten the impression hisbkids are famous he seemed as far as ibknow managed to keep the media attention off them and when bugged by the media once grown probably always give the noncomment answer as surely they are mostly questioned about Bruce's private life or what having him as a father was like

Really the idea of Bruce Wayne's level of fame is a carry over from how God damn old of a comic book character he is.

Like the idea of a rich family who basically own and historically are tied to a city to the extent the Wayne's are to Gotham isn't really as much of a thing anymore. The rich famous people of today are global. I guess Bruce Wayne was originally inspired by a Rockefeller or something?

Punished_Blinx posted...

Really the idea of Bruce Wayne's level of fame is a carry over from how God damn old of a comic book character he is.

Like the idea of a rich family who basically own and historically are tied to a city to the extent the Wayne's are to Gotham isn't really as much of a thing anymore. The rich famous people of today are global. I guess Bruce Wayne was originally inspired by a Rockefeller or something?

Nah I think originally it was just a local celebrity kinda thing. His parents where big in town doing great things then they get murdered. Bruce disappears for a long time and re-emerges. Story probably got a little coverage nationwide like a 2 minute segment on the news a small article in the paper but local news it was probably breaking news and front page newspaper material.

^Y'know, I bet that is the case. It started out as them being Gotham socialites with a wealthy company. And as comics do, over the decades it got bigger and bigger, so now WayneTech is half of the American GDP and Bruce Wayne is a world-famous richman.

To answer the actual question, no they aren't famous. IIRC he only has one actual biological kid, and while I haven't read comics lately I know the kid, Damian, was not exactly public knowledge since he was a member of the League of Shadows. Dick Grayson became a cop so not a huge name there either.

Damian wasnt public knowledge simply because Bruce didnt know about him.
He went public with him after Talia dumped Damian on him.

Do the comics ever mention how Bruce spun that story?

Or Jason Todd for that matter? I've seen the idea that Bruce essentially told the truth - Jason was a street kid that stole his tires, he just leaves out that the tires were on the Batmobile - but I don't know if that's just a fan explanation.

When Batman was "killed" by the Omega Beam, Damian basically took control over Waynetech and cleaned up its economy, so it must be some kind of public knowledge.

Wait just one minute. If Jason todd was officially taken in by Bruce/batman like dick Grayson was then... how the hell does he explain away his death? Or does he do the scientology route of pretending he's still alive and healthy and just not appearing in the public eye

Noumas posted...

how the hell does he explain away his death?

This one I actually know. The public story was more-or-less what actually happened: he was searching for his mother in the Middle East when he was killed by terrorists. They just leave out that the Joker was leading them.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/7/AAGadeAAEHxN.jpg

Jason Todd had a grave and a tombstone.
Bruce was noticeable depressed which was explained by Todds death.
The explanation was close to the truth, he was travelling looking for his biological mother when he was killed by an explosion, could have been a suicide bomber.
The question is, how was it explained in public that he is now alive?

They just tell Vicki Vale that they're pretty sure he was revived when Superman Prime punched reality and she's too embarrassed to actually say that, so she says he had amnesia.

Does nobody notice that Bruce Wayne seems to adopt a random new kid every time Batman gets a new kid sidekick?

Background_Guy posted...

Does nobody notice that Bruce Wayne seems to adopt a random new kid every time Batman gets a new kid sidekick?

This is another one that might just be a fan explanation, but Gotham at large probably doesn't know that there have been multiple Robins. They likely don't see him that often and they're all dark-haired kids in bright-ass colors.

At the very least, it would obfuscate just when the transition did happen which would hide the overlap with Bruce Wayne's kids.

pegusus123456 posted...

This is another one that might just be a fan explanation, but Gotham at large probably doesn't know that there have been multiple Robins. They likely don't see him that often and they're all dark-haired kids in bright-ass colors.

At the very least, it would obfuscate just when the transition did happen which would hide the overlap with Bruce Wayne's kids.

That explanation would have made sense before the internet

Background_Guy posted...

That explanation would have made sense before the internet

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Oracle

alphagamble posted...

I could never work out if Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a recluse or not

I think in 95% of his depictions he's represented as a playboy, even when he's reclusive it's not in the sense that he's a brooding loner locked up in his mansion, it's that nobody knows where he is or what he's doing but he's presumed to be out partying.

Apparently others have already said this. This is what I get for not reading the topic.

I thought it was a running theme that the Robin is meant to be the same Robin, similar to how the batman is always the same batman and why they had Dick fill in for Bruce that one time, and why they had superman fill in for Bruce that one time. To keep up appearances.

Edit and maybe that's why he didn't want a blonde girl Robin she was too much of a combo breaker

They must know that there are different Robins, seeing that the first one is a tall man now.
Many goons are recycled by the different villains, so many must realize that they both sound and fight different at a switch.

I imagine the criminals eventually figure it out, but it's not like they're spending a bunch of time with the Robins either. They generally get a few glimpses right before they're punched in the face. And I don't know that they'd automatically know Nightwing used to be Robin either, he starts out in an entirely different city.

I don't know about now, but I think this definitely used to be the case in the older comics. Jason was originally a redhead who dyed his hair black so he'd look more like Dick (this apparently still occasionally shows up in the newer ones). And when Tim met Joker, Joker was pretty pissed off that the dude he killed was still around.

I mean that so much time has passed since Dick was Robin so everybody must wonder if it is even possible for it to only be one Robin.
Some of them were very chatty, and they were fighting different, so people must at least suspect them to be different.
Joker knew that Dick wasnt the real Batman, and he commented on different Robins.

pegusus123456 posted...

I imagine the criminals eventually figure it out, but it's not like they're spending a bunch of time with the Robins either. They generally get a few glimpses right before they're punched in the face. And I don't know that they'd automatically know Nightwing used to be Robin either, he starts out in an entirely different city.

I don't know about now, but I think this definitely used to be the case in the older comics. Jason was originally a redhead who dyed his hair black so he'd look more like Dick (this apparently still occasionally shows up in the newer ones). And when Tim met Joker, Joker was pretty pissed off that the dude he killed was still around.

I know in the arkham games they seem aware he was formerly batmans sidekick as they tend to taunt him with what's he gonna do without batman.

I think it boils down to nobody wants to believe billionaire playboy Bruce is also batman. Most people probably assume he's never been in a real fight that and him playing the playboy people also probably assume he drinks too often to go out fighting crime.

Kinda why I liked the idea that Bruce admitted he was funding batman but claimed he wasn't batman. While it attached his name to batman it was a clever way to keep people thinking he wasn't the batman

There's a tumblr post somewhere that jokes there's a statistics class in Gotham where the professor uses the fact that Batman's most serious injuries happens to line up with times that Bruce Wayne took extended vacations as proof that correlation doesn't equal causation.

pegusus123456 posted...

There's a tumblr post somewhere that jokes there's a statistics class in Gotham where the professor uses the fact that Batman's most serious injuries happens to line up with times that Bruce Wayne took extended vacations as proof that correlation doesn't equal causation.

Ok I definitely want to see that lol, would be perfect if they added it in an actual comic

If Jason became Robin in present times, he would say nigma balls to Riddler at least once.

Its so sad that lex Luther died of nigma