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Thought it was the best one

It was fun and looked good. The story was ass tho.

I enjoyed it but since it was the first one I played, the story wasn't as grasping it should of been. Great graphics and smooth gameplay.

I really liked it, but it being linear and Booker being limited to two weapons at a time made it less fun than the original, IMO.

also, that "ghost" fight sucked ass.

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Has a bad rep online. A lot of the complaints were the difference in the early development stuff and the actual product

Because the story is ass.

the fact there are infinite universes make what we do in the game worthless because there are still infinite universes where bad shit happens. Booker should have just chilled out and enjoyed life.

I might be in the minority, but i thought Burial at Sea was great. Seeing pre fall Rapture and getting all that lore was awesome.

The two-weapon limit is just really terrible. The fact that they retained the weapon upgrades with this system is just asinine.

The vigors aren't very interesting. Of the eight vigors in the game, three of them are basically pallet swapped stuns, one is a standard grenade, one is a shield, and one is only useful for melee. That leaves Possession and Undertow, the former of which is extremely expensive mana-wise until you upgrade it. Undertow is really the only one I remember having fun with.

A lot of attention is given to the sky-hook system and I just did not find it interesting enough to merit that.

But I think the biggest issue for most people is the story. It thinks it's much, much smarter than it actually is.

I really liked Infinite. A lot of the criticism comes from the story being obnoxiously up its own ass with parallel universes.

I revisited and beat Bioshock this last year. And while it was fun, story wasn't bad at all. The gameplay was not as interesting as I remembered.

Next I went to play Infinite. And immediately saw direct story comparisons. And was feeling bored quicky. The gameplay is simpler than Bioshock, and the characters to me were more fantastical. And the whole idea of some of the twists are really interesting. And could of made some very interesting turns. But never did.

Bioshock is like a girl that's committed to you, loves you. But sometimes has the urge to cheat. And does it once, and or twice in your life.

Bioshock Infinite is like a girl. That your aware cheats on their special other. Looks amazing, but also tells you how a relationship with each other could be something special.

SHRlKE posted...

Because the story is ass.

the fact there are infinite universes make what we do in the game worthless because there are still infinite universes where bad shit happens. Booker should have just chilled out and enjoyed life.

No, that's the wrong tact to take. each choice matters in each of the universes, so they aren't worthless. The twins set out to find the universe in which Booker would make the correct choices and not become Comstock. They helped to kill each instance of Comstock so only Booker would remain with his daughter and no gambling debt.

It was a downgrade in terms of gameplay from earlier Bioshock titles. Most of the battle areas were big empty boxes in Infinite. The limits on weapons and their version of Plasmids also felt disappointing.

I loved infinite.

I think most of the criticism came from the fact its a far less ambitious game than the demo showed.

there is a reason some bosses have A LOT of dialogue that doesnt make sense, like the handyman complaining about the gears hurting his flesh

the_pika posted...

there is a reason some bosses have A LOT of dialogue that doesnt make sense, like the handyman complaining about the gears hurting his flesh

I'm not sure that's the best example, it's a dude trapped in a giant mech suit with his heart expose. That line seems pretty self-explanatory. <_<

Gameplay was overly simplistic and the plot stuck its head progressively further up its own ass the longer it went on

Elizabeth is one of the best video game babes of all time.

Bas Elizabeth please step on me while smoking.
Hopefully they retcon her death

I liked it more than the first one

Its one of my favorite games. Really like the world in it.

I think it was just the dlcs people didn't like

The plot literally predicted Trump and his cult

People saw the Vox rise up and they got mad. Sorta like how people got mad that nazis were the bad guys in Wolfenstein or how white supremacists were the bad guys in Far Cry. There's a very vocal subsection of the internet that gets very upset when racists get what's coming to them.

A_Good_Boy posted...

People saw the Vox rise up and they got mad. Sorta like how people got mad that nazis were the bad guys in Wolfenstein or how white supremacists were the bad guys in Far Cry. There's a very vocal subsection of the internet that gets very upset when racists get what's coming to them.

That's the exact opposite complaint I've seen about them. People criticized it for making Daisy and the Vox Populi the bad guys and trying to both-sides the situation.

i liked it
Elizabeth is great.

the only real issue i had was some of the constant universe hopping
especially the one where they're hunting the guns, go "we can't do this thing" and just hop to a universe where it's already taken care of

Any news on the next bioshock game?

Big Bioshock fan here, I've even played System Shock 2, where it gets its inspiration.

While BioShock infinite is the worst of the series it's far from a bad game especially comparing it to the regular AAA trash we get.

Yes the story isn't that great but I didn't find it offensively bad (though I didn't meticulously pull it apart either). The gameplay is the bigger culprit here.

The biggest downfall of the game is the gun gameplay, if this alone had been fixed the game would have been way better. The biggest issue of the gun stems from the two gun limit. Which was a popular format for modern military FPS games. This was bound to piss people off since its prequels had no limit on gun inventory.

The second sin here is the the guns were boring. They were very basic standard FPS guns with no interesting mechanics or fantasy feel to them. We used to get flaming shotgun buck, chem sprayers, laser beams, etc.

People tend to also complain about the vigors the game's replacement for plasmids but I think this is not exactly the best criticism. While yes there was a lot less diversity and crazy powers, the powers we did get had some interesting synergies.

You could use the bull vigor to close the distance and go for great shotgun kills. You could use the bubble vigor to make enemies float in the sky for easy rifle kills. Possession could be a fun choice if you picked out a powerful enemy. I remember the most powerful combination in the game was using the kraken vigor to use water tentacles to pull a bunch of enemies in and then electrocute them with a different plasmid for an instant kill.

Also the world's while not as amazing as the dark depths of rapture, the skyrails made for a great mobility option. Hopping on and off rails while firing and using gorilla tactics was the only way to beat 1999 mode other than turtleing behind cover. I think hard mode was the optimal choice.

Bad story
Dumbed down gameplay
Enemies are vastly inferior to the ones in the previous games

Irony posted...

Bad story
Dumbed down gameplay
Enemies are vastly inferior to the ones in the previous games

I guess it is true there was nothing like the big daddies and little sisters in this game.
Songbird was pretty dumb and mostly in CS not fight.

WingsOfGood posted...

I guess it is true there was nothing like the big daddies and little sisters in this game.
Songbird was pretty dumb and mostly in CS not fight.

And there were like two Handymen.

And they sucked.

Ken "both sides, Gina Carano did nothing wrong" Levine.

who's the one poster who hated the DLC so much, he stopped posting here?

DAS(?)

WingsOfGood posted...

I guess it is true there was nothing like the big daddies and little sisters in this game.

Or the reverse where you're letting a Little Sister escape and get to litter traps around the area for a wave-defense section. Getting a nice chain of Rivet Traps to go off was fun and rewarding.

Dasubermacht.

WingsOfGood posted...

Any news on the next bioshock game?

Maybe a year or two.

We finally got a trailer at least:
https://youtu.be/pmefiirV0JM

Not strictly Bioshock but watch that trailer and tell me that's not BioShock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxs_YA4PNz8

Haters will face her wrath!

dioxxys posted...

Not strictly Bioshock but watch that trailer and tell me that's not BioShock.

I literally called it JudasShock when I saw the trailer.

dioxxys posted...

Maybe a year or two.

We finally got a trailer at least:
https://youtu.be/pmefiirV0JM

Not strictly Bioshock but watch that trailer and tell me that's not BioShock.

oh snap so this is Rapture in space!?!

Is it connected or just spiritual?

I'm not sure about the details but it's a Ken Levine game I was one of the biggest names behind the shock series

DrizztLink posted...

Dasubermacht.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/8/AAfVATAAEIOS.jpg

that's a picture I haven't seen in a long time

Rip DAS

I played through it for the first time a couple years back. It just wasn't that good, especially in comparison to the first two games.

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It's narratively shoddy compared to its predecessors. That's my big one.

It's already been mentioned, but the whole "both sides are bad" message for Founders/Vox is absolutely off-base, to the point where when you're fighting Vox they have the exact same combat units as the Founders, just slightly different weapons.

Plasmids tied into the theming of Bioshock with it being a product of the rare processed material that everyone's fighting over and a result of their objectivist ideals leading to "forbidden" research. Vigors are just... there. Because we needed to have Plasmids, right?

I feel the "infinite worlds" story was the one they wanted to tell, which is why they focused so poorly on the "racism is bad" premise of the setting.

Oh, one more thing that's not been mentioned: Columbia just does nothing for the story. Rapture makes sense. The way it works naturally led to its downfall. Columbia's issues don't really illustrate anything other than the fact that Comstock is an asshole.

pegusus123456 posted...

Oh, one more thing that's not been mentioned: Columbia just does nothing for the story. Rapture makes sense. The way it works naturally led to its downfall. Columbia's issues don't really illustrate anything other than the fact that Comstock is an asshole.

Columbia actually works better than Rapture as we seen people in real life would literally make Columbia if they could....

WingsOfGood posted...

Columbia actually works better than Rapture as we seen people in real life would literally make Columbia if they could....

They wouldn't throw it in the sky though. Rapture being underwater makes sense, Comstock could have just opened a ranch in Utah.

pegusus123456 posted...

They wouldn't throw it in the sky though. Rapture being underwater makes sense, Comstock could have just opened a ranch in Utah.

Progressives make wealth tax a thing watch Bezos, Elon, Zuck make a flying city.