Board 8 > Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Mafia: 2-2 And I Was the MVP

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ALIVE

1. Han
2. Peaf
3. Edumey
4. Chaeix
5. Death
6. Ulti
7. Lopen
8. Sbell
9. Hb
10. Red
11. Corrik
12. IGCD
13. 5starscream
14. Chang

DEAD

1. LD1 - Plum, TOWN Stubborn Asshole
2. KN1 - Sultan, TOWN Recon

[2]Han - Lopen, Corrik
[2]Death - Peaf, Chang
[1]IGCD - Dumey
[1]JC - (Ulti), IGCD
[1]Peaf - JC
[1]Chang - Ulti
[1]Ulti - Sbell
[0]Dumey - (Peaf)

WITH 14 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 VOTES TO REACH MAJORITY. DAY ENDS SATURDAY AT 6PM CST.

I am the MVP

Oh no, a lack of flair!
Noooooooooo

Death, I know you've already acknowledged that your lack of vote at end of day looks bad. You've also said that you don't vote much in general, so that's not going to change immediately. If you had to put a vote down right now, or a FoS who would you put it on?

Hmmm

Sbell is the player I feel the most about as far as enigmas go. But his illness is keeping me at bay there.

Instead I will just say it would probably be Corrik. To jolt him awake for starters
But also he is a lot more useless than usual. Plus he hasn't even come in to join the votes on me, despite his supposed suspicions.

htaeD posted...

Hmmm

Sbell is the player I feel the most about as far as enigmas go. But his illness is keeping me at bay there.

Instead I will just say it would probably be Corrik. To jolt him awake for starters
But also he is a lot more useless than usual. Plus he hasn't even come in to join the votes on me, despite his supposed suspicions.

this is such a non-answer it's CRAZY

I feel like that's a very safe opinion.

Do you feel like town Death actively scum hunts more, and you're feeling limited or off this game because of the Cult setup making more Town than usual?
Or do you think this game is representative of your standard play?

changmas posted...

this is such a non-answer it's CRAZY

Non answer?
I gave a name and another.

EDumey posted...

I feel like that's a very safe opinion.

Do you feel like town Death actively scum hunts more, and you're feeling limited or off this game because of the Cult setup making more Town than usual?
Or do you think this game is representative of your standard play?

I feel I scumhunt better when I have physical info. The cult stuff has been distracting me I admit.
But no I dont think this game is far off from my typical play.. Maybe hampered a bit by all the workdays.

Hey Corrik thoughts on Death?

htaeD posted...

Not even gonna quote the bit about % because its impossible to talk to that kind of logic.
Though to be fair it does make me think I should look at the other 2, just in case.

htaeD posted...

Hmmm

Sbell is the player I feel the most about as far as enigmas go. But his illness is keeping me at bay there.

Instead I will just say it would probably be Corrik. To jolt him awake for starters
But also he is a lot more useless than usual. Plus he hasn't even come in to join the votes on me, despite his supposed suspicions.

You sure didn't look much from that post last topic, did you?
From your perspective, there's only two to look at. You're giving one of them a pass. And you didn't even mention the other.

If you buy my theory that at least one of the non voters is probably scum, then you have a 50% chance if you are town!

Let's think of a question or two for Corrik to actually answer instead of just poking him to contribute.

Fuck, i knew i should have followed corrik for funsies yesterday.

Worth noting, by the way, is that Ulti declared death as totally town very early on on day 1.

I had him on my town list yesterday for the same reason - he seemed to react naturally to igcd's shot. But i think that's just because death doesn't get as visibly worked up as some of our other players here do.

Oh I know those odds
But actually I feel like your logic should include players like Ulti who might as well not have had a vote down near the end of the day.

Also I confess I didnt really look that much yet. Its late and I focused a bit on some other things. You know how it goes.

Trust me, I am not giving the other a pass. My feelings about Sbell started before this day began.

Peace___Frog posted...

I had him on my town list yesterday for the same reason - he seemed to react naturally to igcd's shot. But i think that's just because death doesn't get as visibly worked up as some of our other players here do.

A few of my scum meltdowns disagree there.
Granted I think I have approved that aspect of me.

Yeah it's super late for you. I'm ready for bed myself.

And i actually made a big fuck up there. For a second i thought it WAS Ulti who was the third. That's how much I've forgotten about red.

I cant blame ya on that one. Like I said, Ulti might as well not have voted.

htaeD posted...

should include players like Ulti who might as well not have had a vote down

This is mostly true, but I think if we did go for a special, Red was a very likely candidate, so him leaving his vote there and leaving is a LITTLE more dangerous than just not voting at all. (assuming scum Ulti town Red in this scenario)

I will grant him that distinction.

I'm gonna be honest Death I don't like the vibe of this pressure on you.

How do you feel about it. Misled town or scum?

Hm

A lot of players mentioned me without doing something about it, (and 5tar has fallen of the map entirely)

So I will grant Peaf and Chang that they at least voted me. Well Peaf did and he egged Changmas on, so I like Peaf more of the two. He's also directly talking to me.

I dont think Changmas has sounded very ingenuine, especially when he gets righteous. But he comes across as a bit more restrained in his actions.
Still. Leaning town. On those two at least.
I havent kept track of everyone who named me so far though. Day2 that is.

That said I dont like the part of Changmas that just comes, posts, and leaves again.

I'm on page 7 of the previous topic and I had a thought im going to throw out.

What if instead of there being targets that can be recruited like someone had suggested there are just a bunch of anti-recruitment mechanics?

Like Plums role, or whoever get neighbourized can't be recruited that night or if JC got recruited he would die anyway?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I'm on page 7 of the previous topic and I had a thought im going to throw out.

What if instead of there being targets that can be recruited like someone had suggested there are just a bunch of anti-recruitment mechanics?

Like Plums role, or whoever get neighbourized can't be recruited that night or if JC got recruited he would die anyway?

The what if here mostly returns an answer of all this speculation is so dumb it doesn't matter in the slightest.

Anti recruitment mechanics for players, but no mechanics for recruiting?

I don't follow. Do you mean hidden limitations, such as the "scum will be punished for ending day early" thing?

Red, STEERING FORCE, wants to battle!
Cue pokemon gym leader battle music

Leafeon13N posted...

The what if here mostly returns an answer of all this speculation is so dumb it doesn't matter in the slightest.

It does matter because instead of people getting stuck thinking in one way it opens up another avenue of thought process.

I will try my best to catch up tomorrow morning I am so not sober at the moment

part of the reason why I claimed was so I could be less active today and have you guys just be like whatever

~drunk jc confessionz~

i will be around tomorrow morning for a bit and then back in action for day 3 <3

This game is so boring. For all the complaining about my theories once I stopped talking about them no one had anything to say.

Maybe there really isn't a scumteam and a scumteam existing is what makes mafia fun.

Someone is shooting, i think it is reasonable to assume it is a scumteam.

Wait...only 9 posts
What the hell is this?

Red I started ISOing you
And I am already done.

I appreciate that you did post here and there and that you had a call on Plum day1 at least.
But what do you want to do now?

Finally caught up. Busy morning. Have a few things to mention from last topic.
JC not reading the flip irks me. I know Han said it happens all the time as town but I can't get my head around why as town when we have such limited information already you'd willingly ignore vital information. Like wtf.
Hb mentions JC drawing attention to himself as recruiter would be a terrible idea, this is true however, JC said himself he was worried about a special so getting his crumbs and claim down early actually makes a lot of sense.
p 331 I may be misreading this but Han seems to ignore the possibility of being killed by lynch. Can someone explain this to me because I think Han said he won't be back. He says if it's only Cult then why would JC be afraid of dying but again JC mentioned being scared about a special before this.
p 362 and 364. Chang and Peaf are apparently now the best of buddies. Chang wants more attention on the 3 people that have doubted his alignment the most. Shocking revelation.
P 379 is a straight up lie. First of all my scum reads have changed since D1. I originally had PEaf Chang Ulti and Death as my 4 scum reads. Today I've clearly talked about IGCD, my theory was immediately squashed because the role is banned but to say I've only looked at you 2 is wrong. Secondly, the reason I haven't changed my mind is because you've done absolutely nothing to make me feel you're less scummy. In fact, you two not being best friends makes me even more suspicious of you as a scum pairing. It's hypocritical that you say I've been tunneling you 2 wihtout looking elsewhere when you both have me as scum when multiple people have told you they see it differently. At least chang has said he's willing to stop trying to push me after seeing it's not going anyway.
P 385. Peaf is on Death who was on Chang. This is literally the same thing you did yesterday with me.

Who's here right now? I don't want to waste my few hours talking to myself.

I am here.
And I was just thinking, when will 5tarscream come back too.

Good news is I have less suspicion on you than I did D1. Bad news is I think Peafmas have moved on from me to you because too many people said they're barking up the wrong tree.

What do you think of Corrik's interactions with plum at EoD?

Also I would usually have been back earlier because my son usually naps from around 2 until around 4 but today we got back much later than usual as we went out for an anniversary dinner. Not sure when he'll wake up so I might disappear again but I'll be back around 12ish (China time) if there's anything left unfinished.

5tarscream posted...

Good news is I have less suspicion on you than I did D1. Bad news is I think Peafmas have moved on from me to you because too many people said they're barking up the wrong tree.

What do you think of Corrik's interactions with plum at EoD?

A bit odd considering how much he seemed to lose interest in Plum as soon as he claimed.
Before that he was behaving more like his typical self for once. But after he just ignored the game almost.

Of the inactivity Cerberus (Corrik, Red and Ulti) why are you more focused on Corrik than the others? Is it just because he's been threatening you or is there more to it?

Huh?
You were the one who brought Corrik up here. I was more focused on Red if anything.

Though I can also say that Corrik I hold to a slightly higher (more active) standard than those other two.

I mean in general not specifically right now. I think you've spoken a few times about wanting him to be more active and that you've had enough of his threats and inactivity and stuff.

Yeah but I normally dont expect much to happen because he is like a slippery eel.
I cant get a read on him if he doesnt do anything. I dont even think a vote will do much.

But.. I will ask everyone else. What do you think of Corrik?

Id be inclined to lean town on Corrik, outside of his lets kill death posts and the claim he poisoned you Id say he hasnt been particularly scummy in any of his other posts. Inactivity isnt always a scum hiding technique. Corrik is often very low profile early on, especially when there hasnt been a ton to contribute to if were being honest. Id be happy enough to let him slide for now.
You feel scum lean on red?

Red is tough.
I believe I saw some glimpses of townred spirit in the few posts he has made. But he has not really done anything either.

At least he apologized for missing the deadline.

I'll give you a gold 5tar, scream.

Corrik, some real opinions please

htaeD posted...

Corrik, some real opinions please

Kill death so I can get my poison back

Thats not an opinion. Try again.

htaeD posted...

Thats not an opinion. Try again.

Kill death so I can get my beautiful poison back.