Current Events > Does the Switch version of F-Zero X have the Expansion Kit with it?

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https://fzero.fandom.com/wiki/F-Zero_X_Expansion_Kit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CEKHrXjJOk

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almost certainly not

viewmaster_pi posted...

almost certainly not

That seems like an opportunity that was missed.

SonicZack posted...

That seems like an opportunity that was missed.

This is the same company that put up Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2 but without the ability to transfer Pokemon over from the VC Gen 1 and Gen 2 games, pretty much defeating the point of having the Stadium games there to begin with.

And then there's the perpetual lack of Controller Pak support for the games that used it back in the day (such as Mario Kart 64).

Solar_Crimson posted...

This is the same company that put up Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2 but without the ability to transfer Pokemon over from the VC Gen 1 and Gen 2 games, pretty much defeating the point of having the Stadium games there to begin with.

And then there's the perpetual lack of Controller Pak support for the games that used it back in the day (such as Mario Kart 64).

I mean tbf how often has any of the releases if classic games in any system allowed for extra accessories or saved data bonus exist? Plus Stadium wouldnt allow for it because those games arent on the NSO service anyhow so there would be no point in having yiu Pokemon there

Solar_Crimson posted...

This is the same company that put up Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2 but without the ability to transfer Pokemon over from the VC Gen 1 and Gen 2 games, pretty much defeating the point of having the Stadium games there to begin with.

And then there's the perpetual lack of Controller Pak support for the games that used it back in the day (such as Mario Kart 64).

Even though I washed my hands of Nintendo after the Wii (still bought a 3DS), I still feel intense hatred and frustration against the company because they will forever keep pulling this shit...and their dumbass consumer base keeps bending their asses over sans-lube, with wondruous applause!

Baha05 posted...

I mean tbf how often has any of the releases if classic games in any system allowed for extra accessories or saved data bonus exist?

The point is that they should include that stuff. Project64 has built in memory pak support, there's absolutely no reason Nintendo can't include that functionality

Gwynevere posted...

The point is that they should include that stuff. Project64 has built in memory pak support, there's absolutely no reason Nintendo can't include that functionality

Its really not the point though and people are ignoring things for the sake of an argument anyhow.

Baha05 posted...

Its really not the point though and people are ignoring things for the sake of an argument anyhow.

Nintendo supports the idea of emulation through their own secretive R&D tech, albeit poorly crafted tech that the Project64 and Retroarch devs cry laughing about so that is very relevant here.

Baha05 posted...

Its really not the point though

"It's never been included before" isn't a good justification for a company withholding functionality in their product that alternatives include

Jagr_68 posted...

Nintendo supports the idea of emulation through their own secretive R&D tech, albeit poorly crafted tech that the Project64 and Retroarch devs cry laughing about so that is very relevant here.

Yet the fact is that this is likely not a Nintendo only thing as other classic games with emulators exist and probably lack some of the extra features too. Its most likely just not a big deal for them tomtry and make work arounds for things.

Gwynevere posted...

"It's never been included before" isn't a good justification for a company withholding functionality in their product that alternatives include

Likewise its not terrible either. It just how things is and for certain things there are probably some complexities that exist that would prevent things from working.

Baha05 posted...

Its really not the point though and people are ignoring things for the sake of an argument anyhow.

That is the point. If fan emulators are able to allow for Controller Pak support, then there's no reason why Nintendo couldn't allow for their own emulators to do the same, other than stubbornness on their part.

In fact, without the ability to use the Transfer Pak, you're outright locked out of playable characters in Mario Golf and Mario Tennis on the N64. With the VC and NSO versions of those games being the only way to play them legally without tracking down an old, working N64 and game carts, you're buying gimped versions of those games because Nintendo refuses to account for the lack of peripherals that the original games used to access extra content.

Baha05 posted...

Plus Stadium wouldnt allow for it because those games arent on the NSO service anyhow so there would be no point in having yiu Pokemon there

Like I said, they could have found a way for Stadium on NSO to work with the 3DS VC versions of the Pokemon games. They already did alter those games to use wireless communications--the only time they even made gameplay changes to their VC games--so the NSO Stadium games could have similarly been adjusted to account for 3DS communications.

Baha05 posted...

It just how things is and for certain things there are probably some complexities that exist that would prevent things from working.

Complexities that emulator devs ironed out a decade ago but Nintendo apparently couldn't figure out, despite making the original hardware?

It's a fact that what you're offered for a paid service is subpar relative to what's actually possible emulation wise. I dont care if it's only Nintendo or every company that does it, it's objectively bad for the consumer

Solar_Crimson posted...

That is the point. If fan emulators are able to allow for Controller Pak support, then there's no reason why Nintendo couldn't allow for their own emulators to do the same, other than stubbornness on their part.

In fact, without the ability to use the Transfer Pak, you're outright locked out of playable characters in Mario Golf and Mario Tennis on the N64. With the VC and NSO versions of those games being the only way to play them legally without tracking down an old, working N64 and game carts, you're buying gimped versions of those games because Nintendo refuses to account for the lack of peripherals that the original games used to access extra content.

Like I said, they could have found a way for Stadium on NSO to work with the 3DS VC versions of the Pokemon games. They already did alter those games to use wireless communications--the only time they even made gameplay changes to their VC games--so the NSO Stadium games could have similarly been adjusted to account for 3DS communications.

Right but by that logic no classic games put on any gaming system (minus PC) will never live up the fan emulation regardless because unlike official sold classic, fan emulators are going to have far more features to them that most anything on Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft platforms will never have.

And again thats not even accounting the fact that there might be some issues that cant be solved in their end because of technical issues. These companies have billions but doesnt mean they arent flawed.

And the whole Pokemon thing being tied to 3DS communication would just piss more people off and they would be better if they had either Pokemon Home communications that retroactively changes stats and move temporarily or they introduce GB/GBC games to the online membership. Because having it tied with a system they no longer sell means you limited it to those that still own that system and that bought the games prior to the eShop being closed on it.

Gwynevere posted...

Complexities that emulator devs ironed out a decade ago but Nintendo apparently couldn't figure out, despite making the original hardware?

It's a fact that what you're offered for a paid service is subpar relative to what's actually possible emulation wise. I dont care if it's only Nintendo or every company that does it, it's objectively bad for the consumer

The majority of the consumers wont care and most probably dont know or remember what have the added shit did, and again even if they added said features people will constantly complain anyhow because any single classic on any of the three systems are going to lack a lot of the features fan emulation does.