Current Events > Dead Space is one of the best remakes in the history of videogames

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHtMjUpZGvs

Maybe they actually made it good this time

Other than the graphics being improved, how different is the game in execution? Also, how much does Isaac talk and take his helmet off now? I know part of the remake was getting rid of him as a silent protagonist and completely redesigning his character, and while I get that his new face looks like the voice actor for motion capture purposes, it is a little bit rough looking at stills and realizing that now he looks like store brand Adam Sandler.

Edit: I mean, look how they massacred my boy:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/5/AAVhf4AAEAHV.jpg

s0nicfan posted...

Edit: I mean, look how they massacred my boy:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/5/AAVhf4AAEAHV.jpg

The original looks a lot like default Shepard. I think EA wanted to distinguish him more.

Wow I can't wait to play it someday

s0nicfan posted...

Other than the graphics being improved, how different is the game in execution? Also, how much does Isaac talk and take his helmet off now? I know part of the remake was getting rid of him as a silent protagonist and completely redesigning his character, and while I get that his new face looks like the voice actor for motion capture purposes, it is a little bit rough looking at stills and realizing that now he looks like store brand Adam Sandler.

Edit: I mean, look how they massacred my boy:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/5/AAVhf4AAEAHV.jpg

Youre telling me that's not Adam Sandler? Lol

Ratchetrockon posted...

Wow I can't wait to play it someday

Or just buy the original and 2 on Steam for $5.

s0nicfan posted...

Edit: I mean, look how they massacred my boy:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/5/AAVhf4AAEAHV.jpg

T....there's no way that this is real.

Jagr_68 posted...

Or just buy the original and 2 on Steam for $5.

Ohh i didn't know they were that cheap

KalimariX8 posted...

Youre telling me that's not Adam Sandler? Lol

FatAnimeBooty posted...

T....there's no way that this is real.

Now that he has speaking roles they had to bring in a voice actor, so to make the character model work they redesigned Isaac's face to match the voice actors face so it was easier to do motion capture on the dialogue. I guess they didn't want to pay to do the hard work of mapping the captured audio to a traditionally modeled face, so canonically now Isaac is more of a guy that sits at home eating chips watching the football game and less someone who looks like they actually do spend their life doing maintenance on giant space rigs:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/5/AABJX0AAEIdZ.jpg

Comes out too close to HP. I'll circle back and snag it when a price drop hits

I kinda miss Isaac's old face but the remake is great. It's the next RE1 Remake in terms of how it handles the original game: removes no OG content (well, I guess except for one...but it was a gameplay segment nobody liked), remixes a few story beats to mess with veterans, and adds completely new content, story and otherwise.

To get into detail on what new stuff the remake offers:

• The Ishimura is one giant interconnected map. As such they added brand new rooms and segments to the map to link the different areas together. The tram system is still there for fast-travel.
• Power Node doors are gone, instead replaced with some kind of security clearance system. You get a higher security clearance the further you go in the story, and you'll be able to access doors and lockers you couldn't before once you meet the requirements.
• Side Missions are brand new and absolutely worth doing, they provide new story and goodies to collect.
• Various rooms now have circuit breakers where you can divert power in order to access other parts of the rooms. As an example, one room requires you needing to divert power to a door but you only have two circuits to work with. So you'll need to remove the circuit for the lights in order to open the door, which means the room becomes pitch black. Of course, enemies start spawning more frequently after doing this.
• Thanks to the redesigned map, you'll be doing backtracking on a semi-regular basis depending on what the story wants you to do or if you want to go back to previous areas once you have higher clearance, so they added an event director that randomly generates scares to mess with you. Stuff like random noises/screams, stuff sparking or exploding in front of you, lights suddenly flickering or turning off, hallucinations and voices, and of course enemies.
• Some things got altered. Zero G segments got redesigned thanks to the new Zero G controls, and remember the awkward cannon segments? Those are completely changed into new gameplay segments...

Ngl, I'd watch an Adam Sandler dead space movie

BakonBitz posted...

I have really mixed feelings about that list, but definitely for an overly specific reason that most people won't care about. It sounds like from a gameplay perspective they've redesigned things to introduce backtracking as an excuse to let the director do more random jump scares, which is probably good for a gameplay perspective but to me it kind of destroys the immersion of what you're trying to do.

The ishimura is supposed to be this massive ship which is why you need a train to get around, and Isaac is getting shuttled around trying to fix different systems as quickly as he can so he can get the hell out of there. Having one big interconnected map drastically reduces the scale of the ship you're on because, where previously you had no choice but to take a rail line to another destination because of how far away it was, now you can just walk there. Plus it's going to result in all these weird circumstances like two different parts of the ship that would normally be nowhere near each other are now within walking distance because everything has to be clustered together to make the connected map work. It's going to feel more like you're walking through a particularly large Mall and less like you're on a vehicle that's over a mile long

I can understand getting rid of power nodes, although that takes away some of the risk reward of going off the beaten path, but adding things like having to choose between powering a door or the lights comes off as a good gameplay trade-off but no ship would ever be designed that way.

Granted, all of these are nitpicks, but one of the brilliant parts of the original Dead space was creating a horror shooter scenario where everything felt practical, both in terms of how the ship was designed and operated, how Isaac had to get around, etc. No random jumpscares meant that every encounter was handcrafted by a person and they used that to their advantage to really play with light and shadow and tension and anticipation. I just don't see an AI randomly spitting an enemy at me in a hallway having the same level of craft, but I could be wrong. Even the new security system is going to be weird, because it's going to be designed for backtracking, meaning introductory areas are going to have high security clearance doors for no reason other than because you're going to be coming back here later. But the security level of the door is almost definitely not going to line up with the relative importance of what's behind that door or why that stuff is in that part of the ship to begin with.

^I mean, to be fair, they didn't add unnecessary backtracking. The story beats are the same which means you'll eventually have to revisit previous segments of the ship. And they kept all the original scares and enemy encounters, it's just if you choose to do optional backtracking that's when the scare director kicks in.

I do get the whole feeling of the Ishimura being much larger in the original thanks to the tram though.

I'm glad the game is getting good reviews.

I'm getting a PS5 soon and this will probably be the first game I get.

BakonBitz posted...

^I mean, to be fair, they didn't add unnecessary backtracking. The story beats are the same which means you'll eventually have to revisit previous segments of the ship. And they kept all the original scares and enemy encounters, it's just if you choose to do optional backtracking that's when the scare director kicks in.

I do get the whole feeling of the Ishimura being much larger in the original thanks to the tram though.

I suppose this gives them a little more control over when you get resources, as opposed to the old method of making the player choose whether to use a power node or not. It's just going to be weird revisiting the first areas in the game near the tail end of the story and being able to unlock some top secret clearance closet right by the main entrance that has plasma ammo or something.

But like I said, all of my complaints are nitpicks that come down to the first game doing such a brilliant job of immersion, but I also recognize that the changes here are sacrificing that design coherence in exchange for what will almost definitely be better gameplay moment to moment.

s0nicfan posted...

Edit: I mean, look how they massacred my boy:

Is that for real? He looks like fucking Adam Sandler.

Xatrion posted...

Is that for real? He looks like fucking Adam Sandler.

It actually isn't, the picture is an edit, lol. An actual picture of updated Isaac is on post 10.

Xatrion posted...

Is that for real? He looks like fucking Adam Sandler.

It isn't real, but this is:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/6/AAEv3mAAEIe0.jpg

ellis123 posted...

It isn't real, but this is:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/6/AAEv3mAAEIe0.jpg

Right wingers having a normal one over

*checks notes*

Games about zombie aliens

I just replayed these recently on gamepass. Nothing about this is worth $70

Jagr_68 posted...

Or just buy the original and 2 on Steam for $5.

This guy gets it

Wait for it to be $10

Agonized_rufous posted...

Ngl, I'd watch an Adam Sandler dead space movie

Red Dwarf is probably close enough.

I just beat the og a couple months ago and nothing I've seen about this makes me want to do it again so soon

And yeah Harry Potter will probably take my money anyway. That bitch

It feels harder than the original. Especially on hard.

remaster

that image is edited but the real one is uncanny
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/6/AAVhf4AAEIfS.jpg

ellis123 posted...

It isn't real, but this is:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/6/AAEv3mAAEIe0.jpg

What do they mean by woke?

I finished and really enjoyed the original game, and can not remember any wokeness. It was primarily survival horror with some corporation sci-fi story bits iirc.

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

What do they mean by woke?

I finished and really enjoyed the original game, and can not remember any wokeness. It was primarily survival horror with some corporation sci-fi story bits iirc.

One of the characters had her breasts slightly reduced to make them look more realistic.

Still not convinced

I enjoyed the original but I'm not seeing anything justifying the purchase outside of the better graphics

ellis123 posted...

One of the characters had her breasts slightly reduced to make them look more realistic.

If its who I think it is, the fuck? What was unrealistic about that? Some girls have big boobs, oh well.

dave_is_slick posted...

If its who I think it is, the fuck? What was unrealistic about that? Some girls have big boobs, oh well.

It wasn't unrealistic because breasts cannot be large, but because they looked off when upscaling to the new model and when they touched over all the models to make them look better she ended up getting a reduction.

ellis123 posted...

It isn't real, but this is:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/6/AAEv3mAAEIe0.jpg

Okay, I thought this was the achievement list, and had a nice chuckle.

Too bad it's not.

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

What do they mean by woke?

I finished and really enjoyed the original game, and can not remember any wokeness. It was primarily survival horror with some corporation sci-fi story bits iirc.

Here's what some of those topics called out in the screenshot are saying:
From the topic "About "wokeness":

My observations:

- "Gender neutral" bathrooms with no bathroom stall doors (lol wtf is that about?? so we can all see each other poop?
- Some race swaps in the posters; particularly in the Medical Bay; white male doctors changed to racial minority women
- Some posters depicting exercise and fitness replaced from male models to female models... a real sort of "Women can do it too!" kind-of vibe
- Obviously the sex-appeal reduction on Kendra (this doesn't bother me too much as I really like her new character more anyway)
- Both the Kellion Pilots are minorities; one is a female (again, doesn't bother me much - why should it? just a change I wanted to mention)
- New Audio/text logs with random and sometimes needless gay-references (female patient remarking about her "girlfriend", etc.)
- Kendra being a lesbian? (lol again, like what? she was never a love-interest or romantically adjacent character - is this needed?)

so yeah

From "why is there so much wokeness"

3 genders for bathrooms, replaced white female who made the original story plot work with a black female, watered down plot to take in the point the people are now having it off with the same sex, appealing women now are all ugly.

So it sounds like the team (apparently this was the ME: Andromeda team according to the forum) took the original game and went around changing a bunch of existing characters to make it more diverse, including more characters explicitly mentioning their sexuality so you know the game has gay characters.

TC do you have an opinion of your own on the game or do you just parrot what you are told by someone you see as "influential"?

Ratchetrockon posted...

Ohh i didn't know they were that cheap

The PS3/360 generation of EA games (DS, Mirror's Edge, Dragon Age) are always dirt cheap for any platform they're on now, and they're also playable out of the gate with an EA Play subscription on Steam.

Side note, removing trams and power nodes is absolutely dumb and only takes away from doing multiple replay runs not to mention the original games' level to level enjoyable linearity imo.

Those changes alone makes this a free with subscription type of purchase now.

Jagr_68 posted...

Side note, removing trams and power nodes is absolutely dumb and only takes away from doing multiple replay runs

Trams are still in the game. You can choose to use them if you wish.
And I'm assuming you're talking about Power Node doors specifically...because the Power Node upgrade system is still there.

Yeah power nodes are still in, they just eliminated node doors so that you don't have to always carry a node just in case. Great change IMO.

s0nicfan posted...

So it sounds like the team (apparently this was the ME: Andromeda team according to the forum)

IF true, that's a yikes from me.

I like Isaac's new look, looks aethetic, and his VA looks absolutely handsome