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UnfairRepresent
02/02/23 12:46:59 PM
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When Vegeta first comes onto the scene in the aptly named Saiyan Saga, he boasts about his class as a warrior elite. His power level seems to back that up, sitting at 18,000. Factor in his Oozaru transformation, and that number multiplies tenfold.

The movie pamphlet states that Turles has a power level of 19,000. After eating a piece of fruit of the Tree of Might, Turles' power level increased dramatically; over 300,000 according to the movie pamphlet

He was a filthy low class warrior. How the fuck was he strong?

If he turned up during the Sayian Saga he could have whipped Goku, The Z warriers, Nappa and Raditz at the same time without the tree.

Also trounced Vegeta 1 on 1

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--Zero-
02/02/23 12:48:52 PM
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Yeah, but thats just a movie so they can do whatever they want with scaling and it wont matter to the canon lol. The fruit was a big power boost.

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UnfairRepresent
02/02/23 12:51:05 PM
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Yeah, but thats just a movie so they can do whatever they want with scaling and it wont matter to the canon lol. The fruit was a big power boost.
No this is pre-fruit

Base Turles was stronger than Vegeta

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ElleRagu
02/02/23 12:51:19 PM
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turles is essentially fanmade given his status as a non-canon movie only character

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--Zero-
02/02/23 12:55:15 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
No this is pre-fruit

Base Turles was stronger than Vegeta

I know. Im not debating that he was stronger than Vegeta lol. Im just saying the fruit was a huge boost to the 300k power level.

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RyuForce
02/02/23 12:58:25 PM
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https://youtu.be/rGHh094WfcM

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Srk700
02/02/23 1:28:54 PM
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Isn't that how it usually goes with the movie villains vs their canon counterparts?
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Disengaged
02/02/23 1:29:21 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
When Vegeta first comes onto the scene in the aptly named Saiyan Saga, he boasts about his class as a warrior elite. His power level seems to back that up, sitting at 18,000. Factor in his Oozaru transformation, and that number multiplies tenfold.

The movie pamphlet states that Turles has a power level of 19,000. After eating a piece of fruit of the Tree of Might, Turles' power level increased dramatically; over 300,000 according to the movie pamphlet

He was a filthy low class warrior. How the fuck was he strong?

If he turned up during the Sayian Saga he could have whipped Goku, The Z warriers, Nappa and Raditz at the same time without the tree.

Also trounced Vegeta 1 on 1

Bruh, you literally just described Goku's entire premise, as something you find foreign and confusing, in a thread about an obvious Cloneku but bad type character.

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ViewtifulJoe
02/02/23 1:30:12 PM
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Didn't they have some thing where Turles said he and Goku were identical because they were both low class warriors?

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Disengaged
02/02/23 1:31:47 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Didn't they have some thing where Turles said he and Goku were identical because they were both low class warriors?

This sounds vaguely familiar, but just to be clear to everyone my Cloneku comment was in regards to a ripoff, not actual genetic clone lol.

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Foppe
02/02/23 1:32:16 PM
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If somebody that is stronger had appeared earlier, he would have dominated!!!

Aint that true to anybody in Dragon Ball?

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/02/23 1:34:55 PM
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Foppe posted...
If somebody that is stronger had appeared earlier, he would have dominated!!!

Aint that true to anybody in Dragon Ball?

Fat Buu would say no to anybody in Super short of Beerus and Whis.

Fat Buu beats Jiren. :)

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UnfairRepresent
02/02/23 2:19:02 PM
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Foppe posted...
If somebody that is stronger had appeared earlier, he would have dominated!!!

Aint that true to anybody in Dragon Ball?
The fact he is stronger is what is crazy

Would be like if Captain Boomerang was stronger than Superman in the DCU because he turned up later

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Foppe
02/02/23 2:21:08 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The fact he is stronger is what is crazy

Would be like if Captain Boomerang was stronger than Superman in the DCU because he turned up later
He had been in more closer to death situations, which gives them a power boost?

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A_Good_Boy
02/02/23 2:22:15 PM
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Foppe posted...
He had been in more closer to death situations, which gives them a power boost?
You'd think Vegeta and Frieza would have noticed that.

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Foppe
02/02/23 2:25:57 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
You'd think Vegeta and Frieza would have noticed that.
He did a desertion and created his own group of bandits that went from planet to planet, killing everybody on them and slowly grow stronger?
Didnt they mention that in the movie?

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Irony
02/02/23 2:38:25 PM
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Despite having a new form that he found Cooler was still weaker than Frieza


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TMOG
02/02/23 2:40:35 PM
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Power levels are the worst thing to happen to Dragon Ball
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mybbqrules
02/02/23 3:05:03 PM
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I can buy that Turles was stronger than og Vegeta, because Turles was wrecking Goku pre-fruit with minimal difficulty.

Also, wasn't this version of Goku supposed to be "namek arrival Goku"? I seem to remember he busted out a Kaio-ken10 and maintained it without much overt strain on his body.

Goku doesn't hit kaio-ken10 until he's on his way to namek.

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Trickfinger
02/02/23 3:05:52 PM
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Welcome to 1995 lmao.

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MetroidGamer666
02/02/23 3:08:35 PM
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Youre not dealing with the average Saiyan anymore
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GreenMario
02/02/23 3:10:43 PM
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MetroidGamer666 posted...
Youre not dealing with consistent writing anymore


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Scotty_Rogers
02/02/23 3:11:16 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
I can buy that Turles was stronger than og Vegeta, because Turles was wrecking Goku pre-fruit with minimal difficulty.

Tullece was not wrecking Goku pre-fruit, only post

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/02/23 3:42:45 PM
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Next thing you know, someone is gonna come in here and say he looks like Goku

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Trickfinger
02/02/23 3:44:16 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Next thing you know, someone is gonna come in here and say he looks like Goku
Looks more like Goku Black to me

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/02/23 3:57:34 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
Looks more like Goku Black to me

You just BLEW MY MIND.

Holy shit, Goku Black looks like Goten!

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BipBapBam
02/02/23 3:59:05 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
Looks more like Goku Black to me
You mean Goten Black?

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MarcyWarcy
02/02/23 3:59:58 PM
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Weird, its almost like dbz is written with no foresight
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Trickfinger
02/02/23 4:03:11 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
Weird, its almost like dbz is written with no foresight
A kids comic not written with foresight?

Surely you jest.

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Srk700
02/02/23 4:20:05 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
You just BLEW MY MIND.

Holy shit, Goku Black looks like Goten!

Shit, Goten looks like Bardock!
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Trickfinger
02/02/23 4:20:37 PM
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Srk700 posted...
Shit, Goten looks like Bardock!
No, he doesn't. He looks like Goku Jr.

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LordFarquad1312
02/02/23 4:23:32 PM
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Movie is filler that can't take place at any point of the actual story.

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Irony
02/02/23 4:24:21 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
Weird, its almost like dbz is written with no foresight
I mean it's the most egregious example of making shit up as you go

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Trickfinger
02/02/23 4:24:27 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Movie is filler that can't take place at any point of the actual story.
A feature length movie is not "filler".

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Irony
02/02/23 4:25:17 PM
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Filler and non-canon garbage are interchangeable

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LordFarquad1312
02/02/23 4:27:13 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
A feature length movie is not "filler".
Not in the manga=filler.

Also like I said, there's absolutely no place in the canon where it could've taken place.


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deathproof12
02/02/23 4:34:11 PM
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Goku was able to go Kaioken times 20 in that movie even though in the Saiyan Saga anything past *2 was putting major strain on him
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Disengaged
02/02/23 4:36:28 PM
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deathproof12 posted...
Goku was able to go Kaioken times 20 in that movie even though in the Saiyan Saga anything past *2 was putting major strain on

it wasn't putting major strain on him, he just didn't learn to count that high until Namek.


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Holy_Cloud105
02/02/23 4:39:59 PM
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Irony posted...
Despite having a new form that he found Cooler was still weaker than Frieza
?

Both Cooler and Freeza got destroyed by SSJ Goku. He could be stronger than Freeza but still weaker than Goku.

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Trickfinger
02/02/23 4:40:22 PM
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Irony posted...
Filler and non-canon garbage are interchangeable

LordFarquad1312 posted...
Not in the manga=filler.

Also like I said, there's absolutely no place in the canon where it could've taken place.
Leave it to CEmen to sound like they're stuck in 2004.

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Scotty_Rogers
02/02/23 5:10:24 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
?

Both Cooler and Freeza got destroyed by SSJ Goku. He could be stronger than Freeza but still weaker than Goku.

Lol Freeza was even with SS1 Goku

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mybbqrules
02/02/23 5:11:37 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Tullece was not wrecking Goku pre-fruit, only post
Shit, you're right. I could've sworn the Goku vs Turles fight pre-fruit was longer. It's been a while since I've watched the movies.

I can still buy Turles being stronger than saiyan saga Vegeta though. Goku is using kaio-kenx10, which means it's post spaceship gravity training, which put Goku way above saiyan saga Vegeta.

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Holy_Cloud105
02/02/23 5:18:16 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Lol Freeza was even with SS1 Goku
Go write some fanfic about you fucking Kefla.

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Trickfinger
02/02/23 5:19:08 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Lol Freeza was even with SS1 Goku
No, he wasn't.

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Prismsblade
02/02/23 5:29:32 PM
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Wasn't it at least implied that Turles had seeded tree of mights before? Which would explain his power despite being a low class at that point.

And I think in terms of life and vitality earth is considered above average at the least on the galactic scale. Which would sorta explain why theirs gave him such a large boost.

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UnfairRepresent
02/02/23 6:16:51 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Lol Freeza was even with SS1 Goku
wut

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Scotty_Rogers
02/02/23 6:19:57 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
No, he wasn't.

Yes he was LOL read the manga

Freeza only lost because using his full powers kills his stamina quickly

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A_Good_Boy
02/02/23 6:22:59 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Wasn't it at least implied that Turles had seeded tree of mights before? Which would explain his power despite being a low class at that point.

And I think in terms of life and vitality earth is considered above average at the least on the galactic scale. Which would sorta explain why theirs gave him such a large boost.
Earth is bottom of the barrel. That's why Goku was sent in the first place.

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DoctorPiranha3
02/02/23 6:24:46 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Wasn't it at least implied that Turles had seeded tree of mights before? Which would explain his power despite being a low class at that point.
I thought this was the case for why he was so strong at base.
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