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KTG2
02/07/23 9:08:14 AM
#51:


I stumbled on it in gamestop when I was buying my PS5 and had never heard of it, person working there described it as Slay the Spire + XCom + Marvel, I immediately bought it and honestly it's probably been the best thing I've played on the system in the few weeks I've had one.

But it was definitely lacking marketing. And obviously it's...pretty niche product to begin with.

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YellowSUV
02/07/23 9:16:48 AM
#52:


Action packed Marvel superheroes and turn based tactical strategy games probably don't have the biggest overlap of fans. The concept was an uphill battle from the start.

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Accolon
02/07/23 9:17:22 AM
#53:


I'm waiting for the completed version with all the DLC

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 9:18:48 AM
#54:


Accolon posted...
I'm waiting for the completed version with all the DLC
At this rate we might not get it because people keep waiting

Get the game, it's worth it

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Pastryarchy
02/07/23 9:42:55 AM
#55:


SenlinDescends posted...
Tactical card game based on Marvel characters from the makers of Xcom

welp better luck next franchise

They can't all be Yu-gi-ohs or Pokemon.


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Pogo_Marimo
02/07/23 9:50:11 AM
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The actual gameplay looks so.... silly. It's just a bunch of people standing in a big open space in most of the trailers just... idling. It's so anti-climatic and inorganic, even for a turn-based tactics game. And yet these are supposed to be dynamic action heroes.

It immediately makes me feel like they do not have a good grasp of the material they're working with.

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 9:51:54 AM
#57:


Pogo_Marimo posted...
The actual gameplay looks so.... silly. It's just a bunch of people standing in a big open space in most of the trailers just... idling. It's so anti-climatic and inorganic, even for a turn-based tactics game. And yet these are supposed to be dynamic action heroes.

It immediately makes me feel like they do not have a good grasp of the material they're working with.
.....It's a turn based strategy game. And as far as that goes, honestly one of the most dynamic in the genre in terms of battlefield visuals. What did you want out of it?

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Zaltera
02/07/23 9:54:09 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
to be fair I never heard of it until this topic

And I post on video game forums


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OpenlyGator
02/07/23 9:59:00 AM
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I thought it was a mobile game.

It sounds like that one...

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Irony
02/07/23 9:59:47 AM
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I keep mixing this up with Gotham Knights. They both suck btw


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TheGoldenEel
02/07/23 9:59:59 AM
#61:


Its on my list but I assumed it would be cheap before long

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 10:00:38 AM
#62:


Irony posted...
I keep mixing this up with Gotham Knights. They both suck btw
Midnight Suns doesn't suck at all lol


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ThunderTrain
02/07/23 10:04:11 AM
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Yeah Im waiting for a sale. Too many games out/coming out right now too

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Sajo
02/07/23 10:05:07 AM
#64:


SenlinDescends posted...
What did you want out of it?
A fun gameplay experience.

SenlinDescends posted...
I haven't encountered a single graphical glitch, the combat is fantastic, the mission structure is no more rinse/repeat than Xcom 2, and the storyline is fine for what it is.
Caretaker's left eye is CONSTANTLY flickering with a black square, I have no idea why. Whenever I put a Midnight Suns suit on any character, their face/avatar thing on the UI just disappears. Sometimes characters are on the map but they don't show up on the field, I have to save and reload the game for them to "respawn".

Agree to disagree on the combat, it's boring as hell and way too RNG dependant. Feels worse than being mana screwed playing MTG when you get a full hand of Heroic cards you don't have any heroism for, and redrawing draws you more heroic cards. Yay.

I've never played an Xcom game, so no comment.

The storyline has no tension, because you are the "Legendary Hunter" who is going to save the world, no one is allowed to die at all (because they are Superheroes and they can't look bad), and you know for a fact that anything the Villains do is meaningless. It's such trite bullshit.

SenlinDescends posted...
Oh no not resources, Xcom 2 didn't have those.....or timed construction.....
Again, never played Xcom.

However, it's completely ass when you have to run a mission to get 50 Attack essence or whatever that shit is called and you need 120 to upgrade a card, a card that you GET FROM A FUCKING GACHA SLOT MACHINE, just to give it +1 Heroic or +25% offense, or even better, REDRAW for +12 BLOCK. WOO YEAH BABY GAME OF THE YEAR!

Most of the shit you can research is meaningless too. Ooh an Epic combat item that I'll never use because it makes you discard your hand except for the card you want to play. Neato.

This game fucking sucks ass and you have the worst taste, I've seen other topics you posted.

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 10:15:46 AM
#65:


Sajo posted...
Agree to disagree on the combat, it's boring as hell and way too RNG dependant. Feels worse than being mana screwed playing MTG when you get a full hand of Heroic cards you don't have any heroism for, and redrawing draws you more heroic cards. Yay.
Sounds like you need to work on your decks or use items, there are a LOT of ways to get around this.

Sajo posted...
However, it's completely ass when you have to run a mission to get 50 Attack essence or whatever that s*** is called and you need 120 to upgrade a card, a card that you GET FROM A f***ING GACHA SLOT MACHINE, just to give it +1 Heroic or +25% offense, or even better, REDRAW for +12 BLOCK. WOO YEAH BABY GAME OF THE YEAR!
You realise missions aren't the only way to get essence, and not even the best way, right? They give you tons and tons and tons of ways to modify or upgrade cards.

Sajo posted...
Most of the s*** you can research is meaningless too. Ooh an Epic combat item that I'll never use because it makes you discard your hand except for the card you want to play. Neato.
Yeah this just makes you sound bad. Those items can be awesome. You just have to plan out how to use them. There are TONS of characters and situations that specific item can be amazing, and also many others.

Sajo posted...
This game f***ing sucks ass and you have the worst taste, I've seen other topics you posted.
Nah the game is fine, you're just exceptionally bad at it.

Sajo posted...
Caretaker's left eye is CONSTANTLY flickering with a black square, I have no idea why. Whenever I put a Midnight Suns suit on any character, their face/avatar thing on the UI just disappears. Sometimes characters are on the map but they don't show up on the field, I have to save and reload the game for them to "respawn".
I've got maybe 5-10 hours in the game and I haven't seen any of these.

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refmon
02/07/23 10:21:41 AM
#66:


It fell off many people radars when they showed combat used cards

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SuperShake666
02/07/23 10:25:17 AM
#67:


I was interested till I saw it used card mechanics instead of just being Xcom. Fuck that.

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02/07/23 11:15:17 AM
#68:


Promotion for the game was lacking big time. The gameplay isnt for everyone either.

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Badasi12b
02/07/23 11:21:15 AM
#69:


TheSavageDragon posted...
I mean.....it's a turnbased RPG using a card system. You can slap a dozen popular licenses on it and it still would be a very niche game that doesn't appeal to the vast majority of gamers.

This. I run FAR away from turn-based every chance i get! It has to be something VERY good or something that I'm a fan of (South Park) for me to buy a turn-based RPG.

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Ivynn
02/07/23 12:14:02 PM
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Card battle system killed any interest I had

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Jupiter
02/07/23 12:17:56 PM
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My friend really likes it. I was interested in it at first, but ultimately was turned off by card based gameplay.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
02/07/23 12:18:50 PM
#73:


It will have legs for a long time like most Firaxis games.

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CreekCo
02/07/23 12:20:29 PM
#74:


Sajo posted...
A fun gameplay experience.

Caretaker's left eye is CONSTANTLY flickering with a black square, I have no idea why. Whenever I put a Midnight Suns suit on any character, their face/avatar thing on the UI just disappears. Sometimes characters are on the map but they don't show up on the field, I have to save and reload the game for them to "respawn".

Agree to disagree on the combat, it's boring as hell and way too RNG dependant. Feels worse than being mana screwed playing MTG when you get a full hand of Heroic cards you don't have any heroism for, and redrawing draws you more heroic cards. Yay.

I've never played an Xcom game, so no comment.

The storyline has no tension, because you are the "Legendary Hunter" who is going to save the world, no one is allowed to die at all (because they are Superheroes and they can't look bad), and you know for a fact that anything the Villains do is meaningless. It's such trite bullshit.

Again, never played Xcom.

However, it's completely ass when you have to run a mission to get 50 Attack essence or whatever that shit is called and you need 120 to upgrade a card, a card that you GET FROM A FUCKING GACHA SLOT MACHINE, just to give it +1 Heroic or +25% offense, or even better, REDRAW for +12 BLOCK. WOO YEAH BABY GAME OF THE YEAR!

Most of the shit you can research is meaningless too. Ooh an Epic combat item that I'll never use because it makes you discard your hand except for the card you want to play. Neato.

This game fucking sucks ass and you have the worst taste, I've seen other topics you posted.


Xcom is really good and you should check it out.

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dancing_cactuar
02/07/23 12:47:55 PM
#75:


CreekCo posted...
Xcom is really good and you should check it out.
Xcom is really fucking good.
Xcom with cards sounds like mixing peanut butter with egg yolk.

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 12:49:04 PM
#76:


dancing_cactuar posted...
Xcom is really fucking good.
Xcom with cards sounds like mixing peanut butter with egg yolk.
You should really give it a try first, it works WAY better than you'd expect

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dancing_cactuar
02/07/23 12:58:13 PM
#77:


SenlinDescends posted...
You should really give it a try first
There is a negative chance that I will spend a single cent on a $60 game with Denuvo and premium currency.


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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 12:59:52 PM
#78:


dancing_cactuar posted...
There is a negative chance that I will spend a single cent on a $60 game with Denuvo and premium currency.
Check it out from a local library if you can. Also worth noting the only premium currency is exclusively for skins, nothing gameplay related, and you get tons of free skins with the game.

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ParanoidObsessive
02/07/23 1:03:55 PM
#79:


refmon posted...
It fell off many people radars when they showed combat used cards

This for me. The initial trailers made it look kind of interesting, but then when I saw it was card-based X-Com my interest waned considerably.

Then every review I saw talked about how the writing was kind of mediocre to terrible, and that pretty much killed whatever interest I had left.

It's not super-helped by the fact that Disney's spent the last two years slowly killing any excitement I might have for Marvel in general.

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TomClark
02/07/23 1:07:35 PM
#80:


It was always gonna be a niche title, tbf.

A shame, though, I think it looks great. I'm looking forward to picking it up at some point.

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NoxObscuras
02/07/23 1:11:54 PM
#81:


Not surprising. It's Marvel sure, but the gameplay is niche on top of niche. If it was just a tactical game, I'd be interested, but card based gameplay is very off-putting to me.

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WarfireX
02/07/23 1:29:36 PM
#82:


IDGAF about some wack ass card game.

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hockeybub89
02/07/23 5:49:27 PM
#83:


Caretaker's eye is super distracting

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VampireCoyote
02/07/23 5:51:54 PM
#84:


I saw no marketing for the game at all

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
02/07/23 5:57:42 PM
#85:


VampireCoyote posted...
I saw no marketing for the game at all

I feel they did a lot of Youtube/Twitch collabs. A YouTuber I follow got to do a lot of character release info and gameplay demos and whatnot.

For how niche the genre is, pumping millions into showing it during the NFL playoffs wouldn't have paid off.

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Scarecrow17
02/07/23 6:19:25 PM
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Midnight Suns barely had any marketing. A lot of people dont even know it exists. Plus, the card based battle system is going to push a lot of people away from it. I was hesitant to buy the game because of that and I ultimately didnt. However, my older brother gifted the game for me so I was able to play through it and was pleasantly surprised. The battle system is actually pretty fun coming from someone who does not care for card based battle systems at all.

Everything else about the game is lacking, though. The writing and dialogue is cringe worthy and not great. Nicos entire character can be summed up as I hate the Avengers and muh Wanda. Blade spends 80% of the game wanting to bury his face in Captain Marvels ass. The ending is complete dogshit, too. It makes zero sense when you think about it and it feels super rushed as if the devs ran out of time.

You spend quite a bit of time messing around in the Hub when you really just want to get back to the battles. The game allows you to hang out with these heroes and build friendships but theres no romance when its obvious the devs wanted to include it. Graphically, its a buggy game. Caretakers eyelid flickering was really annoying especially after 60+ hours of playing the game.

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VampireCoyote
02/07/23 6:21:54 PM
#87:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I feel they did a lot of Youtube/Twitch collabs. A YouTuber I follow got to do a lot of character release info and gameplay demos and whatnot.

For how niche the genre is, pumping millions into showing it during the NFL playoffs wouldn't have paid off.

I dunno seems to me like tactical games like that would scratch a similar itch to all the fantasy football that boys play

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