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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 6:56:25 AM
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https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1622707723480563721?s=46&t=9z0Qo6SisWzGro4ggh3cgg

No accounting for taste, I guess. Hope they're right about the long tail.

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UnfairRepresent
02/07/23 6:57:53 AM
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to be fair I never heard of it until like a week ago

And I post on video game forums

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Darkninja42
02/07/23 7:00:24 AM
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Not surprising, it barely had any promotion. Companies still think you can just throw the Marvel name on anything and it's just gonna immediately sell like gangbusters. Plus tactical games aren't the easiest sells.

I'm waiting on at least a half off sale, personally

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:00:32 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
to be fair I never heard of it until like a week ago

And I post on video game forums
You must have been either blind or living under a rock because it didn't lack advertising at all

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boxoto
02/07/23 7:00:39 AM
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iirc, it hasn't come out for the PS4 or Xbone yet, so maybe it still has a chance.

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Dakimakura
02/07/23 7:01:26 AM
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What is it?

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hockeybub89
02/07/23 7:01:46 AM
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Shame, because it's great, but the game was gonna be niche no matter what license it has

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:02:25 AM
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boxoto posted...
iirc, it hasn't come out for the PS4 or Xbone yet, so maybe it still has a chance.
Yup same for Switch

Dakimakura posted...
What is it?
Tactical card game based on Marvel characters from the makers of Xcom

hockeybub89 posted...
Shame, because it's great, but the game was gonna be niche no matter what license it has
Absolutely true, people were predicting this before

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TheSavageDragon
02/07/23 7:02:52 AM
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I mean.....it's a turnbased RPG using a card system. You can slap a dozen popular licenses on it and it still would be a very niche game that doesn't appeal to the vast majority of gamers.
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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/07/23 7:04:16 AM
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Its one of those game where it looks really cool until you see what gameplay is like. Doesnt mean its bad, but its for a more niche market.

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AbstraktProfSC2
02/07/23 7:05:46 AM
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gee didnt see that coming just from watching any gameplay on it

holy shit i thought it was a mobile game this entire time though lol

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MabusIncarnate
02/07/23 7:05:47 AM
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I'm gonna buy it this week, looks good.

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:07:54 AM
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AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
gee didnt see that coming just from watching any gameplay on it

holy shit i thought it was a mobile game this entire time though lol
That sounds like a you problem it doesn't look like a mobile game at all

MabusIncarnate posted...
I'm gonna buy it this week, looks good.
It's so much fun. Xcom style tactics mixed with Marvel characters and Persona-like social aspects and exploration between missions.

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Jiek_Fafn
02/07/23 7:09:35 AM
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From the ads I did see, I assumed it was something along the lines of Gotham Knights

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UnfairRepresent
02/07/23 7:12:01 AM
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SenlinDescends posted...
You must have been either blind or living under a rock because it didn't lack advertising at all
Guessing it targeted children then

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:12:47 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Guessing it targeted children then
Nope

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alphagamble
02/07/23 7:13:22 AM
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I might have been interested if it wasn't all MCU characters

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:15:54 AM
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alphagamble posted...
I might have been interested if it wasn't all MCU characters
It's not. Several characters aren't in the MCU at all(some haven't even been in a movie yet) and the ones that are aren't based on the MCU versions at all.

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Prismsblade
02/07/23 7:17:42 AM
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Lack of Promotion aside it released alongside other AAA titles like GoW, and sonic frontiers. It never stood a chance.

And gameplay wise I still have no idea why they decided to make the combat card based. Not saying it was done poorly or anything but it was still a odd choice.

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:19:36 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
Lack of Promotion aside it released alongside other AAA titles like GoW, and sonic frontiers. It never stood a chance.

And gameplay wise I still have no idea why they decided to make the combat card based. Not saying it was done poorly or anything but it was still a odd choice.
I mean, I think card based makes sense for the superhero themes. Lets them get across a lot more of the personality and fighting styles for individual characters while keeping some balance and tactics.

The only thing I wish they'd done is team ups that are more than just a static animation and one big hit, but I'm also still early in the game.

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cjsdowg
02/07/23 7:24:39 AM
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Look at how people on games faqs did no about. We are on a fucking message board about video game cheats. If we didn't now. How could the masses.

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Raikuro
02/07/23 7:25:13 AM
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I'd have gotten it if it didn't make me wait for the rest of the game in the form of dlc
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Senta
02/07/23 7:27:32 AM
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Raikuro posted...
I'd have gotten it if it didn't make me wait for the rest of the game in the form of dlc

I mean, its extra characters, with a separate side story for them. The game is full and in depth without the DLC.

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hockeybub89
02/07/23 7:29:21 AM
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Senta posted...
I mean, its extra characters, with a separate side story for them. The game is full and in depth without the DLC.
Some people literally think all DLC is cut content.

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:31:05 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Some people literally think all DLC is cut content.
And no amount of explaining will tell them otherwise

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Raikuro
02/07/23 7:32:08 AM
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If I have to wait months for dlc, I'd rather just wait months to buy it. Storm is not optional for me.
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alphagamble
02/07/23 7:35:14 AM
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SenlinDescends posted...
It's not. Several characters aren't in the MCU at all(some haven't even been in a movie yet) and the ones that are aren't based on the MCU versions at all.
Just feels like they missed a good opportunity to put in some variety from Spider-Man or X-Men

The Avengers were always second tier in my eyes

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BuzzKilljoy
02/07/23 7:36:27 AM
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Never heard of it

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Tenlaar
02/07/23 7:37:08 AM
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I also dont remember seeing anything about it until it was already out, and its a game that is very much up my alley. Its on my wishlist waiting for a good sale.
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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:37:31 AM
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alphagamble posted...
Just feels like they missed a good opportunity to put in some variety from Spider-Man or X-Men

The Avengers were always second tier in my eyes
There definitely are a couple I'd have liked to see from the darker side of Marvel, but at least they got one of my absolute favorite underrated characters with Nico.

Who else would you have preferred?

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UnfairRepresent
02/07/23 7:40:37 AM
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SenlinDescends posted...
e darker side of Marvel,
Isn't that just DC

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Sajo
02/07/23 7:42:12 AM
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It's justified IMO.

Game's like 6/10 for me. Graphical glitches galore, boring combat/gameplay, rinse and repeat mission structure, boring storyline etc.

Honestly feels like they were going to make a mobile game/phone game and someone said "no put it on consoles". There are a bunch of "resources" that you accumulate, "structures" you are time gated on, a flimsy ass relationship/friendship system, etc.

I understand I'm not the target audience but I also don't understand how some people here are saying it's their game of the year.

I got it on sale and I regret the purchase. Only got it because the guy I do my podcast with wanted to do a review on it.

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Nukazie
02/07/23 7:47:25 AM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
I mean.....it's a turnbased RPG using a card system.
what the hell did they expect lol


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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:48:46 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Isn't that just DC
No? Marvel has a ton of stuff on the darker side. I mean hell, they just introduced Man-Thing and Werewolf By Night into the MCU. I'm a bit surprised this didn't have either of those, or Elsa Bloodstone, though I like that they don't have the same Ghost Rider as normal.

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Oh_Boy_
02/07/23 7:49:58 AM
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Darkninja42 posted...
Not surprising, it barely had any promotion. Companies still think you can just throw the Marvel name on anything and it's just gonna immediately sell like gangbusters. Plus tactical games aren't the easiest sells.

I'm waiting on at least a half off sale, personally

Marvel hasn't been an attraction in gaming since the first Ultimate Alliance and when MVC3 let everyone down.
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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:50:19 AM
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Sajo posted...
Game's like 6/10 for me. Graphical glitches galore, boring combat/gameplay, rinse and repeat mission structure, boring storyline etc.
I haven't encountered a single graphical glitch, the combat is fantastic, the mission structure is no more rinse/repeat than Xcom 2, and the storyline is fine for what it is.

Sajo posted...
Honestly feels like they were going to make a mobile game/phone game and someone said "no put it on consoles". There are a bunch of "resources" that you accumulate, "structures" you are time gated on, a flimsy ass relationship/friendship system, etc.
Oh no not resources, Xcom 2 didn't have those.....or timed construction.....

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 7:50:43 AM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
Marvel hasn't been an attraction in gaming since the first Ultimate Alliance and when MVC3 let everyone down.
MVC3 didn't really let everyone down though, that was more MVCI

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BaphometFlux
02/07/23 8:07:15 AM
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Game was going to fail the moment people realized it had a card game system.

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Vegy
02/07/23 8:09:15 AM
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I had no idea dis existed, i might give it a try after HL tbh

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MaxEffingBemis
02/07/23 8:09:26 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

This, Magik best girl. Should have just let me date her

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 8:10:30 AM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
This, Magik best girl. Should have just let me date her
Excuse me? Nico best girl, clearly

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LeCh0nk
02/07/23 8:11:37 AM
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I really enjoyed the combat. The problem is pacing. Having to do Abbey shit between every mission (even side missions) gets old really quick.

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 8:15:15 AM
#44:


LeCh0nk posted...
I really enjoyed the combat. The problem is pacing. Having to do Abbey shit between every mission (even side missions) gets old really quick.
For me, it really just needed something that let you go through a menu to do it when you don't want to wander around.

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MaxEffingBemis
02/07/23 8:49:00 AM
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SenlinDescends posted...
Excuse me? Nico best girl, clearly
Nico close second. She rules. I appreciate this game for highlighting her and Magik and some other characters that dont get any shine

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Jagr_68
02/07/23 8:49:16 AM
#46:


SenlinDescends posted...
Tactical card game based on Marvel characters from the makers of Xcom

oh gee how could this flop
impossible I tell ye

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voldothegr8
02/07/23 8:55:03 AM
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Critical success yet commercial flop. So the checks cleared but nobody biting lol.

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dancing_cactuar
02/07/23 9:01:44 AM
#48:


SenlinDescends posted...
Tactical card game based on Marvel characters
I truly do wonder why it flopped. Complete mystery.

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SenlinDescends
02/07/23 9:06:21 AM
#49:


voldothegr8 posted...
Critical success yet commercial flop. So the checks cleared but nobody biting lol.
Not surprising that Voldo still thinks companies paid for reviews lol

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voldothegr8
02/07/23 9:08:10 AM
#50:


SenlinDescends posted...
Not surprising that Voldo still thinks companies paid for reviews lol
You must be a blast at parties

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