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SenlinDescends
02/14/23 10:02:27 AM
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If he had properly intervened in the railworkers strike and listened to their complaints rather than just illegitimately shutting them out this might have been avoided. We need to nationalize our railroads.

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NeonTentacles
02/14/23 10:04:45 AM
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Way to go Joe

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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 10:05:42 AM
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Did you email the whitehouse about this?
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Doom_Art
02/14/23 10:10:26 AM
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Seems like a bit of a reach imho

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Dakimakura
02/14/23 10:11:18 AM
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Impeach Biden and let mommy AOC be President next time

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Gritty
02/14/23 10:12:02 AM
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Ok?
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CountDrugula
02/14/23 10:12:09 AM
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I blame DeWine and Norfolk Southern more, but the rail strike shit definitely has its part too, so fuck shit for brains Biden too.

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SenlinDescends
02/14/23 10:13:08 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Seems like a bit of a reach imho
It is, but still valid. Shit like this is a huge part of why the strike was a thing. And Biden just ignored it because it threatened the economy.

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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 10:13:12 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Seems like a bit of a reach imho

Not in the least if you even took a few simple minutes to look at what happened:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/11/ohio-train-derailment-wake-up-call


Ineffective oversight and a largely self-monitoring industry that has cut the nations rail workforce to the bone in recent years as it puts record profits over safety is responsible for the wreck, said Ron Kaminkow, an Amtrak locomotive engineer and former Norfolk Southern freight engineer.

The Railroad Workers United pinned the threat on rail industry cuts to inspection staff and the elimination of safety protocol. The East Palestine train was hurried, the non-profit said in a statement, and though a cause hasnt been fully determined, it appears the train was not properly inspected.
Rail companies laid off more than 20,000 rail workers during a year period in 2018-2019, representing the biggest layoffs in rail since the Great Recession, and the nations rail force has dipped below 200,000 the lowest level ever, and down from 1 million at its peak.

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/those-live-near
-railroad-tracks-concerned-after-latest-ohio-derailment/
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They've cut the manpower down to bare bones so they expect one or two people to go from inspecting a car from three minutes down to 90 seconds, he said.

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GreenCookie
02/14/23 10:13:19 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Seems like a bit of a reach imho

Yeah! You can only blame the people in charge when it's the party you don't like! DUHHH

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CommonStar
02/14/23 10:13:38 AM
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Yeah shutting down the railroad strikes instead of pressuring the railroad companies into compromising with its workers is so shitty. They weren't even asking for much either.

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Aztex
02/14/23 10:14:25 AM
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Sloppy Joe strikes again

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Doom_Art
02/14/23 10:14:50 AM
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SenlinDescends posted...
It is
hmmm

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ZevLoveDOOM
02/14/23 10:14:55 AM
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goddammit Brandon...

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SenlinDescends
02/14/23 10:15:08 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yup. I lost a LOT of respect for AOC.

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CountDrugula
02/14/23 10:15:38 AM
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Yeah shes a dumb hoe

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Questionmarktarius
02/14/23 10:17:08 AM
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Should have just let them strike.
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NeonTentacles
02/14/23 10:17:10 AM
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Regardless I'd still fuck AOC

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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 10:17:36 AM
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Doom_Art posted... hmmm

Railroad workers: we are worked to the bone! we will strike to fix this!

Biden: stop that strike!

Reporters: turns out the inspectors were so overworked they did not get to inspect the car that derailed

Doom_Art: Biden is innocent! Leave him alone!
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ElMaton04
02/14/23 10:18:38 AM
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CommonStar posted...
Yeah shutting down the railroad strikes instead of pressuring the railroad companies into compromising with its workers is so shitty. They weren't even asking for much either.

Is that what actually happened? Sorry I don't know what's really going on.
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CountDrugula
02/14/23 10:19:33 AM
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Not entirely. NS knew there was a burning axel on the train and did nothing to stop it.

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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 10:19:40 AM
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ElMaton04 posted...
Is that what actually happened? Sorry I don't know what's really going on.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

Biden signs bill to block U.S. railroad strike

President Joe Biden signed legislation Friday to block a national U.S. railroad strike that could have devastated the American economy.
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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 10:21:51 AM
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CountDrugula posted...
Not entirely. NS knew there was a burning axel on the train and did nothing to stop it.

So what would a worker who knows their working conditions are like this do fight their executives on stuff like this?

Strikes right?
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tripleh213
02/14/23 10:22:02 AM
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He really dropped the ball on this

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thronedfire2
02/14/23 10:22:20 AM
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You greatly overestimate how quickly any changes would have actually happened if he let the strike continue

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SenlinDescends
02/14/23 10:23:07 AM
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CountDrugula posted...
Not entirely. NS knew there was a burning axel on the train and did nothing to stop it.
This is what they were striking about though - overworked, understaffed, with unsafe conditions and poor pay.

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Heineken14
02/14/23 10:23:07 AM
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While I do believe he shares responsibility, I'm also not silly and naive enough to not vote for him again in 2024.

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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 10:23:11 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
You greatly overestimate how quickly any changes would have actually happened if he let the strike continue

Not at all. The whole reason he stopped the strike is because the whole country would be disrupted FORCING concessions to the workers because everyone would feel the pain.
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Gwynevere
02/14/23 10:23:12 AM
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His handling of the railroad strike was abysmal. He's definitely partly to blame, but just as a most recent contributor. You can thank decades of union busting politicians for their cumulative impact on the situation we're seeing today

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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 10:25:16 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
His handling of the railroad strike was abysmal. He's definitely partly to blame, but just as a most recent contributor. You can thank decades of union busting politicians for their cumulative impact on the situation we're seeing today

This is a poor mindset. You vote in a guy who is supposed to be better than those guys before and you get a moment to fix those decades of union busting policies and the guy sides against it.
But then we are like "but we shouldn't blame him too much...."

No sorry.
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SenlinDescends
02/14/23 10:25:20 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
You greatly overestimate how quickly any changes would have actually happened if he let the strike continue
Nah that's where I'm exaggerating. He probably couldn't have prevented this, but this is proof of why he acted wrong.

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CountDrugula
02/14/23 10:26:44 AM
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https://www.tiktok.com/@tomgreen/video/7199734910050127150?lang=en

Tom Green is the fucking man. 100% on the money with this.

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StarDestroyer
02/14/23 10:34:55 AM
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Biden's America
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agoat
02/14/23 10:36:03 AM
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Still not voting for the right, but yeah Biden needs to get on top of this.

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SenlinDescends
02/14/23 10:38:03 AM
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agoat posted...
Still not voting for the right, but yeah Biden needs to get on top of this.
Oh definitely. Because we're cattle essentially given one real choice for president.

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CyricZ
02/14/23 10:39:47 AM
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I'll allow it.

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ElMaton04
02/14/23 10:43:34 AM
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Now I know what is going on, this just come to show that the government ain't your friend regardless of the party.
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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 10:46:26 AM
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ElMaton04 posted...
Now I know what is going on, this just come to show that the government ain't your friend regardless of the party.

After Joe BROKE the strikes he then had the gall to call himself the "The Most Pro-Union President Youve Ever Seen"

Like literally right after he made it illegal for them to strike....

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Returning_CEmen
02/14/23 10:51:53 AM
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CommonStar posted...
Yeah shutting down the railroad strikes instead of pressuring the railroad companies into compromising with its workers is so shitty. They weren't even asking for much either.
This, all they wanted was basic shit most other jobs give to their employees

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MaxEffingBemis
02/14/23 10:56:40 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Seems like a bit of a reach imho
You would have this opinion

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divot1338
02/14/23 11:11:23 AM
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SenlinDescends posted...
If he had properly intervened in the railworkers strike and listened to their complaints rather than just illegitimately shutting them out this might have been avoided. We need to nationalize our railroads.
This would in no way have been avoided. Youre obviously free to blame whoever you want butt you should at least recognize you just want to blame Biden.

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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 11:16:20 AM
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since when did Biden get a cult of his own?
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A_Good_Boy
02/14/23 11:19:55 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
This is a poor mindset. You vote in a guy who is supposed to be better than those guys before and you get a moment to fix those decades of union busting policies and the guy sides against it.
But then we are like "but we shouldn't blame him too much...."

No sorry.
Biden wasn't voted in because he'd be better than "those" guys. He was voted in cause he was going to uphold the status quo and give the country a semblance of normalcy after years of Trump's derangement and mishandling of covid. Shitty stuff like siding with Train execs instead of worker's rights actually is the status quo.

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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 11:20:40 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Biden wasn't voted in because he'd be better than "those" guys. He was voted in cause he was going to uphold the status quo and give the country a semblance of normalcy after years of Trump's derangement and mishandling of covid. Shitty stuff like siding with Train execs instead of worker's rights actually is the status quo.

So you are saying he is to blame?
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Autocraticus
02/14/23 11:22:55 AM
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Biden and not Buttigieg?
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kage_53
02/14/23 11:23:39 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

That bill never made sense. Its an actual first amendment violation.
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WingsOfGood
02/14/23 11:24:00 AM
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Autocraticus posted...
Biden and not Buttigieg?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

Biden signs bill to block U.S. railroad strike

President Joe Biden signed legislation Friday to block a national U.S. railroad strike that could have devastated the American economy.

Care to elaborate?
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