Poll of the Day > So Russia, China, and potentially Iran are finished.

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wpot 02/21/23 4:08:45 PM #51:	Ozmose posted... Do you really not think you're being fed propaganda? The government has used the media as it's own personal arm for every conflict in modern history, but somehow this time is different? No source is 100% reliable, no. But you're trying to convince us of 8:1. 8:1...really? Don't you need to be on the watch for propaganda as well? This can't-remember-who-it-is reliable source of yours is definitely propaganda-free? You're digging yourself a deeper hole here. --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:971716692] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>Do you really not think you're being fed propaganda? The government has used the media as it's own personal arm for every conflict in modern history, but somehow this time is different?</quote>No source is 100% reliable, no.But you're trying to convince us of 8:1. 8:1...really? Don't you need to be on the watch for propaganda as well? This can't-remember-who-it-is reliable source of yours is definitely propaganda-free? You're digging yourself a deeper hole here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozmose 02/21/23 4:27:28 PM #52:	wpot posted... No source is 100% reliable, no. But you're trying to convince us of 8:1. 8:1...really? Don't you need to be on the watch for propaganda as well? This can't-remember-who-it-is reliable source of yours is definitely propaganda-free? You're digging yourself a deeper hole here. I am on the watch. Thats why I go with the person that has the least motive to lie. In the vast majority of cases thats not going to be the official narrative. Im starting to think half the people here are bots. Everyone seems way too eager to believe the front page of Google and recite it back as gospel. --- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde <cite>Ozmose posted [p:971717130] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>wpot posted... </cite><quote>No source is 100% reliable, no.But you're trying to convince us of 8:1. 8:1...really? Don't you need to be on the watch for propaganda as well? This can't-remember-who-it-is reliable source of yours is definitely propaganda-free? You're digging yourself a deeper hole here.</quote>I am on the watch. Thats why I go with the person that has the least motive to lie. In the vast majority of cases thats not going to be the official narrative. Im starting to think half the people here are bots. Everyone seems way too eager to believe the front page of Google and recite it back as gospel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 02/21/23 4:30:18 PM #53:	Ozmose posted... I am on the watch. Thats why I go with the person that has the least motive to lie. In the vast majority of cases thats not going to be the official narrative. Im starting to think half the people here are bots. Everyone seems way too eager to believe the front page of Google and recite it back as gospel. ...Huh people joked about PotD being just one person with a bunch of alts. I've never seen someone actually consider it. <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:971717201] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>I am on the watch. Thats why I go with the person that has the least motive to lie. In the vast majority of cases thats not going to be the official narrative. Im starting to think half the people here are bots. Everyone seems way too eager to believe the front page of Google and recite it back as gospel.</quote>...Huh people joked about PotD being just one person with a bunch of alts. I've never seen someone actually consider it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wpot 02/21/23 4:36:35 PM #54:	Ozmose posted... Thats why I go with the person that has the least motive to lie. How do you know this unknown person is who they claim to be? Or that they were quoted correctly? Major news sources certainly aren't bias free, but there are a number of processes (formal and informal) in place to check what they are saying...even if it's only a newspaper of a different polarization. Random unaffiliated sources on the internet with no known check processes are much more likely to have blatantly incorrect information. It sounds like you trust the latter simply because anything must be better than the major sources with their known problems? That's throwing the baby out with the bathwater: unknown problems are typically far worse. Getting people to disbelieve the main sources of information in our society because of their imperfections (and to instead believe much less accurate sources because "they're all wrong so you might as well go with the news you like") was Trump's greatest "success". --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:971717323] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>Thats why I go with the person that has the least motive to lie.</quote>How do you know this unknown person is who they claim to be? Or that they were quoted correctly?Major news sources certainly aren't bias free, but there are a number of processes (formal and informal) in place to check what they are saying...even if it's only a newspaper of a different polarization. Random unaffiliated sources on the internet with no known check processes are much more likely to have blatantly incorrect information. It sounds like you trust the latter simply because anything must be better than the major sources with their known problems? That's throwing the baby out with the bathwater: unknown problems are typically far worse.Getting people to disbelieve the main sources of information in our society because of their imperfections (and to instead believe much less accurate sources because "they're all wrong so you might as well go with the news you like") was Trump's greatest "success".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozmose 02/21/23 5:29:28 PM #55:	wpot posted... Getting people to disbelieve the main sources of information in our society because of their imperfections. Consistently lying and publishing other peoples lies is not an imperfection. Its an outright failure. Its like having your partner cheat on you hundreds of times, then get insulted that you dont trust them anymore. Theyre sooooo eager to get the story out first that they could care less whether its actually true or not. The recent balloon bullshit is a perfect example. They went from Once we discovered it we had wait for a safe place to shoot it down to We were tracking it from the moment it launched from China in what, less than a week? --- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde <cite>Ozmose posted [p:971718432] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>wpot posted... </cite><quote>Getting people to disbelieve the main sources of information in our society because of their imperfections.</quote>Consistently lying and publishing other peoples lies is not an imperfection. Its an outright failure. Its like having your partner cheat on you hundreds of times, then get insulted that you dont trust them anymore. Theyre sooooo eager to get the story out first that they could care less whether its actually true or not. The recent balloon bullshit is a perfect example. They went from Once we discovered it we had wait for a safe place to shoot it down to We were tracking it from the moment it launched from China in what, less than a week?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Thunder 02/21/23 5:55:18 PM #56:	Ozmose posted... They went from Once we discovered it we had wait for a safe place to shoot it down to We were tracking it from the moment it launched from China in what, less than a week? These aren't contradictory statements. Shooting it down anywhere other than within US/CA sovereign airspace would have made the US look sus, diplomatically. And it's not like it's a good idea to shoot down such a large balloon over populated land. --- Resident Synthwave enjoyer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SYUwGoheac <cite>Blue_Thunder posted [p:971719019] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted...</cite><quote>They went from Once we discovered it we had wait for a safe place to shoot it down to We were tracking it from the moment it launched from China in what, less than a week?</quote>These aren't contradictory statements. Shooting it down anywhere other than within US/CA sovereign airspace would have made the US look sus, diplomatically. And it's not like it's a good idea to shoot down such a large balloon over populated land.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozmose 02/21/23 6:07:48 PM #57:	Blue_Thunder posted... These aren't contradictory statements. Shooting it down anywhere other than within US/CA sovereign airspace would have made the US look sus, diplomatically. And it's not like it's a good idea to shoot down such a large balloon over populated land. They literally watched it pass right over massive swaths of uninhabited land over Alaska. It then passed through Canada and down into Montana. Last I checked, Alaska would be considered US airspace. --- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde <cite>Ozmose posted [p:971719227] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Thunder posted... </cite><quote>These aren't contradictory statements. Shooting it down anywhere other than within US/CA sovereign airspace would have made the US look sus, diplomatically. And it's not like it's a good idea to shoot down such a large balloon over populated land.</quote>They literally watched it pass right over massive swaths of uninhabited land over Alaska. It then passed through Canada and down into Montana. Last I checked, Alaska would be considered US airspace. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 02/21/23 6:44:37 PM #58:	This thread is fucked for me for some reason. I'm at 10 posts per page and some pages have like 4 posts on them --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:971719970] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>This thread is fucked for me for some reason. I'm at 10 posts per page and some pages have like 4 posts on them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/21/23 6:47:37 PM #59:	Zareth posted... This thread is fucked for me for some reason. I'm at 10 posts per page and some pages have like 4 posts on them This entire page.... I can only see YOUR post --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:971720033] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>This thread is fucked for me for some reason. I'm at 10 posts per page and some pages have like 4 posts on them</quote>This entire page.... I can only see YOUR post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus 02/21/23 9:32:11 PM #60:	Zareth posted... This thread is fucked for me for some reason. I'm at 10 posts per page and some pages have like 4 posts on them Lokarin posted... This entire page.... I can only see YOUR post Ozzy probably has you cats on ignore. Anytime Ozzy gets outsmarted in an argument they throw the block down so they can stay in their cozy little echo chamber safe space. Say what you will about Zeus waiting 2 weeks for a topic to die down before trying to sneak in the last word and "win" the argument, at least he's not so scared of other people's thoughts and responses that he feels the need to ignore them --- What's better than roses on your piano? A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again... <cite>MeatiestMeatus posted [p:971723109] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted...<quote>This thread is fucked for me for some reason. I'm at 10 posts per page and some pages have like 4 posts on them</quote>Lokarin posted...<quote>This entire page.... I can only see YOUR post</quote>Ozzy probably has you cats on ignore. Anytime Ozzy gets outsmarted in an argument they throw the block down so they can stay in their cozy little echo chamber safe space.Say what you will about Zeus waiting 2 weeks for a topic to die down before trying to sneak in the last word and "win" the argument, at least he's not so scared of other people's thoughts and responses that he feels the need to ignore them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 02/21/23 9:37:54 PM #61:	I thought Ozmose was Zeus --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:971723214] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>I thought Ozmose was Zeus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grendel_Prime 02/21/23 9:50:54 PM #62:	Ozmose posted... I didn't post a link because I can't remember where I read it. Convenient. Resorting to insulting my intelligence and trying to belittle me for what you perceive as youthful navet might help to mend your bruised ego, but you've still provided no sources for any point you're attempting to make. I'm certain I consume a fair amount of propaganda with my news. Which is why I always read news from multiple sources and cross-examine anything that seems worth delving into. Add to this that I'm former military myself. My brother, cousin, and many friends are still serving. There's no good reason to believe this mystery unnamed Colonel of yours would lie any more or any less than Gen Milley or any other high-ranking member of the military. But please, continue to deflect and avoid providing any sources. By all means. Shows how well-informed you are. --- http://i.imgur.com/ocx9d7F.gifv <cite>Grendel_Prime posted [p:971723455] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>I didn't post a link because I can't remember where I read it.</quote>Convenient. Resorting to insulting my intelligence and trying to belittle me for what you perceive as youthful navet might help to mend your bruised ego, but you've still provided no sources for any point you're attempting to make. I'm certain I consume a fair amount of propaganda with my news. Which is why I always read news from multiple sources and cross-examine anything that seems worth delving into. Add to this that I'm former military myself. My brother, cousin, and many friends are still serving. There's no good reason to believe this mystery unnamed Colonel of yours would lie any more or any less than Gen Milley or any other high-ranking member of the military. But please, continue to deflect and avoid providing any sources. By all means. Shows how well-informed you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/21/23 9:54:50 PM #63:	Zeus doesn't have me on block (that I know of), cuz I'm one of the few that kinda likes Zeus (gaming related) --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:971723522] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Zeus doesn't have me on block (that I know of), cuz I'm one of the few that kinda likes Zeus (gaming related)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 02/22/23 12:23:45 AM #64:	Who the fuck is ozzy? TC? I can see his posts. --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:971725744] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Who the fuck is ozzy? TC? I can see his posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 02/22/23 12:28:10 AM #65:	Osmosis Jones --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:971725816] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Osmosis Jones</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 02/22/23 12:29:21 AM #66:	Ozmose posted... I didn't post a link because I can't remember where I read it. You can post whatever you want. My point is you're dumb to trust it. I'm guessing you're too young to remember when every "reputable source" out there was saying Iraq was full of WMDs. I'll trust retired military any day over active when it comes to media. They still have connections to intelligence but they aren't bound to following orders. BTW the entire first deployment from Russia was less than 130,000 troops the vast majority of which were not engaged in front line combat. Even less in the current wave, mostly rocket and artillery units are being used. So yeah, 100,000+ Russian casualties. Totally believable. Do you really not think you're being fed propaganda? The government has used the media as it's own personal arm for every conflict in modern history, but somehow this time is different? "Trust me, bro" In other words this former colonel doesn't actually exist. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:971725831] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted...</cite><quote>I didn't post a link because I can't remember where I read it. You can post whatever you want. My point is you're dumb to trust it. I'm guessing you're too young to remember when every "reputable source" out there was saying Iraq was full of WMDs. I'll trust retired military any day over active when it comes to media. They still have connections to intelligence but they aren't bound to following orders. BTW the entire first deployment from Russia was less than 130,000 troops the vast majority of which were not engaged in front line combat. Even less in the current wave, mostly rocket and artillery units are being used. So yeah, 100,000+ Russian casualties. Totally believable. Do you really not think you're being fed propaganda? The government has used the media as it's own personal arm for every conflict in modern history, but somehow this time is different?</quote>"Trust me, bro" In other words this former colonel doesn't actually exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 02/22/23 12:32:53 AM #67:	I guess they are blocking me lmao get wrecked --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:971725875] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>I guess they are blocking melmao get wrecked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wpot 02/22/23 1:04:18 AM #68:	Ozmose posted... They went from Once we discovered it we had wait for a safe place to shoot it down to We were tracking it from the moment it launched from China in what, less than a week? Yes, the story developed. Yes, there was likely some misdirection and spin all of the way through. But the mainstream media corrected itself over time, didn't it? You seem to have accepted the final facts they gave you, didn't you (if not their analysis of them)? For your point to make sense wouldn't a different form of media need to have given us better info? And even if we don't believe a single word of the mainstream I still see no logic that leads us to believe random people on the internet. It's just magical thinking. --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:971726325] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Ozmose posted... </cite><quote>They went from Once we discovered it we had wait for a safe place to shoot it down to We were tracking it from the moment it launched from China in what, less than a week?</quote>Yes, the story developed. Yes, there was likely some misdirection and spin all of the way through. But the mainstream media corrected itself over time, didn't it? You seem to have accepted the final facts they gave you, didn't you (if not their analysis of them)? For your point to make sense wouldn't a different form of media need to have given us better info? And even if we don't believe a single word of the mainstream I still see no logic that leads us to believe random people on the internet. It's just magical thinking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 02/22/23 1:10:11 AM #69:	Miroku_of_Nite1 posted... Sweet another "Two more weeks until Russia/China collapse" topic. --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:971726382] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Miroku_of_Nite1 posted... </cite><quote>Sweet another "Two more weeks until Russia/China collapse" topic.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 02/22/23 3:26:33 AM #70:	Not sure what you mean by "finished." All those countries have major challenges in their near/immediate future. Russia will have the hardest. But "finished"? --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:971727456] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Not sure what you mean by "finished." All those countries have major challenges in their near/immediate future. Russia will have the hardest. But "finished"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingDavid 02/22/23 9:54:10 PM #71:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... Not sure what you mean by "finished." All those countries have major challenges in their near/immediate future. Russia will have the hardest. But "finished"? What I mean by "finished" is that their status as an American adversary and as a major world power will be gone soon. <cite>KingDavid posted [p:971745627] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>Not sure what you mean by "finished." All those countries have major challenges in their near/immediate future. Russia will have the hardest. But "finished"?</quote>What I mean by "finished" is that their status as an American adversary and as a major world power will be gone soon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 02/22/23 10:48:36 PM #72:	Theoretically there should be 21 posts on this page and I only see 11... Is Ozmose talking to himself? I imagine that is the only way he can find someone willing to cater to his world view. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:971746611] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Theoretically there should be 21 posts on this page and I only see 11... Is Ozmose talking to himself? I imagine that is the only way he can find someone willing to cater to his world view. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 02/22/23 11:02:41 PM #73:	Other people quoting him --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:971746865] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Other people quoting him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 02/22/23 11:03:50 PM #74:	Metalsonic66 posted... Other people quoting him Ah I forgot it blocked quotes. I logged out to see what was going on, and I see he's still making stuff up and getting angry when people don't believe him. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:971746886] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Metalsonic66 posted... </cite><quote>Other people quoting him</quote>Ah I forgot it blocked quotes. I logged out to see what was going on, and I see he's still making stuff up and getting angry when people don't believe him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 02/23/23 12:01:17 AM #75:	BlackScythe0 posted... I logged out to see what was going on, and I see he's still making stuff up and getting angry when people don't believe him. Same. Motherfucker says Russians are killing Ukranians at a faster rate than even Russian propaganda is saying lol --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:971747768] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>I logged out to see what was going on, and I see he's still making stuff up and getting angry when people don't believe him.</quote>Same.Motherfucker says Russians are killing Ukranians at a faster rate than even Russian propaganda is saying lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 02/23/23 12:02:17 AM #76:	Even Rev was calling him on his bs that actually shocked me. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:971747784] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Even Rev was calling him on his bs that actually shocked me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 02/23/23 1:48:49 AM #77:	BlackScythe0 posted... Even Rev was calling him on his bs that actually shocked me. Why would I support Russia? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:971748904] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite><quote>Even Rev was calling him on his bs that actually shocked me. </quote>Why would I support Russia?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 02/23/23 3:02:14 AM #78:	Revelation34 posted... Why would I support Russia? What kind of posts do you normally make here? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:971749479] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Why would I support Russia?</quote>What kind of posts do you normally make here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 02/23/23 3:05:14 AM #79:	BlackScythe0 posted... What kind of posts do you normally make here? I have never supported Russia invading Ukraine in any of my posts. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:971749513] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite><quote>What kind of posts do you normally make here?</quote>I have never supported Russia invading Ukraine in any of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 02/23/23 3:07:57 AM #80:	Revelation34 posted... I have never supported Russia invading Ukraine in any of my posts. You typically engage in right wing shit posts, and pro-russia is what all the people drinking the Trump kool-aid are into now days. I was shocked that you weren't engaged in the group think I'm so accustomed to seeing in my day to day life. (I live in one of the most conservative states in the country and hear some really awful stuff on a daily basis) <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:971749536] in So Russia,... [t:80352150]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>I have never supported Russia invading Ukraine in any of my posts.</quote>You typically engage in right wing shit posts, and pro-russia is what all the people drinking the Trump kool-aid are into now days. I was shocked that you weren't engaged in the group think I'm so accustomed to seeing in my day to day life. (I live in one of the most conservative states in the country and hear some really awful stuff on a daily basis)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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