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Dan_Haren- 02/19/23 8:33:25 PM #1: |
By aggressively throwing criminals in jail. 2% of the population is behind bars. Japan also has low crime rates due to severe punishments for criminals. Just saying ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 02/19/23 8:34:25 PM #2: |
Japan only has a low crime rate because they don't count crimes that are Yakuza related --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssj3vegeta 02/19/23 8:34:45 PM #3: |
We can't throw da police in jail doe --- http://i.imgur.com/tvKkIcw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Kywn3Qc.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Cybsdf1.gifv http://h-7.abload.de/img/messi02-rm-ucl3ngb.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/19/23 8:35:08 PM #4: |
"Here's an anecdote of one country with no source or comparative statistics to draw a conclusion from Just saying" --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 02/19/23 8:35:49 PM #5: |
Yes I'm sure our already over capacity prisons and jails could accommodate a couple million more inmates no biggie --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 02/19/23 8:36:26 PM #6: |
America has more people locked up than literally every other country so idk what you want. Clearly locking people up doesn't solve much of anything when it comes to crime rates --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dan_Haren- 02/19/23 8:36:32 PM #7: |
Doe posted... "Here's an anecdote of one country with no source or comparative statistics to draw a conclusion from https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2022/04/30/el-salvadors-president-has-locked-up-19000-people-in-a-month https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2023/02/16/latin-americas-prisons-are-overcrowded-and-violent There's your sources ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dan_Haren- 02/19/23 8:37:07 PM #8: |
Blue_Inigo posted... America has more people locked up than literally every other country so idk what you want. Clearly locking people up doesn't solve anything By number not by percentage. And that's just a factor of our population. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 02/19/23 8:38:02 PM #9: |
ah yes, but Dr. Salvador has doubled his homocide rate --- The stone that fell is still falling, so let that stone be a wondrous thing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 02/19/23 8:38:22 PM #11: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Would get blocked by the SCOTUS --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 02/19/23 8:42:13 PM #13: |
Dan_Haren- posted... https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2022/04/30/el-salvadors-president-has-locked-up-19000-people-in-a-monthThere's no mention in these articles of the murder rate being reduced, but there is mention of the significant problems caused by pursuing such a policy --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the_pika 02/19/23 8:43:11 PM #14: |
Dan_Haren- posted... By aggressively throwing criminals in jail. 2% of the population is behind bars. theyre locking up violent criminals, though, not random minorities and jaywalkers, big difference ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ooooooranges 02/19/23 8:46:56 PM #15: |
What exactly is the point of this thread? --- http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/2011/10/10/pujols_85507.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dan_Haren- 02/19/23 8:47:29 PM #16: |
Intro2Logic posted... There's no mention in these articles of the murder rate being reduced, but there is mention of the significant problems caused by pursuing such a policy Look at the second one. In a region with high crime rates, citizens have long favoured their leaders treating suspected criminals with mano dura, or an iron fist. The most extreme example of this is in El Salvador. In March 2022 a state of emergency was declared by President Nayib Bukele, after a spike of gang-related killings. Some 100,000 people, or 2% of Salvadorean adults, are now behind bars. The countrys homicide rate has halved. Mr Bukeles approval rating is a whopping 90%, the highest in the region. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dan_Haren- 02/19/23 8:49:07 PM #17: |
Breh everything I post is always backed by facts. I've never fudged numbers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 02/19/23 8:55:37 PM #18: |
ssj3vegeta posted... We can't throw da police in jail doeIts true though. Whether you agree wth what theyre doing or not, the group of Americans that kill more people than anyone else per capita is cops. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/19/23 8:58:26 PM #19: |
On April 24th the Legislative Assembly, which the president controls, extended a state of emergency for a second month. Citizens are barred from gathering in groups outside. The police no longer need to give an explanation when arresting people. Since the emergency powers came into force they have rounded up more than 19,000. Doesn't seem great --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dan_Haren- 02/19/23 9:03:47 PM #20: |
These are extreme crime riddled areas. I would support that if I lived there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/19/23 9:10:19 PM #21: |
Dan_Haren- posted... These are extreme crime riddled areas. I would support that if I lived there.I can't read past that paragraph since the article is gated. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dan_Haren- 02/19/23 9:12:00 PM #22: |
A_Good_Boy posted... I can't read past that paragraph since the article is gated. From the second article I posted a quote where the presidents approval rating was 90 percent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/19/23 9:24:38 PM #23: |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%9323_Salvadoran_gang_crackdown During an extraordinary session early on 27 March, the Salvadoran Legislative Assembly approved a "state of exception".[18] The order, which was initially set to last thirty days but has been extended twice,[19] suspended the rights of association and legal counsel, increased the amount of time that persons may be detained without being charged from three days to fifteen, and permitted the government to monitor citizens' communications without warrants.[18] However, Salvadoran law enforcement was accused of violating even the expanded limits of their powers.[11][17] The government also restricted the ability of judges to offer prisoners alternatives to pre-trial detention, like bail and house arrest.[20] Quite a few of those seem like the US. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 02/19/23 9:25:41 PM #24: |
Dan_Haren- posted... Japan also has low crime rates due to severe punishments for criminals.There's literally an entire game series dedicated to shitting on Japan's broken ass justice system. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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runewalshPSiv 02/19/23 9:30:44 PM #25: |
MC_BatCommander posted... Yes I'm sure our already over capacity prisons and jails could accommodate a couple million more inmates no biggie Release everyone that's in prison right now for a nonviolent drug charge and we would have plenty of room for real criminals. --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dan_Haren- 02/19/23 9:40:19 PM #26: |
I'm not saying throw everyone in prison and I agree nonviolent petty crime should not be punished harshly...especially possession of individual amounts of drugs should not be a crime. But violent criminals should be punished harshly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FigureOfSpeech 02/19/23 9:42:46 PM #27: |
It cut it is homicide rate on half? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClockworkHare 02/19/23 9:43:08 PM #28: |
Dan_Haren- posted... El Salvador cut it's homicide rate on half... My question is: what's significantly different about the prisons in those locations compared to western prisons? How do they help discourage repeated offenses? Because western prisons don't. The American prison system basically banks on and incentivizes reoffenders, hence the jokes about it being a "revolving door". --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. https://tryimg.com/u/2020/08/11/1tZ1gcH.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 02/19/23 9:44:48 PM #29: |
divot1338 posted... Its true though. Whether you agree wth what theyre doing or not, the group of Americans that kill more people than anyone else per capita is cops.And in the yearly 1,000 average police killings. An average about 950 are suspects committing a violent crime or armed with a weapon. This says more about our society being violent and dangerous to the public than cops committing mass killings --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 02/19/23 9:47:07 PM #30: |
typical dipshit maddendude topic --- https://i.imgur.com/hLHUnOI.jpg You act like I don't know my own way home ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chicken 02/19/23 9:48:38 PM #31: |
viewmaster_pi posted... ah yes, but Dr. Salvador has doubled his homocide rate --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the_pika 02/19/23 9:54:57 PM #32: |
the_pika posted... theyre locking up violent criminals, though, not random minorities and jaywalkers, big difference funny how this was ignored by TC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FigureOfSpeech 02/19/23 9:57:03 PM #33: |
the_pika posted... funny how this was ignored by TC good point ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gritty 02/19/23 10:11:50 PM #34: |
Dan_Haren- posted... Breh everything I post is always backed by facts. I've never fudged numbers.Fuzzy math ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 02/19/23 10:13:13 PM #35: |
the_pika posted... theyre locking up violent criminals, though,Even the articles TC has cited do not assume that to be true --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the_pika 02/19/23 10:54:34 PM #36: |
Intro2Logic posted... Even the articles TC has cited do not assume that to be true so youre just gonna assume they began locking up minorities and jaywalkers ? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Takuya_Lee 02/19/23 11:09:24 PM #37: |
LordFarquad1312 posted... There's literally an entire game series dedicated to shitting on Japan's broken ass justice system. Judgment? --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Atralis 02/19/23 11:10:04 PM #38: |
Dan_Haren- posted... These are extreme crime riddled areas. I would support that if I lived there. The US still has the rule of law and people don't tattoo "I'm a criminal please kill me" all over their bodies like they do/did in El Salvador. We have a functional court system where other countries send us cartel leaders to be convicted by US juries because we still have a functioning society. That being said I can't fault El Salvador for doing what they are doing. If we reached that point I would support summarily executing every single person in a gang if jurors, cops, judges, were being killed. I think most Americans would agree if we got to the point where Mexico is at with cartels battling the army on the streets and winning some of the time we would just kill every single fucking person in the entire country suspected of being in a gang. We would kill everyone will a gang tattoo. We would be invading Mexico to kill all of them there. If people in the US were being killed on juries by cartel leaders in latin America we would be dropping fucking hydrogen bombs on latin america. We would come through like the end of fucking days killing hundreds of thousands or even millions of people until we got back to the point where a jury of Americans could try a cartel leader and convict of their crimes as we have done in the past few years. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the_pika 02/19/23 11:12:01 PM #39: |
People: Australia took back guns and shootings went away republicans; its a different country! Different culture!! That would never work here!! people: el Salvador threw a shitload of people into jail and crime went down republicans: time to round up people, boys! Yeeehaaahhh!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 02/19/23 11:28:01 PM #40: |
the_pika posted... so youre just gonna assume they began locking up minorities and jaywalkers ?Gee, I wonder if a government would ever use a massive imprisonment scheme to imprison people it doesn't like. Nah, impossible. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 02/19/23 11:33:22 PM #41: |
ssj3vegeta posted... We can't throw da police in jail doe --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aztex 02/20/23 12:06:18 AM #42: |
They locked up anyone with a gang tattoo. The ones that ran and weren't locked up at the time started causing problems and that's when they decided to starve the ones in prison. A day or so the ran sacking the whole country looking for more of them anyone hiding any would also be arrested and rewards were being given to those who reported or turned them in. It was encouraged for parents/relatives to turn in family members and they would still be rewarded. They then provided citizens with jobs to clean up the country by painting over and cleaning out gang graffiti. They even went as far as paying citizens to destroy ang related tombstones. My mother in law went last year she said it was the first time in years she was finally able to walk at night with no problems or fear of anything happening to her. Tourism has increased a lot as well. Business are doing better since majority had to pay a quota to gangs for being on "their turf" Salvadorians have also just about stopped coming to the US illegally as well since they're doing much better now. --- Hot Girls Message Board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1291-hot-girls ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShineboxPhil 02/20/23 12:08:11 AM #43: |
Do gangs like MS-13 and 18 Street have a de facto leader? --- Colorado Avalanche, Golden State Warriors, Houston Astros, Kansas City Chiefs, Real Madrid #1 Fan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Atralis 02/20/23 12:09:06 AM #44: |
ShineboxPhil posted... Do gangs like MS-13 and 18 Street have a de facto leader? Why does it matter if they have a leader? Kill every single person in the gang. Kill them all. These guys paint kill me permanently on their faces. Kill every single fucking one of them. Kill them all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 02/20/23 12:11:21 AM #45: |
LordFarquad1312 posted... There's literally an entire game series dedicated to shitting on Japan's broken ass justice system.Ace Attorney? That is a huge misconception. Takumi knew nothing about law when he made the trilogy. He made it a court setting because he originally had it as a detective game but wanted to make it more unique. https://www.tumblr.com/cloverthirteen/657974263778852864/was-ace-attorney-made-as-a-satire-on-japans-legal His Great Ace Attorney series also shitted on the English Jury system as irrational and corrupt. --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarcyWarcy 02/20/23 12:16:29 AM #47: |
little danny wants to talk about big boy things ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nexigrams 02/20/23 12:22:56 AM #48: |
"Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither." etc. and so on. Just assuming anyone the police even look at is DEFINITELY guilty like they do in Japan is not worth having a lower crime rate. --- http://imgur.com/SYiqIRC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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doomcrusader 02/20/23 12:22:59 AM #49: |
Aztex posted... They locked up anyone with a gang tattoo. The ones that ran and weren't locked up at the time started causing problems and that's when they decided to starve the ones in prison. A day or so the ran sacking the whole country looking for more of them anyone hiding any would also be arrested and rewards were being given to those who reported or turned them in. It was encouraged for parents/relatives to turn in family members and they would still be rewarded. They then provided citizens with jobs to clean up the country by painting over and cleaning out gang graffiti. They even went as far as paying citizens to destroy ang related tombstones. Wow, glad to hear it. Hopefully other countries can have the same success. People will shit on this, but desperate times require desperate measures. --- http://i.imgur.com/tqMGw.png http://i.imgur.com/IHbuM.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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