Current Events > Ohio woman killed by FAMILY pit bull as she was bringing it out for a walk

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GranolaPanic posted...

Rottweilers are just as dangerous and destructive. There was a tragic incident in Australia yesterday where 2 family Rottweilers killed a newborn.

Two Rottweilers killing a newborn baby is the same as a single pit bull killing a healthy adult woman. I am thoroughly convinced of the dangers of Rottweilers. /s

GranolaPanic posted...

So what should I do? Abandon her? She cant fend for herself and I doubt others would want to adopt her given her condition.

As long as you know the risks tbh. I dont think anyone is asking you to abandon her

SomeLikeItHoth posted...

Why does this shit keep happening

Overbreeding, sadly

Spiritlittle posted...

They're great dogs. Any breed can "snap."

I've seen more injuries from chihuahuas than pit bulls.

My dog "snapped" once and didn't rip my arm off and kill me.

It's not for the same reason, but dogs like pit bulls and bulldogs need to stop being bred.

GranolaPanic posted...

This implication that Im a bad person for simply wanting to give a dog a happy life sickens me. Theres so many rude and inconsiderate people on this board.

If you own or are aware of a pitbull, anything short of putting the beast down should be considered criminal negligence, based solely on the demonstrated risk it poses to your community.

The thing is usually pitbulls arent raised as loving, theyre often trained to guard and be protective so once you combine it with its genetic instinct to kill you get pitbulls killing and mauling their own owners some times

I guess I like pitbull topics because it's one of the few times I get to feel like one of those CEmen that get angry about everything and have beef with the slightest bit of dissent.

GranolaPanic posted...

So now I have to euthanize her when she poses no risk to my community at all? Again, shes going have a short life because of the dwarfism. Im sorry for trying to do a kind thing and help a disabled dog. I now know that Im a terrible person for doing that.

how big is she ?

future_ps3_0wn3 posted...

If you own or are aware of a pitbull, anything short of putting the beast down should be considered criminal negligence, based solely on the demonstrated risk it poses to your community.

Pit bulls are great dogs. That same logic could be applied to snakes or any non-traditional "pets."

GranolaPanic posted...

Shes the size of a smaller whippet and wont get any larger than that because of the dwarfism and weighs 19 pounds.

Id argue she cant be dangerous because of her size, pibble concerns aside, its a good argument to use with haters.

thanks for helping her

It's kind of crazy how we hype lions, tigers, and bears (oh my), and sharks as dangerous animals to be feared and stayed away from. But they kill less than pit bulls, which we bring into our homes and neighborhoods.

TheHoldSteady posted...

It's kind of crazy how we hype lions, tigers, and bears (oh my), and sharks as dangerous animals to be feared and stayed away from. But they kill less than pit bulls, which we bring into our homes and neighborhoods.

That's hyperbole to the max, dawg. A dog is a pet, the others are wild animals.

All about how you raise them. I've had plenty of pit bulls over the years, and there the best dogs imaginable. Would never have another breed.

My sister had two pitbulls. One had to be put to sleep because he attacked her ex and bit off half his lip. The second passed cause fuck cancer.

Crazy fuckers they were.

Spiritlittle posted...

That's hyperbole to the max, dawg. A dog is a pet, the others are wild animals.

All about how you raise them. I've had plenty of pit bulls over the years, and there the best dogs imaginable. Would never have another breed.

They should not be allowed to exist and be forcibly taken from all owners for the good of public health.

GranolaPanic posted...

Shes the size of a smaller whippet and wont get any larger than that because of the dwarfism and weighs 19 pounds.

You lucked out. From what I'm reading the dangerous pitbulls don't have dwarfism. Still should take proper precautions around small children.

Paragon21XX posted...

All breeds can snap, but no breeds are equal in their potential for destructiveness. Chihuauas might be able to puncture the skin, labs might require several stitches, but pit bulls require reconstructive surgery.

Thats not true. Pits are strong yes but there are bigger and stronger dogs out there.

Granted you dont wanna get bit by any dog but if i had to choose pits are pretty far down the list of dogs im trying to avoid.

Also, any large dog bites will require major surgery if they get into you. A pit bull wont fuck you up anymore so than a GSD or a Rottweiler.

Pitbulls problems are that they are available in large numbers and people dont train them. Same with chihuahuas but only one can rip your arm off

I think as long as pitbulls only attack their owners it's fine.

It's only a problem when they attack other random people and kids.

I4NRulez posted...

Pitbulls problems are that they are available in large numbers and people dont train them. Same with chihuahuas but only one can rip your arm off

Their problem is in their nature and instincts. How do you know every pitbull in these cases aren't trained?

Cobra1010 posted...

Their problem is in their nature and instincts. How do you know every pitbull in these cases aren't trained?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/4/AADdfsAAENj8.jpg

Cobra1010 posted...

Their problem is in their nature and instincts. How do you know every pitbull in these cases aren't trained?

That's not true at all. There have been studies that suggest they don't have any more propensity to bite than any other breed. It's a size and quantity thing. They're overbred and they're exhibited in a lot of mixed breeds.

Cobra1010 posted...

Their problem is in their nature and instincts. How do you know every pitbull in these cases aren't trained?

Pitbulls arent naturally dangerous. Even if we went with the "they are bred to fight dogs!" that would naturally make them dog aggressive not people aggressive.

Even the ASPCA will say that https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls

The two most returned dogs to shelters are huskies and pitbulls

The two most returned dogs to shelters are pit bulls and huskies. The number one reasons for the returns are behavioral/destruction. I think the return rate for dogs in shelters is like 15-20%.

What do huskies and pits have in common? They are highly energetic dogs who are great at escaping. Dogs that dont get get stimulated get stressed and bored and they destroy things. A dog cant tell you "Hey man, i need out of this house im bored". They bark then they bite. They might not bite you but they'll bite something.

Now say that pitbull escapes. All he knows is his front yard. He hasnt been socialized or trained well and all this new information is overwhelming. Now he's running around the neighborhood scared and stressed.

A dog with no reaction training is a dog where something bad is going to happen. If all pits were just gonna bite there would be a near 100% bite rate on them.

voldothegr8 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/4/AADdfsAAENj8.jpg

this isnt true at all.

All huskies/malamutes arent sled dogs, all labs dont love water, all retrievers wont retrieve.

They are all trained to do that. They have characteristics/traits that make them better for it just like pits had the physical capabilities to make them great fighting dogs. They were loyal to humans and determined in tasks. Not to mention strong as hell and agile.

I cant get a GSD and be like "ok go find the drugs boy"

https://imgur.com/a/z8U3O1L

There are some real geniuses in this thread.

Alligators have a cooler temperament than a lot of dogs. Should they be owned by every other trashy loser?

No, because outside of internet world, that's fucking dangerous based on what they are capable of if not properly trained.

Anybody assuming strangers are going to properly train their animals is a dip who doesnt pay any attention to their own pets.

WolfFangHowell posted...

Anybody assuming strangers are going to properly train their animals is a dip who doesnt pay any attention to their own pets.

This is my mindset when i walk my dog. People never ever ever ever train chihuahuas and they often try to start shit with my dog and it kinda instilled in her to be reactive to them. Even with training i can get her to calm down and sit instead of actually reacting.

People will walk them off leash and they will run up to my dog and i have to yell "come get your dog" as their little shits try to posture up against my 80-pound dog. We got the point where my dog doesnt care much but the wrong dog that gets too big for his paws can easily get killed cause someone thinks their dog is an angel that they've never trained.

I love all dogs but i dont underestimate the level of stupidity from people and unfortunately its the dogs that suffer the consequences from it.

Ever notice how alike 2A proponents and pitbull proponents sound?

It's the owners fault! Not the gun/pitbull!

You can't even explain what a pitbull/AR15 is!

My gun/pitbull will never hurt anyone!

Shamino posted...

Ever notice how alike 2A proponents and pitbull proponents sound?

It's the owners fault! Not the gun/pitbull!

You can't even explain what a pitbull/AR15 is!

My gun/pitbull will never hurt anyone!

Well, if you dont train to use a gun what will happen? You'll hurt yourself or hurt someone else.

If you dont train a dog what will happen? You'll hurt yourself, you'll hurt someone else, or you'll hurt the dog.

Dogs arent able to figure out on their own what they are doing is wrong. They learn it either from other dogs or people. If you dont teach your dog what its doing is wrong then its going to do those things and accidents will happen.

I4NRulez posted...

Well, if you dont train to use a gun what will happen? You'll hurt yourself or hurt someone else.

If you dont train a dog what will happen? You'll hurt yourself, you'll hurt someone else, or you'll hurt the dog.

Dogs arent able to figure out on their own what they are doing is wrong. They learn it either from other dogs or people. If you dont teach your dog what its doing is wrong then its going to do those things and accidents will happen.

Do you honestly think that every single pitbull attack is due to bad training and has nothing to do with genetics?

I4NRulez posted...

Well, if you dont train to use a gun what will happen? You'll hurt yourself or hurt someone else.

If you dont train a dog what will happen? You'll hurt yourself, you'll hurt someone else, or you'll hurt the dog.

Dogs arent able to figure out on their own what they are doing is wrong. They learn it either from other dogs or people. If you dont teach your dog what its doing is wrong then its going to do those things and accidents will happen.

It's easier to get away with an accidental pitbull killing than a gun related killing.

You just take the collar off and you're golden. It was a wild dog. Nobodys fault anymore.

Shamino posted...

Do you honestly think that every single pitbull attack is due to bad training and has nothing to do with genetics?

Not in a sense where i think "Pitbulls" themselves are the problem.

I think genetics come into play where people who shouldn't be breeding dogs will breed dogs that have mental illnesses that are passed down which can make a dog unstable.

I've seen my dad beat a german shepherd to the point where it got out and before he could pick it up from the pound they put it down because it was so aggressive. I've also met enough pitbulls that are some of the greatest dogs ive met. I've seen people train chihuahuas where they are really great dogs. I've seen people who dont and they are the typical little assholes.

I've been around dogs my whole life and i dont believe the breed matters. I think each dog should be treated as an individual.

My own dog taught me that with training dogs that are "Aggressive" and untrainable can become sweethearts. My dog was very dog aggressive as a puppy due to trauma. With training and a lot of patience, she isnt that same way.

I love dogs and the rap that Pits have now is the rap that Rotties had before them. Then if they ban all pits then it will just be another big dog getting the blame.

Shamino posted...

Do you honestly think that every single pitbull attack is due to bad training and has nothing to do with genetics?

Those are the same thing. You HAVE TO train them to overcome those instincts, and yet people fight tooth and nail for this to not be mandatory.

Says a lot about a person when your neighbors lives mean less than a vanity animal.

WolfFangHowell posted...

Those are the same thing. You HAVE TO train them to overcome those instincts, and yet people fight tooth and nail for this to not be mandatory.

Says a lot about a person when your neighbors lives mean less than a vanity animal.

No matter how well you train a pitbull it can still snap and kill something. You can't change the fundamental brain chemistry that makes the dog dangerous.

Shamino posted...

pitbull it can still snap and kill something

a pitbull wont "snap" more than any other dog will and dogs wont actually snap.

there's always an underlying cause to a dog attack.

I4NRulez posted...

a pitbull wont "snap" more than any other dog will and dogs wont actually snap.

there's always an underlying cause to a dog attack.

Yes, that underlying cause is instinct, which again is brain chemistry and genetics. It can happen in any dog, but it's much more dangerous when it happens in an animal that has the muscle and bone structure of a pitbull.

Shamino posted...

Yes, that underlying cause is instinct, which again is brain chemistry and genetics.

no it isnt lol.

Its always stress, injury, sickness etc.

Even if the whole "fighting dog" instinct was true it would be towards other dogs and not people since fighting dogs that attacked people got killed.

WolfFangHowell posted...

It's easier to get away with an accidental pitbull killing than a gun related killing.

You just take the collar off and you're golden. It was a wild dog. Nobodys fault anymore.

i mean statistically speaking youre more than likely just gonna give someone a free dog at that point lol

I come into these topics for the memes

Couple of good ones in here

I4NRulez posted...

Pitbulls arent naturally dangerous. Even if we went with the "they are bred to fight dogs!" that would naturally make them dog aggressive not people aggressive.

Even the ASPCA will say that https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls

The two most returned dogs to shelters are huskies and pitbulls

The two most returned dogs to shelters are pit bulls and huskies. The number one reasons for the returns are behavioral/destruction. I think the return rate for dogs in shelters is like 15-20%.

What do huskies and pits have in common? They are highly energetic dogs who are great at escaping. Dogs that dont get get stimulated get stressed and bored and they destroy things. A dog cant tell you "Hey man, i need out of this house im bored". They bark then they bite. They might not bite you but they'll bite something.

Now say that pitbull escapes. All he knows is his front yard. He hasnt been socialized or trained well and all this new information is overwhelming. Now he's running around the neighborhood scared and stressed.

A dog with no reaction training is a dog where something bad is going to happen. If all pits were just gonna bite there would be a near 100% bite rate on them.

huskies are returned so much because theyre full of energy and very vocal (howls, husky screams, etc) they will tear your place down (literally, they chew through doors, walls, couches, etc), so you need to tire them out.

there, nobody said lie!!! Its how you raise them about it. Its in their genes.

pitbulls. They bite other living beings. Sorry its true.

the_pika posted...

huskies are returned so much because theyre full of energy and very vocal (howls, husky screams, etc) they will tear your place down (literally, they chew through doors, walls, couches, etc), so you need to tire them out.

there, nobody said lie!!! Its how you raise them about it. Its in their genes.

pitbulls. They bite other living beings. Sorry its true.

its the same exact situation for pit bulls except people expect Huskies to be like that because of their reputations for being sled dogs.

people dont expect that from pitbulls. Also, Huskies bite and alot. If you go by the same BS that pitbull haters use. Huskies are just as dangerous.

https://www.bestattorney.com/dog-bites/siberian-husky-dog-breed.html
https://www.noonanlawma.com/brockton-dog-bite-lawyer/dog-bites-and-attacks-husky-siberian-husky/

Dogs bite, its an unfortunate thing. Thats why we need responsible dog owners to train them not to. There's no breed that is prone to being a killer.

Shamino posted...

It's the owners fault! Not the gun/pitbull!

Because guns can act on their own volition?

I4NRulez posted...

its the same exact situation for pit bulls except people expect Huskies to be like that because of their reputations for being sled dogs.

people dont expect that from pitbulls. Also, Huskies bite and alot. If you go by the same BS that pitbull haters use. Huskies are just as dangerous.

https://www.bestattorney.com/dog-bites/siberian-husky-dog-breed.html
https://www.noonanlawma.com/brockton-dog-bite-lawyer/dog-bites-and-attacks-husky-siberian-husky/

Dogs bite, its an unfortunate thing. Thats why we need responsible dog owners to train them not to. There's no breed that is prone to being a killer.

lets compare husky vs pibble stats:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/0/AAfaEYAAENmE.jpg

isnt it a little bit eeehhhhh, messed up to bOtH sIdEs a breed with 65.6% of bite deaths and a breed with 3% !? 13 vs 284.

come on man

the_pika posted...

lets compare husky vs pibble stats:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/0/AAfaEYAAENmE.jpg

isnt it a little bit eeehhhhh, messed up to bOtH sIdEs a breed with 65.6% of bite deaths and a breed with 3% !? 13 vs 284.

come on man

Didn't you know? All stats that paint pit bulls in a negative light are made up.

Fuck man "pit bull" isn't even a breed.

the_pika posted...

lets compare husky vs pibble stats:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/0/AAfaEYAAENmE.jpg

isnt it a little bit eeehhhhh, messed up to bOtH sIdEs a breed with 65.6% of bite deaths and a breed with 3% !? 13 vs 284.

come on man

of course there's a huge difference in population. Pitbulls are owned by way more people

I4NRulez posted...

of course there's a huge difference in population. Pitbulls are owned by way more people

wat