Current Events > Is the M-She-U label justified, or is it from toxic fans?

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Aloc
02/22/23 9:19:39 PM
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I haven't watched any MCU since Shang Chi and Spiderman. In fact. NWH and Shang Chi are the only phase 4 I watched. I never watched Thor 4. Or Eternals. Or any of the TV stuff.

Frankly MCU is getting pretty old and boring.

And Thor 3 was just awful. Literally the worst MCU movie so I have no issue skipping Love and Thunder
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SSJKirby
02/22/23 9:20:02 PM
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toxic people, don't even have to be fans. They just see women in a lead role and seethe

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Solar_Crimson
02/22/23 9:20:28 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
toxic fans, don't even have to be fans. They just see women in a lead role and seethe

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Background_Guy
02/22/23 9:22:19 PM
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None of the phase 4/5 movies have had female leads except for Black Widow and Black Panther

I guess that's a lot more than in the past but it's still a small minority.
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MagnusX
02/22/23 11:11:17 PM
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Toxic, insecure chuds.
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legendary_zell
02/22/23 11:14:54 PM
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No one uses that label except for Disney itself when it wants to highlight a subset of characters in a subset of movies/shows....and chuds.

If you're hearing someone who is not a Disney employee use it, 99/100 they're being toxic.

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pegusus123456
02/22/23 11:14:56 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
toxic people, don't even have to be fans. They just see women in a lead role and seethe
This.

It's from the same people who were absolutely furious that She-Hulk twerked for four seconds in the post-credits scene of a sitcom.

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Kakapo
02/22/23 11:17:52 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
toxic people, don't even have to be fans. They just see women in a lead role and seethe


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DrPrimemaster
02/22/23 11:19:53 PM
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I think the MCU ran out of good ideas, and that the TV series aka "please stay subscribed to disney+" format has led to bad content.

Women are just an easy scapegoat.

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Kim_Seong-a
02/22/23 11:32:58 PM
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"M-She-U" is a perfectly justified label...

...if you were Sean Connery

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TheWizardOfOrz
02/22/23 11:34:07 PM
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It's a weird complaint in general because it assumes it would be bad if all the movies starred female superheros. Nobody seemed to mind when it was a sausage party.

As if women in movies was somehow a flaw in of itself. Yeah that's not smells like incel.
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StapleGenius
02/22/23 11:37:46 PM
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I'm no toxic but I don't approve Disney using MCU, Star Wars, Disney projects to push their agenda.

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Punished_Blinx
02/22/23 11:38:32 PM
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Imagine how butthurt those guys would be if an heiress who was wasting her potential by drinking and sleeping around was kidnapped and suddenly developed super armor with a box of scraps.

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Blue_Popo
02/22/23 11:39:00 PM
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Only justified for cassie lang but others is just chuds on the internet crying

Kate bishop also beating up armies of thugs is nonsense
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Gamingsince1989
02/22/23 11:41:47 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
None of the phase 4/5 movies have had female leads except for Black Widow and Black Panther

I guess that's a lot more than in the past but it's still a small minority.
Even before that there was only Captain Marvel. As far as the series go you have WandaVision, She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel and Hawkeye and two of those the women were co-leads. I guess you could say that Sersi was the lead character in Eternals as well. There's really no justification for calling it M-She-U.
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CE_gonna_CE
02/22/23 11:44:29 PM
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Safe to assume anyone slinging this around has a a pretty small pp tbh

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TotallyRuined2
02/22/23 11:47:14 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
None of the phase 4/5 movies have had female leads except for Black Widow and Black Panther

I guess that's a lot more than in the past but it's still a small minority.

The M-She-U doesn't need to involve females in the lead role. (though it's certainly a bonus) They can serve as secondary or even ""antagonist"" roles but still have the primary function of making whatever male leads present look incompetent or have them bow down to their femininity.

Beyond just Black Widow and Black Panther, She Hulk remains the gold standard of this thus far. Wandavision had it. Hawkeye had it. Loki had it. Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness surprisingly had it. Thor Love & Thunder definitely had it. Even Falcon had Sam berate people for calling the terrorists terrorists despite clearly being terrorists who just so happened to be led by a woman.
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Darkninja42
02/22/23 11:48:23 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Only justified for cassie lang but others is just chuds on the internet crying

Kate bishop also beating up armies of thugs is nonsense
I don't even get the criticism for Cassie because it's not like MODOK was really treated like a threat at any point in the movie, so her beating his ass wasn't really a big deal. It's just like any standard 3rd act motivation power up like any other movie would have

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ViewtifulGrave
02/22/23 11:51:29 PM
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StapleGenius posted...
I'm no toxic but I don't approve Disney using MCU, Star Wars, Disney projects to push their agenda.
What agenda is that?

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Supersex420
02/22/23 11:52:37 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
What agenda is that?
Unironically charge rent to enjoy the content

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/22/23 11:54:24 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
What agenda is that?
Making money.

I, too, think they should make no money.

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lolife67
02/22/23 11:54:32 PM
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TotallyRuined2 posted...
She Hulk remains the gold standard of this thus far. Wandavision had it. Hawkeye had it. Loki had it. Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness surprisingly had it. Thor Love & Thunder definitely had it. Even Falcon had Sam berate people for calling the terrorists terrorists despite clearly being terrorists who just so happened to be led by a woman.
I may give you Loki. But how did She-Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye, WandaVision or Dr. Strange make the make heroes "look incompetent or bow down to femininity?"
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MagnusDJL
02/23/23 12:08:49 AM
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Darkninja42 posted...
I don't even get the criticism for Cassie because it's not like MODOK was really treated like a threat at any point in the movie, so her beating his ass wasn't really a big deal. It's just like any standard 3rd act motivation power up like any other movie would have

There's also the facts that our first moment seeing her was Scott picking her up from a prison, there's the moment where Scott shows her how to beat up enemies when she first puts her suit on, there were a couple moments where she clearly showed having some level of PTSD or trauma over Hornet/Darren Shawn after what happened at the end of the first movie, and there was also the moment Cassie apologized to Scott for being taken hostage by Kang and being used as a bargaining chip against Scott.

Like, WTF are people smoking by trying to make cassie out as some character that made dudes bow down to feminity lol

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VampireCoyote
02/23/23 12:12:10 AM
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oh no help more beautiful women are in these movies help

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Punished_Blinx
02/23/23 12:16:14 AM
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The stupid thing is people can accept that characters like Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne and Peter Parker are so smart they barely need to take the time to actually study or learn things. Which isn't how intelligence works.

Yet if a woman character is like this about anything then it's too far. Everything has to be earned the hard way.

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FortuneCookie
02/23/23 12:19:21 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
"M-She-U" is a perfectly justified label...

...if you were Sean Connery


He would argue that it would be okay to slap Black Widow -- provided you gave her fair warning.

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ChocoboMogALT
02/23/23 12:26:02 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
What agenda is that?
Don't bother, he'll be banned next week.

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cjsdowg
02/23/23 12:30:27 AM
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TotallyRuined2 posted...
Even Falcon had Sam berate people for calling the terrorists terrorists despite clearly being terrorists who just so happened to be led by a woman.

She literally kills a black man and later said point blank his life didn't matter. In the middle of BLM. And Sam you know Red you have a point.

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yusiko
02/23/23 12:52:04 AM
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yes if you hear someone use M-SHE-U in a sentence seriously its much like them using SJW or woke as a negative
its safe to write them off as someone not worth talking to

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Kastrada
02/23/23 1:14:54 AM
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TotallyRuined2 posted...
Beyond just Black Widow and Black Panther, She Hulk remains the gold standard of this thus far. Wandavision had it. Hawkeye had it. Loki had it. Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness surprisingly had it. Thor Love & Thunder definitely had it. Even Falcon had Sam berate people for calling the terrorists terrorists despite clearly being terrorists who just so happened to be led by a woman.

I just finished an episode of She-Hulk where an entire group of men tell the main character what to do, she does it, and it is spun as entirely positive experience.

The only times men are portrayed negatively are when they are pieces of shit. And women are portrayed negatively as well.

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GuerrillaSoldier
02/23/23 1:57:33 AM
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topic title is bait
original post isn't related to topic title
original poster hasn't reappeared

well ok then

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STEROLIZER
02/23/23 3:02:57 AM
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Toxic fans. Usually due to some pent up resentment towards women for not wanting to have sex with them.

Those types of folks tend to congregate in various online bubbles, and talk about how unfair it is to be a man. Or whatever nonsense they use to headcanon themselves into victimhood, and justify such ridiculously creepy world views like thinking its okay to inflict retaliatory violence upon women so long as they slap first

So its only natural that the term seeps into various internet denizen hangouts. GameFaqs included.

Nobody in the real world has ever heard of the m-she-u because it doesnt exist. Hell comicsgaters are basically fictional characters at this point. Just cartoon parodies of lonely human beings.

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pegusus123456
02/23/23 3:48:33 AM
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TotallyRuined2 posted...
Even Falcon had Sam berate people for calling the terrorists terrorists despite clearly being terrorists who just so happened to be led by a woman.
That had nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with them just trying to fight back against something shitty.

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Poorly
02/23/23 3:55:29 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
He would argue that it would be okay to slap Black Widow -- provided you gave her fair warning.

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TheWizardOfOrz
02/24/23 1:19:23 PM
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TotallyRuined2 posted...
Even Falcon had Sam berate people for calling the terrorists terrorists despite clearly being terrorists who just so happened to be led by a woman.
If this is what you think I have difficulty seeing how to debate this issue with you. How did you come to the conclusion it was because she was a woman?
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