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winged_weltall
02/24/23 9:39:26 PM
#101:


Newt_Truhl posted...
I think there's only one reason someone would post this on gamefaqs current events and it doesn't have much to do with a watch.

That's what I think.

Think what you will, but I encourage you to read my posts and tell me where I'm trying to come off as a show off or a snob. I'm genuinely curious. For me it's about sharing a hobby. I posted about a sub $200 watch that I got as a gift in December and no one made any complaint that would resemble the one made in your post.

It's baffling how insecure people get just because someone owns an expensive watch. Honestly, it's a very special watch but it's still just a watch. It's not going to change my life, but it's a nicely made item that I personally happen to think looks nice. The fact that it has a value matters to me, yes. I also like spending money on stuff that holds a little bit of value at least, even if I never want to sell it. Going on a mindless vacation and blowing 1000s isn't what I necessarily enjoy doing, nor spend it on cars (I own a 2014 Honda Civic 1.4L). Same with eating out, where I live you can easily spend $50-60 on a regular meal, I prefer learning how to cook it myself. That way I can pay less (the watches don't pay for themselves, do they!) and learn something in the process.

I've even share small videos of me making food here. I posted a pizza making video on reddit that got 340k views in 2 single days. It inspired hundreds of people (judging by what people were saying in the comments) to make pizza, use my recipe. It was really humbling and I really took the time to respond to every dm and comment. The 1 min 30s video was made as simply as possible to show people how easy it is and everyone can do it. The passion and inspiration is what I enjoy sharing. Not "hey look at this delicious food I can make" or "hey look at my cool watch you can't afford". That shit is pathetic and makes me sick. So I get pretty annoyed when these types of accusations are thrown at me.

I spend it on stuff I enjoy and that happens to be watches (amongst other things)

Sorry for the wall of text. Just trying to offer my personal perspective.
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masticatingman
02/24/23 9:41:02 PM
#102:


Im a bit of a watch enthusiast who fortunately doesnt care about manual/automatic. Quartz movements are too beneficial imo to deride.

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Ratchetrockon
02/24/23 9:44:29 PM
#103:


damn that is amazing
idc about watches but i do like collecting headphones.
the peak headphone price without any gimmicky diamonds or gold is like 50k-60k w/ the sennheiser he-1 so that watch cost more than the peak of headphones. holy frick.

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winged_weltall
02/24/23 9:44:56 PM
#104:


hockeybub89 posted...
Seems at least $64,500 too much.

Watches are even more of a racket than sneakers it seems. And this is completely personal, but I don't even get the point of watches in current year.

I know for a fact that margins on watches are considerably lower than sneakers. The man hours that goes into making certain fine watches (I'm not talking Michael Kors or Fossil) are insane. I've lived in Switzerland all my life and I know the industry very well, high level Swiss made watches margins aren't as high as you think. Paying Swiss salaries for highly trained watchmakers, with Patek we're talking the best watchmakers / engineers / etc etc. in the industry.

A HUGE amount of money from sneakers goes into marketing. Patek Philippe has zero brand ambassadors, and sponsors NO events. These sneakers you're talking about are all mass produced in factories in countries where labor is cheap and skilled labor isn't necessary.

You can call it more ridiculous than sneakers if that's what you personally feel. I won't hold it against you, not many are informed about the watch industry, so they like to say things that don't always make sense. But there is way more value in a fine watch than a shoe. Yes, your phone tells the time, and it's more accurate. But that's like saying "well my Ford Focus gets me from A to B just like your Ferrari" .... Yeah NO SHIT! How can you be that oblivious?
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hyperskate65
02/24/23 9:52:01 PM
#105:


I'm gonna be real. As a watch man - spending any amount of money for a rubber watch band is laughable.

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winged_weltall
02/24/23 9:54:09 PM
#106:


hyperskate65 posted...
I'm gonna be real. As a watch man - spending any amount of money for a rubber watch band is laughable.

You'd be surprised. Plenty of poorly machine watches on metal bracelets, badly finished, bad links that pull hair, look clunky, no tapering and so on. It's not about the material, leather, metal, rubber, nato, textile. It's about the quality. When handling this watch and observing the bracelets. It is incredibly high end and the way it hugs your wrist really is insane. It has these ridges on the underside that make it so flexible yet still robust too.

I'd love to show you the physical watch. I use to have the same opinion as you, but I really have come around.
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Cokewave
02/24/23 9:55:44 PM
#107:


This is the biggest watch flex ive seen on CE - sir you are currently in first place.

I dream of a 18k yellow gold sky-dweller - but you outclassed it

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hyperskate65
02/24/23 9:57:33 PM
#108:


winged_weltall posted...
You'd be surprised. Plenty of poorly machine watches on metal bracelets, badly finished, bad links that pull hair, look clunky, no tapering and so on. It's not about the material, leather, metal, rubber, nato, textile. It's about the quality. When handling this watch and observing the bracelets. It is incredibly high end and the way it hugs your wrist really is insane. It has these ridges on the underside that make it so flexible yet still robust too.

I'd love to show you the physical watch. I use to have the same opinion as you, but I really have come around.

I agree there's poorly made metal watches, but I'm saying a rubber or cloth band watch will never convince me to take out my wallet. It makes the entire product look cheap, and that's not really what you're going for when you're dropping 5 figures on a watch, yknow?

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Malcrasternus
02/24/23 9:58:58 PM
#109:


Pretty cool man. I got a watch today too, though its a fraction of a fraction of the price.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/8/AAL4msAAEN1q.jpg
I love it though, can't believe I waited so long to get a blueberry dial.

If I may ask, how do you justify it in your mind? The prices I mean. Do you buy them with the thought that they'll be worth more later, or is the passion so high that you don't mind wearing 20+ grand on your wrist, exposing it to dirt, sweat, and potential scratches?

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winged_weltall
02/24/23 10:00:04 PM
#110:


Cokewave posted...
This is the biggest watch flex ive seen on CE - sir you are currently in first place.

I dream of a 18k yellow gold sky-dweller - but you outclassed it

That's a great watch, and believe it or not, Rolex's annual calendar movements are quite reasonably priced for what you're getting. It's a very sophisticated complication, especially with the way Rolex integrated the bezel to interact with the movement to change what function you use the crown for. Revolutionary design, and amazing way to display the date. A dial happens to have 12 indeces for 1-12 o'clock, the same amount of months per year, so the indeces double up as month indicators. GMT and date complication in there too. Really cool model!
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winged_weltall
02/24/23 10:03:05 PM
#111:


hyperskate65 posted...
I agree there's poorly made metal watches, but I'm saying a rubber or cloth band watch will never convince me to take out my wallet. It makes the entire product look cheap, and that's not really what you're going for when you're dropping 5 figures on a watch, yknow?

Yes I understand there may be bias to it. And if the look isn't for you I completely understand. But I recently put my other Patek Philippe (Weekly Calendar Calatrava ref 5212a) on a nato strap (textile) and it looked amazing in my opinion. It was on calf leather originally. The casualness of the red nato strap matching perfectly with the subtle red elements of the dial. I just loved the contrast of the relaxed look, despite the watch being so high end.

I say wear the watch instead of the watch wears you. If you like the watch on a rubber strap, why the hell not? If you like it on alligator leather, go for it. If you like it on a textile strap, buy it if you like the way it looks!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/1/AAMtjIAAEN1t.jpg
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hyperskate65
02/24/23 10:04:37 PM
#112:


Malcrasternus posted...
Pretty cool man. I got a watch today too, though its a fraction of a fraction of the price.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/8/AAL4msAAEN1q.jpg
I love it though, can't believe I waited so long to get a blueberry dial.

If I may ask, how do you justify it in your mind? The prices I mean. Do you buy them with the thought that they'll be worth more later, or is the passion so high that you don't mind wearing 20+ grand on your wrist, exposing it to dirt, sweat, and potential scratches?

I fucking love Seiko. Easily my favorite brand.

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winged_weltall
02/24/23 10:08:38 PM
#113:


Malcrasternus posted...
Pretty cool man. I got a watch today too, though its a fraction of a fraction of the price.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/8/AAL4msAAEN1q.jpg
I love it though, can't believe I waited so long to get a blueberry dial.

If I may ask, how do you justify it in your mind? The prices I mean. Do you buy them with the thought that they'll be worth more later, or is the passion so high that you don't mind wearing 20+ grand on your wrist, exposing it to dirt, sweat, and potential scratches?

I love that Seiko 5! I have a Seiko SKX this one was based on, it's such a great piece. One of my most worn! Yours also has the updated movement, hacking seconds manual wind and more power reserve. There are some very cool Seiko 5s! I love some of the Street Fighter limited editions!!

Also, this watch is perfect for the sweat issue. My other Patek is on a leather strap and when I sweat it can get a bit annoying. This watch is for those hot days, the rubber strap is designed in a way to let the sweat just roll right of it. Easy to clean thanks to a high water resistance (120m).

And yes, it takes some getting used to, wearing such expensive stuff. But honestly in the end it's just a watch. It won't feel too different from a $30 watch and you kinda need to get over the fact that it's so expensive after a while. Just be mindful where you wear it, wear it to places you feel comfortable. Otherwise why own the watch if it scares you to wear it? All the enjoyment gone! I usually have a sleeve over it, so it won't necessarily get banged around. First scratch will obviously hurt, but it gets better after. Every scratch will make it more my watch, if you catch my drift.
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winged_weltall
02/24/23 10:09:56 PM
#114:


hyperskate65 posted...
I fucking love Seiko. Easily my favorite brand.

Top 3 brands for me as well. They are amazing.

Breitling
Seiko (including Grand Seiko, whose models start at $5k but quality of movement and finishing is comparable to brands worth multiples of that. Gotta of Japanese value for money!)
Patek Philippe (if it wasn't obvious)
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KINDERFELD
02/24/23 10:12:15 PM
#115:


Tc disregard the haters. Some of us get where you're coming from.

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Malcrasternus
02/24/23 10:16:36 PM
#117:


hyperskate65 posted...
I fucking love Seiko. Easily my favorite brand.
Thats my third one now in less than a year, heh. These are my other two.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/4/AAL4msAAEN16.jpg

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Jabodie
02/24/23 10:19:06 PM
#118:


$10k or so in today's dollars is probably the max I would pay for a watch. If I could afford a Grand Seiko...

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Questionmarktarius
02/24/23 10:32:04 PM
#119:


we doin' watch brags now?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/4/AAEhCpAAEN2E.jpg
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YugiNoob
02/24/23 10:36:20 PM
#120:


Questionmarktarius posted...
we doin' watch brags now?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/4/AAEhCpAAEN2E.jpg
You forgot to brag about how expensive they are, but pretend that the sole reason you mentioned it wasn't to stroke your ego lol

For real though those watches are exponentially more awesome than TC's ones

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Questionmarktarius
02/24/23 10:39:54 PM
#121:


YugiNoob posted...
You forgot to brag about how expensive they are
Not a lot, but enough to seriously consider selling them on ebay.
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the_pika
02/24/23 11:43:08 PM
#122:


winged_weltall posted...
Speak for yourself! There are plenty of reasons people share their passion, I suppose for you it'd be insecurity as you're very likely projecting.


from one watch guy to another: its not that you share your passion.

its that its most of what you post here. It comes off as he only comes here to brag.

it didnt rub me off the wrong way because I like (and own) watches too, but I can put myself in the shoes of other CEmen
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the_pika
02/25/23 12:00:01 AM
#123:


hockeybub89 posted...
Seems at least $64,500 too much.

Watches are even more of a racket than sneakers it seems. And this is completely personal, but I don't even get the point of watches in current year.

I understand why TC comes off as annoying, but Patek watches are legit.

women wear jewelry. Were talking gold, silver, diamonds, emeralds, pearls, etc etc, useless stones and metal pieces turned into pieces of beauty whose only purpose is to adorn and show status.

men dont have that luxury most of the time. The closest thing we have are watches, and the excuse we have for them is the fact that theyre supposed to be tools (for telling the time).

people have looked up to beauty and status symbols since the beginning of mankind. Even the Aztecs and other native Americans used feathers and elaborate head dresses as personal accessories and symbols of power. Its part of human nature.

a 2009 Toyota Corolla may take you from point A to point B better than a Ferrari would. Everclear will make you drunk faster and cheaper than a $500 bottle of top shelf Scotch. Eating bugs is probably healthier and better than the environment than having 1/4 of Wagyu beef. A $2 BIC pen is far more useful and reliable than a $1200 Montblanc fountain pen. Yet these latter items still exist and they awaken a sense of desire and aspiration in many, many people (perhaps not YOU, but many others), and that is the same situation with a Patek/Rolex/Cartier, when compared to a $10 Casio that actually tells the time better than them, or a smartwatch, or even just using your smartphone to tell the time

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Questionmarktarius
02/25/23 12:00:58 AM
#124:


the_pika posted...
men dont have that luxury most of the time.
Two closets full of legos tho.
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the_pika
02/25/23 12:02:11 AM
#125:


Cokewave posted...
This is the biggest watch flex ive seen on CE - sir you are currently in first place.

I dream of a 18k yellow gold sky-dweller - but you outclassed it

@Cokewave @winged_weltall are there any other watch guys in CE?

we could get a watch pics topic started for us, not in CE (did I mention that vegetabletax dude I had to block cuz he was jealous?) but in some dead board here, it could be fun
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Beefbud
02/25/23 12:03:26 AM
#126:


winged_weltall posted...
Speak for yourself! There are plenty of reasons people share their passion,

your passion isn't watches, it's bragging about expensive shit you buy so people will think you're important. there's a way to share your passions and not come off this way, but you didn't do it

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the_pika
02/25/23 12:05:43 AM
#127:


Questionmarktarius posted...
we doin' watch brags now?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/4/AAEhCpAAEN2E.jpg

I FUCKING LOVE THESE

I had a Mario bros one, it was actually close-ish in gameplay to the original (non-super) Mario bros. It looked just like these too.

then I had a star Fox one and it was different, and it had some protuberance in the back and I convinced myself the watch had an FX chip, lol.

such nostalgia man
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Questionmarktarius
02/25/23 12:09:18 AM
#129:


the_pika posted...
I had a Mario bros one, it was actually close-ish in gameplay to the original (non-super) Mario bros. It looked just like these too.
The Mario one is yellowed as hell in spots, and the batteries have probably leaked out all over the internals.
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Solid_Snake07
02/25/23 12:12:12 AM
#130:


Seems like a huge target to put on your back unless youre rich enough to have a security detail.

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the_pika
02/25/23 12:17:19 AM
#131:


Beefbud posted...
your passion isn't watches, it's bragging about expensive shit you buy so people will think you're important. there's a way to share your passions and not come off this way, but you didn't do it

I have to agree with this.
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LightningAce11
02/25/23 12:21:59 AM
#132:


Is this no u l7?

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the_pika
02/25/23 12:22:51 AM
#133:


Solid_Snake07 posted...
Seems like a huge target to put on your back unless youre rich enough to have a security detail.

if he has TWO pateks, 2 Rolexes, a Speedmaster, and a fairly expensive bike, and he posts in CE (which means he is 40 at the oldest, 20 at the youngest) and lives in Europe he probably comes from old money and does have a security detail. And by detail I mean 1 or 2 bodyguards.

you dont own 100k worth in watches because you got early into the market, and you dont feel the need to brag all the time to a bunch of CEmen if you have an important job, so I think he comes from money.

which is not a criticism AT ALL, more power to him.
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the_pika
02/25/23 12:23:16 AM
#134:


LightningAce11 posted...
Is this no u l7?

nah, he was fake. TC seems to be the real deal
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TetsuoS2
02/25/23 12:48:51 AM
#135:


I don't like the design much, but if it floats your boat.

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Solid_Snake07
02/25/23 12:58:27 AM
#136:


the_pika posted...
if he has TWO pateks, 2 Rolexes, a Speedmaster, and a fairly expensive bike, and he posts in CE (which means he is 40 at the oldest, 20 at the youngest) and lives in Europe he probably comes from old money and does have a security detail. And by detail I mean 1 or 2 bodyguards.

you dont own 100k worth in watches because you got early into the market, and you dont feel the need to brag all the time to a bunch of CEmen if you have an important job, so I think he comes from money.

which is not a criticism AT ALL, more power to him.


Maybe

I'd want more than two guys if I were walking around with tens or hundreds or thousands of dollars of shit on my person personally.

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Questionmarktarius
02/25/23 1:00:26 AM
#137:


the_pika posted...
(which means he is 40 at the oldest, 20 at the youngest)
I'm a month short of 48. I think some other CEman is already north of 50.
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winged_weltall
02/25/23 4:57:21 AM
#138:


KINDERFELD posted...
Tc disregard the haters. Some of us get where you're coming from.

Thanks man, really appreciate it. I keep encouraging the haters to at least read my posts in the topic, at which point they'll realized it's not about boasting but about passion. But some people will never change.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Yeah I get that sentiment. Luckily I live in Zurich Switzerland where crime is very low. Even in here in Zurich I'm very conscious where I wear stuff like this. I wear my $200-300 Seikos/Orient/Swatch often for this reason. Love them too and no worrying. Worrying while wearing a watch ruins all the fun.

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DarthWendy
02/25/23 4:59:29 AM
#139:


Your next one should be a Bell & Ross, tc. They have a fairly large pricing range. Get yours !

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winged_weltall
02/25/23 5:03:31 AM
#140:


Malcrasternus posted...
Thats my third one now in less than a year, heh. These are my other two.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/4/AAL4msAAEN16.jpg

Very cool! You've got all bases covered with those colors. Orange is a bit of a wildcard color which is awesome too, black is very understated. All 3 from arguably one of the best watchmakers of all time. Nice!

Beefbud posted...
your passion isn't watches, it's bragging about expensive shit you buy so people will think you're important. there's a way to share your passions and not come off this way, but you didn't do it

Please point to me where I came off as bragging? Where have I not shown enthusiasm for more affordable pieces? I've made plenty of topics about affordable watches too, because I like them no less than a 20k Patek.

Maybe this will make a bit of sense to you. There are watches that cost sub $50 which I adore. And watches worth 30k that I despise. It's not about how much it costs, it's about what value the brand offers within it's price. It's not about the money, otherwise I wouldn't make literally the same topic about watches that cost a mere fraction of this one. Yes, this one happens to be more expensive, but it's not better than the Seiko @Malcrasternus posted.
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winged_weltall
02/25/23 5:08:27 AM
#141:


Jabodie posted...
$10k or so in today's dollars is probably the max I would pay for a watch. If I could afford a Grand Seiko...

Insane value Grand Seiko, and one of my absolute favorite. If you can rock a leather strap, check out the Omiwatari. One of their most beautiful watches ever made, sublime quality. If you want a bracelet, ditto on the White Bitch or the Night Birch. Phenomenal pieces, affordable for what you get too.

the_pika posted...
I FUCKING LOVE THESE

I had a Mario bros one, it was actually close-ish in gameplay to the original (non-super) Mario bros. It looked just like these too.

then I had a star Fox one and it was different, and it had some protuberance in the back and I convinced myself the watch had an FX chip, lol.

such nostalgia man

Honestly I adore the ethos behind this type of watch, but this one just doesn't look nice to me personally. Case looks to clunky to be a versatile piece I could wear. VG themed watches are awesome, see the Street Fighter Seiko 5 watches. Love them! (I posted about them here too when they were announced!!)
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Questionmarktarius
02/25/23 5:11:07 AM
#142:


winged_weltall posted...
Honestly I adore the ethos behind this type of watch, but this one just doesn't look nice to me personally.
The entire purpose of a Tetris watch, is Tetris.
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winged_weltall
02/25/23 5:11:24 AM
#143:


Solid_Snake07 posted...
Seems like a huge target to put on your back unless youre rich enough to have a security detail.

Or you live in a country/city where crime like that isn't a thing. Even here though, despite very very low crime, I still don't wear it everywhere. I have plenty of affodable watches costing a few hundred or less, so I'm happy when those get wrist time too!

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jon_davis
02/25/23 5:11:30 AM
#144:


winged_weltall posted...
Think what you will, but I encourage you to read my posts and tell me where I'm trying to come off as a show off or a snob. I'm genuinely curious. For me it's about sharing a hobby. I posted about a sub $200 watch that I got as a gift in December and no one made any complaint that would resemble the one made in your post.

It's baffling how insecure people get just because someone owns an expensive watch. Honestly, it's a very special watch but it's still just a watch. It's not going to change my life, but it's a nicely made item that I personally happen to think looks nice. The fact that it has a value matters to me, yes. I also like spending money on stuff that holds a little bit of value at least, even if I never want to sell it. Going on a mindless vacation and blowing 1000s isn't what I necessarily enjoy doing, nor spend it on cars (I own a 2014 Honda Civic 1.4L). Same with eating out, where I live you can easily spend $50-60 on a regular meal, I prefer learning how to cook it myself. That way I can pay less (the watches don't pay for themselves, do they!) and learn something in the process.

I've even share small videos of me making food here. I posted a pizza making video on reddit that got 340k views in 2 single days. It inspired hundreds of people (judging by what people were saying in the comments) to make pizza, use my recipe. It was really humbling and I really took the time to respond to every dm and comment. The 1 min 30s video was made as simply as possible to show people how easy it is and everyone can do it. The passion and inspiration is what I enjoy sharing. Not "hey look at this delicious food I can make" or "hey look at my cool watch you can't afford". That shit is pathetic and makes me sick. So I get pretty annoyed when these types of accusations are thrown at me.

I spend it on stuff I enjoy and that happens to be watches (amongst other things)

Sorry for the wall of text. Just trying to offer my personal perspective.


"Just bought a watch worth $65'000, what do you think?"


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Tom_Joad
02/25/23 5:12:31 AM
#145:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Still the best watch ever:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/2/AAEhCpAAENt6.jpg

I used to have that watch back in the 80s!

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winged_weltall
02/25/23 5:20:19 AM
#147:


jon_davis posted...


"Just bought a watch worth $65'000, what do you think?"

Yup, like I mentioned earlier (you must have ignored that post) I made a clickbaity title that is not factually untrue to generate some engagement in the topic.

Looks like it worked. I don't care how I come off to people who aren't willing to judge a book beyond the cover. That's their problem. I would say none of my posts in this topic came off as snobbish or arrogant. Point a single one out to me, where I ever claimed my watch to be better than an affordable alternative?
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YugiNoob
02/25/23 5:20:54 AM
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jon_davis posted...
"Just bought a watch worth $65'000, what do you think?"
This. If you honestly think that the title alone isnt showing off, then youre either trolling or extremely ignorant. Im leaning towards the former, as anyone with a shred of common sense would know that you can show your hobbies without mentioning the price.

Oh, admitting to clickbait. Then its a mix of the two.

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jon_davis
02/25/23 5:22:23 AM
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winged_weltall posted...
Yup, like I mentioned earlier (you must have ignored that post) I made a clickbaity title that is not factually untrue to generate some engagement in the topic.

Looks like it worked. I don't care how I come off to people who aren't willing to judge a book beyond the cover. That's their problem. I would say none of my posts in this topic came off as snobbish or arrogant. Point a single one out to me, where I ever claimed my watch to be better than an affordable alternative?

That much is very obvious.

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winged_weltall
02/25/23 5:50:08 AM
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the_pika posted...


nah, he was fake. TC seems to be the real deal

no_u came across as a troll in his communication sometimes, but he actually knew his stuff and you could tell he was also passionate about watches. I don't know him well, but I certainly wouldn't call him fake.

the_pika posted...
if he has TWO pateks, 2 Rolexes, a Speedmaster, and a fairly expensive bike, and he posts in CE (which means he is 40 at the oldest, 20 at the youngest) and lives in Europe he probably comes from old money and does have a security detail. And by detail I mean 1 or 2 bodyguards.

you dont own 100k worth in watches because you got early into the market, and you dont feel the need to brag all the time to a bunch of CEmen if you have an important job, so I think he comes from money.

which is not a criticism AT ALL, more power to him.

The_Pika, you seem pretty passionate about pushing this narrative about me that I'm a show off. And while I don't have to prove otherwise to be able to look at myself in the mirror, I will talk a bit about myself as it does bother me when these assumptions get thrown at me despite people being completely uninformed about who I am, yet making in depth analyses about who I have to be.

I was born in the US, mom is Swiss, lived here in Zurich 95% of my life. I'm 33 years old, I was 15 when I made this account. Been visiting this site for longer than most of you (early 2000s) and been posting on CE since 2006. 17 years by now!

I wasn't born into money at all. In fact, I come from a middle class (and I don't mean upper middle) family. I would wager many of you were more fortunate than I was, growing up. Oh, and spoiler alert:Living in Switzerland doesn't automatically mean you're rich. Really seems like that has to be said.

I have several passions, as many of you have pointed out I like to show them off. Not all my passions are linked with money. I've become a food / cooking enthusiast since the pandemic. I could make a bowl of pasta before that, no more. Motorcycling is a passion of mine too, something my brother got me into when I turned 18. Worked my ass of over every single vacation, put every single penny towards a bike, and purchased a 125cc Honda at 18.

Video games is another one, why else would I be here. I still adore video games and play them whenever I have time. First daughter was born in 2018, second in 2020. So hard to find time, but I do try to play between 10pm and 1am, which is the only time I have for leisure. 100%ed Elden Ring finished Hollow Knight very recently too (love that game) and playing Hades now.

Watches became a passion of mine since I was in my mid teens and a rich friend of mine got a Navitimer at 16 for Christmas. Typical me: I vowed to own this watch one day because I love the design so much. Fast forward 10 years where my wife and I married, and she surprised me with a brand new Breitling Navitimer. I got deep into the rabbit hole of watches and started learning more and more and more. Got even more fascinated, and started saving money from my salary (which wasn't, and still isn't huge, mind you) and put them towards watches. Yes, a substantial part of my net worth is watches, irrational? Maybe. But I do enjoy it. I bought it way before the hype. Example: My Speedmaster Professional Meteorite dial, bought it for $2900 in 2016. It's worth about 23-24k now. That's more than the Patek I just bought, and I got in for less than 3k. So yeah, 20k is fucking expensive for a watch, even for me, and it took balls to make the purchase.

How do I afford all these watches you ask? Well, it's not because of I have some crazy salary. It's thanks to being financially responsible, putting every single penny towards keeping my costs low. I bought my apartment together with my wife. We down paid about 200k which was about 23% of the place we were buying. My wife and I cleaned out our pension, took every penny from our savings, borrowed from our parents to be able to make the purchase. Again, we put together a nice situation here, but not because we (or our parents) were rich. My wife comes from a lower middle class family, her parents were refugees when they came here, with nothing. We were just responsible and on the same wavelength when it comes to spending habits. We hardly ever eat out, don't go on lavish vacations, and instead indulge in investments that make sense to us. Luckily this apartment purchase helped us keep our costs low. We live in a place now that would cost about $3500 a month, yet we're paying $800 a month mortgage and extra fees. That's a difference of $2700 a month. With our regular salaries, that means I could theoretically buy a watch of this caliber after 7-8 months thanks to one of the best decisions I made in my life (buying our apartment). Again, the luxuries I'm able to indulge in, is mostly thanks to spending habits.

Now, why did I make this topic? There are topics here being made with the title "would you have this girl her sit on your face for 3 hours?" Or "check out all these sexy asses", or clickbaity political horse shit by biased new outlets, or "rate this girl out of 10" or "JK Rowling is a racist transphobe".

All I'm doing is posting something that people here aren't posting about. A bit of variety. A bit of passion sharing. A bit of fresh air. Is that such a problem? I shared my food videos with recipes to show how easy and cheap it is to make restaurant quality food. I posted my Orient Bambino Small Seconds as a watch people here should look at because it's an insane value proposition, I posted a recipe about no-knead bread because of how simple yet delicious it is. I post about video games on other boards, because this board is made for people who want to talk about all the other stuff.

Should I only post the expensive watches every fifth topic I make? No. I'll post about whatever's on my mind. I love a good discussion/debate, and when people disagree with me, I love hearing their angle. More insight is always welcome!

I've recently had articles published on legit platforms. These articles generate thousands of clicks, get shared all over social media, get referenced etc etc. It's a lot more (positive) attention then anything I'd get here. I'm just sharing it here too, because I thought the idea of coming to a VG board (which I love and have been posting on for almost 2 fucking decades) with something fresh, and something no one else posted / talks about wasn't something that would piss off so many people.

I make maybe 4-5 topics a year, and yes, most of the time it's "hey look at this, what do you think?". Or "Check out this recipe I've learned (recipe inside)".

I do post in other people's topics. Not as much as I used to, but I still do that. So when people say "all I do is post about my wealth". Yes I've made topics about cool stuff I own, but I post in other people's topics about all kinds of different things. Financial advice, relationship advice is something I'll enjoy helping with. Video game topics as well of course.

Anyway, it's not my goal to change your opinion about me. It seems like your opinion has already been formed. The point of this wall of text was to shed a bit of light on myself, and to tell people I'm not who you say I am. Best to hear from the person themselves.

PS: I don't have a security detail. I laughed out loud when you thought I had 1 maybe2 people looking out for me. LOL thanks for that man.
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winged_weltall
02/25/23 5:59:55 AM
#151:


If you're interested in salaries, I was working the first half of last year at a company making $70k annually. Yep, you heard correctly: Less than a lot of people here. On CE, imagine that. I quit that job mid last year because I'm taking care of our daughters (2 and 4 years old). I want to be around them as much as possible before they leave for kindergarten, so happy to take a pay cut. Luckily I still have my original profession as a martial arts teacher. This was my main job from 2011 till the pandemic hit, where my entire business went belly up. Luckily I was still able to work by buying watches, servicing them through my contacts, selling them, or curating rare watches for people who had money, or buying watches and trying to sell for 10-20% more than I paid. That's another field of expertise I've been able to make some bucks here and there with. Martial arts died during the pandemic (coming back now slowly, thankfully) so the watch stuff actually saved my ass.
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Questionmarktarius
02/25/23 6:02:00 AM
#152:


winged_weltall posted...
If you're interested in salaries
Stop.

Stop now.
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