Current Events > If Trump was in office, would the Ukraine War and inflation still have happened?

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AzNDarkSamurai 02/27/23 11:39:08 AM #1:	the mother in law is very adamant about saying that everything today is Bidens fault and that if Trump was still in office, things would be much better --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! <cite>AzNDarkSamurai posted [p:971838105] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>the mother in law is very adamant about saying that everything today is Bidens fault and that if Trump was still in office, things would be much better </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 02/27/23 11:40:07 AM #2:	She forget the reason for the 1st impeachment already? If anything Trump would have ignored Nato and had American forces help Russia. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:971838129] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>She forget the reason for the 1st impeachment already? If anything Trump would have ignored Nato and had American forces help Russia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 02/27/23 11:40:37 AM #3:	A_Good_Boy posted... She forget the reason for the 1st impeachment already? If anything Trump would have ignored Nato and had American forces help Russia. Fixed for accuracy <cite>Rathinor posted [p:971838140] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>She forget the reason for the 1st impeachment already? If anything Trump would have ignored Nato and had American forces help Russia.</quote>Fixed for accuracy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DipDipDiver 02/27/23 11:40:49 AM #4:	Trump would have backed Russia <cite>DipDipDiver posted [p:971838144] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Trump would have backed Russia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 02/27/23 11:41:42 AM #5:	DipDipDiver posted... Trump would have backed Russia --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:971838162] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>DipDipDiver posted... </cite><quote>Trump would have backed Russia</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/27/23 11:42:27 AM #6:	DipDipDiver posted... Trump would have backed Russia Yeah, the orange idiot would have probably sent troops to assist Russia. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:971838177] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>DipDipDiver posted... </cite><quote>Trump would have backed Russia</quote>Yeah, the orange idiot would have probably sent troops to assist Russia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TopGoats 02/27/23 11:42:29 AM #7:	The Ukraine war (not the Ukraine, the war) happened because Putin was emboldened by four years of Trump being a dumb ass. Remember when he was impeached? Inflation LARGELY happened cuz of covid which happened on Trump's watch. So the answer is yes and both would be much, much worse because of it. --- End of passion play, crumbling away I'm your source of self-destruction <cite>TopGoats posted [p:971838179] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>The Ukraine war (not the Ukraine, the war) happened because Putin was emboldened by four years of Trump being a dumb ass. Remember when he was impeached?Inflation LARGELY happened cuz of covid which happened on Trump's watch. So the answer is yes and both would be much, much worse because of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 02/27/23 11:43:28 AM #8:	DipDipDiver posted... Trump would have backed Russia I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:971838203] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>DipDipDiver posted... </cite><quote>Trump would have backed Russia</quote>I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 02/27/23 11:43:29 AM #9:	Inflation for sure would have been the same. Ukraine would be part of Russia by now. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:971838205] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Inflation for sure would have been the same. Ukraine would be part of Russia by now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/27/23 11:44:24 AM #10:	Ukraine would've collapsed without coordinated Western support and inflation would've still been awful. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:971838227] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Ukraine would've collapsed without coordinated Western support and inflation would've still been awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 02/27/23 11:47:03 AM #11:	s0nicfan posted... I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier? Putin was getting what he wanted while Trump was president. There was no need to invade. But if he had, Trump would have either stepped aside or tried to help him <cite>Rathinor posted [p:971838295] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier?</quote>Putin was getting what he wanted while Trump was president. There was no need to invade. But if he had, Trump would have either stepped aside or tried to help him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 02/27/23 11:47:31 AM #12:	s0nicfan posted... I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier? Remember, Trump thought he was going to be a two-term president. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:971838306] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier?</quote>Remember, Trump thought he was going to be a two-term president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 02/27/23 11:48:19 AM #13:	mario2000 posted... Remember, Trump thought he was going to be a two-term president. Yes, and the idiot would have withdrawn us from NATO if he got a second term <cite>Rathinor posted [p:971838323] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>mario2000 posted... </cite><quote>Remember, Trump thought he was going to be a two-term president.</quote>Yes, and the idiot would have withdrawn us from NATO if he got a second term </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DipDipDiver 02/27/23 11:48:40 AM #14:	s0nicfan posted... I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier? Perhaps they were waiting for Trump's second term, aka the premise of this topic <cite>DipDipDiver posted [p:971838331] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier?</quote>Perhaps they were waiting for Trump's second term, aka the premise of this topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/27/23 11:49:29 AM #15:	s0nicfan posted... I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier? Lol. Lmao. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971838357] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier?</quote>Lol. Lmao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 02/27/23 11:49:52 AM #16:	Rathinor posted... Fixed for accuracy Oops, thx --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:971838368] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Rathinor posted... </cite><quote>Fixed for accuracy</quote>Oops, thx</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 02/27/23 11:50:38 AM #17:	Absolutely. All of this would have still happened. But I'm not surprised that people think "This wouldn't have happened if Trump was still president" They've been saying that since day 1 of Biden's presidency. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:971838398] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely. All of this would have still happened. But I'm not surprised that people think "This wouldn't have happened if Trump was still president" They've been saying that since day 1 of Biden's presidency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 02/27/23 11:51:54 AM #18:	COVxy posted... Lol. Lmao. He was a Trumper iirc So he probably thinks the brainwashed right wing line of "Putin didn't invade because he was afraid of Trump" bullshit <cite>Rathinor posted [p:971838432] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>Lol. Lmao.</quote>He was a Trumper iirc So he probably thinks the brainwashed right wing line of "Putin didn't invade because he was afraid of Trump" bullshit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/27/23 11:54:35 AM #19:	s0nicfan posted... I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier? With how unprepared the Russian army was when they invaded, invading earlier would have laughably worse. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:971838496] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>I will never understand this reasoning since Russia absolutely could have invaded during Trump's presidency but they didn't. If they legit thought Trump would have helped them... why wait until Biden? Why invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022 and do absolutely nothing during the Republican presidency if they were going to step aside and make it easier?</quote>With how unprepared the Russian army was when they invaded, invading earlier would have laughably worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Agonized_rufous 02/27/23 11:57:58 AM #20:	Ukraine,maybe. Trump's aggressive approach to things probably held it off during his term, but if he still went through the Afghanistan pull out, then I could see the war happening regardless Inflation was a bell that couldn't be unrung the moment COVID caused all it's economic mayhem. It might be a tad better if he decided to not send out more stimulus checks, but he loved calling them Trump checks or whatever I'd give everything a +/- 10% of severity or timing. Presidents don't have end-all-be-all power on a global scale anyway. They can do some monumental moves but it's a big place still --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Agonized_rufous posted [p:971838595] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Ukraine,maybe. Trump's aggressive approach to things probably held it off during his term, but if he still went through the Afghanistan pull out, then I could see the war happening regardlessInflation was a bell that couldn't be unrung the moment COVID caused all it's economic mayhem. It might be a tad better if he decided to not send out more stimulus checks, but he loved calling them Trump checks or whateverI'd give everything a +/- 10% of severity or timing. Presidents don't have end-all-be-all power on a global scale anyway. They can do some monumental moves but it's a big place still </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 02/27/23 12:03:50 PM #21:	Rathinor posted... He was a Trumper iirc So he probably thinks the brainwashed right wing line of "Putin didn't invade because he was afraid of Trump" bullshit Never been a trumper, and "lol" isn't a response to "if he was going to step aside and given them Ukraine, why didn't they take Ukraine?" It has nothing to do with "lol they're afraid of him"... but it's a legit question that nobody ever asks. Even in this topic, the only attempts are basically "well.. he WOULD HAVE if he got a second term" which is kind of baseless. People will point to him shitting on NATO, but he also was shitting on them for not investing enough in their own national defense and failing to meet the contributions they promises as members which, you know, is also true. Imagine if the EU was actually meeting their commitments and how different Ukraine would look right now if France was able to send more than like 6 howitzers (they can't send more, BTW, because what they sent was a full quarter of their military's inventory and they have no spares left). but it doesn't matter, because reality is what it is and they didn't invade during his presidency, but they did invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022. If your critical analysis of why that is boils down to "lol" then you're not interested in understanding the problem and we'll see this pattern repeat over and over because nothing will have changed. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:971838734] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Rathinor posted... </cite><quote>He was a Trumper iircSo he probably thinks the brainwashed right wing line of "Putin didn't invade because he was afraid of Trump" bullshit</quote>Never been a trumper, and "lol" isn't a response to "if he was going to step aside and given them Ukraine, why didn't they take Ukraine?" It has nothing to do with "lol they're afraid of him"... but it's a legit question that nobody ever asks. Even in this topic, the only attempts are basically "well.. he WOULD HAVE if he got a second term" which is kind of baseless. People will point to him shitting on NATO, but he also was shitting on them for not investing enough in their own national defense and failing to meet the contributions they promises as members which, you know, is also true. Imagine if the EU was actually meeting their commitments and how different Ukraine would look right now if France was able to send more than like 6 howitzers (they can't send more, BTW, because what they sent was a full quarter of their military's inventory and they have no spares left).but it doesn't matter, because reality is what it is and they didn't invade during his presidency, but they did invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022. If your critical analysis of why that is boils down to "lol" then you're not interested in understanding the problem and we'll see this pattern repeat over and over because nothing will have changed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 02/27/23 12:08:22 PM #22:	Trump was actively assisting literal Russian plants in Ukraine's parliament gain power. He didn't need to invade while Trump was helping him gain influence "diplomatically." --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:971838839] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Trump was actively assisting literal Russian plants in Ukraine's parliament gain power. He didn't need to invade while Trump was helping him gain influence "diplomatically." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 02/27/23 12:11:22 PM #24:	DipDipDiver posted... Trump would have backed Russia A_Good_Boy posted... She forget the reason for the 1st impeachment already? If anything Trump would have ignored Nato and had American forces help Russia. --- 11/8/2022 - The day the Blue Wall intercepted the Red Wave. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:971838911] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>DipDipDiver posted... </cite><quote>Trump would have backed Russia</quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>She forget the reason for the 1st impeachment already? If anything Trump would have ignored Nato and had American forces help Russia.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/27/23 12:13:12 PM #25:	s0nicfan posted... Never been a trumper, and "lol" isn't a response to "if he was going to step aside and given them Ukraine, why didn't they take Ukraine?" It has nothing to do with "lol they're afraid of him"... but it's a legit question that nobody ever asks. Even in this topic, the only attempts are basically "well.. he WOULD HAVE if he got a second term" which is kind of baseless. People will point to him shitting on NATO, but he also was shitting on them for not investing enough in their own national defense and failing to meet the contributions they promises as members which, you know, is also true. Imagine if the EU was actually meeting their commitments and how different Ukraine would look right now if France was able to send more than like 6 howitzers (they can't send more, BTW, because what they sent was a full quarter of their military's inventory and they have no spares left). but it doesn't matter, because reality is what it is and they didn't invade during his presidency, but they did invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022. If your critical analysis of why that is boils down to "lol" then you're not interested in understanding the problem and we'll see this pattern repeat over and over because nothing will have changed. Lol. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971838948] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>Never been a trumper, and "lol" isn't a response to "if he was going to step aside and given them Ukraine, why didn't they take Ukraine?" It has nothing to do with "lol they're afraid of him"... but it's a legit question that nobody ever asks. Even in this topic, the only attempts are basically "well.. he WOULD HAVE if he got a second term" which is kind of baseless. People will point to him shitting on NATO, but he also was shitting on them for not investing enough in their own national defense and failing to meet the contributions they promises as members which, you know, is also true. Imagine if the EU was actually meeting their commitments and how different Ukraine would look right now if France was able to send more than like 6 howitzers (they can't send more, BTW, because what they sent was a full quarter of their military's inventory and they have no spares left).but it doesn't matter, because reality is what it is and they didn't invade during his presidency, but they did invade in 2008, 2014, and 2022. If your critical analysis of why that is boils down to "lol" then you're not interested in understanding the problem and we'll see this pattern repeat over and over because nothing will have changed.</quote>Lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzNDarkSamurai 02/27/23 1:43:25 PM #26:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This sounds realistic --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! <cite>AzNDarkSamurai posted [p:971840829] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This sounds realistic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzNDarkSamurai 02/27/23 6:42:59 PM #27:	bump --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! <cite>AzNDarkSamurai posted [p:971847175] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 02/27/23 6:47:25 PM #28:	If your mother thinks inflation is because of Biden, sorry she's a dumbass and a lost cause. As for the Ukraine war, idk. There definitely would be a war, Ukraine would have just of lost much faster. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:971847276] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>If your mother thinks inflation is because of Biden, sorry she's a dumbass and a lost cause.As for the Ukraine war, idk. There definitely would be a war, Ukraine would have just of lost much faster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_pika 02/27/23 10:50:54 PM #29:	asdf8562 posted... If your mother thinks inflation is because of Biden, sorry she's a dumbass and a lost cause. As for the Ukraine war, idk. There definitely would be a war, Ukraine would have just of lost much faster. <cite>the_pika posted [p:971852457] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>asdf8562 posted... </cite><quote>If your mother thinks inflation is because of Biden, sorry she's a dumbass and a lost cause.As for the Ukraine war, idk. There definitely would be a war, Ukraine would have just of lost much faster.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzNDarkSamurai 02/27/23 11:11:21 PM #30:	asdf8562 posted... If your mother thinks inflation is because of Biden, sorry she's a dumbass and a lost cause. As for the Ukraine war, idk. There definitely would be a war, Ukraine would have just of lost much faster. you mean mother in law right? My mom is dead but if she was alive, even shed know inflation isnt caused by Biden --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! <cite>AzNDarkSamurai posted [p:971852794] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>asdf8562 posted... </cite><quote>If your mother thinks inflation is because of Biden, sorry she's a dumbass and a lost cause.As for the Ukraine war, idk. There definitely would be a war, Ukraine would have just of lost much faster.</quote>you mean mother in law right?My mom is dead but if she was alive, even shed know inflation isnt caused by Biden </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Norman_Smiley 03/02/23 6:30:01 PM #31:	Inflation would have still happened. Ukraine... who knows. On the one hand, I could see Putin waiting to see if Trump dismantles NATO or at least severely weakens it. On the other hand, he may have figured with Trump in there the US wouldn't do anything to support Ukraine. --- http://i.imgur.com/BVBQC.jpg The big wiggle equals ratings. <cite>Norman_Smiley posted [p:971914295] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Inflation would have still happened.Ukraine... who knows. On the one hand, I could see Putin waiting to see if Trump dismantles NATO or at least severely weakens it. On the other hand, he may have figured with Trump in there the US wouldn't do anything to support Ukraine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 03/02/23 6:44:13 PM #32:	Putin has been planning this invasion since at least 2014, I don't think any of this would've changed. --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:971914600] in If Trump w... [t:80362529]...</cite> <quote>Putin has been planning this invasion since at least 2014, I don't think any of this would've changed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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