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MelbuFrahma4
02/27/23 1:35:05 PM
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https://nypost.com/2023/02/27/mark-wahlberg-slammed-for-presenting-sag-award-to-asian-cast/

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BurmesePenguin
02/27/23 1:35:48 PM
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I'm all for shitting on Wahlberg.
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Number090684
02/27/23 1:51:44 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I'm all for shitting on Wahlberg.

This. Didn't he end up partially blinding his victim too?
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fhqwhgads
02/27/23 1:52:49 PM
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Well deserved. Whoever thought it was a good idea to have him present should be canned.

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COVxy
02/27/23 2:01:40 PM
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Dude was a teen boy at the time. Idk why it makes sense to chastise him for things he has publically apologized for, formally and informally, that happened at a time in development when shit like this is easy to get dragged into. If there was evidence that he still did shit like this, and that he hasn't changed, i could see it. But it sounds like people are just dragging him for things he did when he was 14-16.

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AsucaHayashi
02/27/23 2:10:44 PM
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Imagine the gymnastics going on in the head of the person who compared him to will smith slapping rock

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Gobstoppers12
02/27/23 2:11:29 PM
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Literally decades ago.

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Gritty
02/27/23 2:13:03 PM
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Eh. Hes a trumper so it still holds true
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DipDipDiver
02/27/23 2:13:04 PM
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But you guys he hasn't committed a hate crime in 30 years
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Smashingpmkns
02/27/23 2:13:10 PM
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Not Father Stu!

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Background_Guy
02/27/23 2:13:46 PM
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Okay but was anyone who was actually there mad or just random Twitter people?
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Cobra1010
02/27/23 2:16:52 PM
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COVxy posted...
Dude was a teen boy at the time. Idk why it makes sense to chastise him for things he has publically apologized for, formally and informally, that happened at a time in development when shit like this is easy to get dragged into. If there was evidence that he still did shit like this, and that he hasn't changed, i could see it. But it sounds like people are just dragging him for things he did when he was 14-16.

There's a guy who worked at one of the laundrettes in my town. He was 14 when he did sexual things with a 12 year boy.

I think they were both in their 40s when the younger guy spoke out about it. The butcher was 14 at the time but he still had to pay for his crimes. Went to prison for a few years.

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COVxy
02/27/23 2:48:14 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
There's a guy who worked at one of the laundrettes in my town. He was 14 when he did sexual things with a 12 year boy.

I think they were both in their 40s when the younger guy spoke out about it. The butcher was 14 at the time but he still had to pay for his crimes. Went to prison for a few years.

I'm not sure how you think this relates to anything.

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A_Good_Boy
02/27/23 2:50:08 PM
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COVxy posted...
Dude was a teen boy at the time. Idk why it makes sense to chastise him for things he has publically apologized for, formally and informally, that happened at a time in development when shit like this is easy to get dragged into. If there was evidence that he still did shit like this, and that he hasn't changed, i could see it. But it sounds like people are just dragging him for things he did when he was 14-16.
They could have easily dodged this controversy by having nearly anyone else present this award. You can see the criticisms coming a mile away.

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K181
02/27/23 2:51:37 PM
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Yeah, that is a yikes.

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COVxy
02/27/23 2:52:45 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
They could have easily dodged this controversy by having nearly anyone else present this award. You can see the criticisms coming a mile away.

I think the thinking "this criticism is invalid but could have been predicted if you assume people are stupid so they should have just preemptively caved to assumed stupidity" is how we get to very stupid places in society very quickly.

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legendary_zell
02/27/23 2:54:13 PM
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COVxy posted...
Dude was a teen boy at the time. Idk why it makes sense to chastise him for things he has publically apologized for, formally and informally, that happened at a time in development when shit like this is easy to get dragged into. If there was evidence that he still did shit like this, and that he hasn't changed, i could see it. But it sounds like people are just dragging him for things he did when he was 14-16.

Most teen boys manage not to commit violent hate crimes against minorities. I was a teen once and I somehow fought that urge! It seems to be pretty easy to avoid getting dragged into actually because even most KKK members and Neo Nazis avoid it. Maybe have one of those guys who didn't attempt to murder an innocent Asian man present the award to an Asian man? Just a thought.

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Dan_Haren-
02/27/23 2:54:32 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I'm all for shitting on Wahlberg.

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Dan_Haren-
02/27/23 2:55:06 PM
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He's a repeat offender, so no fuck him.
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ArchNemo
02/27/23 2:55:58 PM
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You know what doesn't help people stop being racist?

Saying that if you commit an act of racism at any point on your life you're irredeemable forever so there's no point trying to ever change because it won't be accepted.

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COVxy
02/27/23 2:56:51 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Most teen boys manage not to commit violent hate crimes against minorities. I was a teen once and I somehow fought that urge! It seems to be pretty easy to avoid getting dragged into actually because even most KKK members and Neo Nazis avoid it. Maybe have one of those guys who didn't attempt to murder an innocent Asian man present the award to an Asian man? Just a thought.

What are your thoughts on gang violence, and young boys and teens that get dragged into it?

Very similar dynamics are at play. Yeah, perhaps you didn't get mixed into a shitty in-group, but teen boys who do find it very hard to break free, for many sociodevelopmental reasons.

Again, if there's any evidence that he still acts this way, it would be a very different story.

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BurmesePenguin
02/27/23 2:57:40 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
You know what doesn't help people stop being racist?

Saying that if you commit an act of racism at any point on your life you're irredeemable forever so there's no point trying to ever change because it won't be accepted.
Punishing those people is more important than stopping racism.
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electricbugs2
02/27/23 2:58:01 PM
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The dude he attacked forgave him and he dropped trying to have his record expunged.

Having him present this award was tone deaf, but getting mad at him for shit he did when he was a 15 year old PCP addict is idiotic.

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wackyteen
02/27/23 3:02:04 PM
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I understand how it's tone deaf but I don't see the point in bring something up that happened in the 80s, given he owns up to it and it being bad.

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legendary_zell
02/27/23 3:02:59 PM
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COVxy posted...
What are your thoughts on gang violence, and young boys and teens that get dragged into it?

Very similar dynamics are at play. Yeah, perhaps you didn't get mixed into a shitty in-group, but teen boys who do find it very hard to break free, for many sociodevelopmental reasons.


Even most people who get involved in violently, explicitly racist movements/gangs at a young age don't do what he did. We can have discussions about general forgiveness or what level of stigma he should still face at this point, but there's just no reason to have him be the one giving awards in this situation. I'm not saying he can't act or that he should be thrown in a dungeon, but this is an honor and a privilege and more importantly, it's an honor for the group he targeted.

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COVxy
02/27/23 3:08:50 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Even most people who get involved in violently, explicitly racist movements/gangs at a young age don't do what he did. We can have discussions about general forgiveness or what level of stigma he should still face at this point, but there's just no reason to have him be the one giving awards in this situation. I'm not saying he can't act or that he should be thrown in a dungeon, but this is an honor and a privilege and more importantly, it's an honor for the group he targeted.

I don't think you have any idea how common it is for teen boys to be driven to do things they would never do on their own because of the group dynamics that surround them.

I think if you have any evidence that this wasn't just that, then maybe your concern is warrented. Otherwise, all you're doing is repeatedly kicking somebody who has not only paid for their crimes formally though sentencing, but also informally through apologies and repentance. If your stance is that all (or even most, or much) of behavior is driven by innate qualities, then we fundamentally differ in our views (and mine is the one supported by data, unfortunately for ease of discourse).

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kage_53
02/27/23 3:09:29 PM
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People in this thread are hypocrites. You guys slam on him for stuff that he did as a teen that he has apologized for multiple times.

If you got the guts, why dont you guys reveal all of the worst things you have ever done?
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meestermj
02/27/23 3:10:28 PM
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kage_53 posted...
People in this thread are hypocrites. You guys slam on him for stuff that he did as a teen that he has apologized for multiple times.

If you got the guts, why dont you guys reveal all of the worst things you have ever done?
I think he's served his time and shouldn't be shit on for it, but they definitely should have picked someone else to present the award.

Edit: I've also been more than open in the past about my life so....cool? If people want topic# 1000 about my violent criminal childhood and then eventually getting my step sister pregnant then sure.

Of y'all could just look through "that site" for all the many times it's been discussed before. On my old username too (that I unfortunately can't recover).

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DipDipDiver
02/27/23 3:41:19 PM
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kage_53 posted...
People in this thread are hypocrites. You guys slam on him for stuff that he did as a teen that he has apologized for multiple times.

If you got the guts, why dont you guys reveal all of the worst things you have ever done?
If I literally committed violent hate crimes against multiple people including children, served a month and a half for it, then spent the rest of my life as a rich and famous public figure, I think it would be unreasonable for me to expect people to pretend the hate crimes didn't happen
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Gobstoppers12
02/27/23 4:36:56 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
then spent the rest of my life as a rich and famous public figure
Shut the fuck up.

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DarthAragorn
02/27/23 4:54:44 PM
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kage_53 posted...
People in this thread are hypocrites. You guys slam on him for stuff that he did as a teen that he has apologized for multiple times.

If you got the guts, why dont you guys reveal all of the worst things you have ever done?
I've said some dumb shit on GameFAQs, I haven't brutally assaulted a man for being Asian

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cjsdowg
02/27/23 5:01:19 PM
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COVxy posted...
If there was evidence that he still did shit like this, and that he hasn't changed

He supports Trump

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ShadowMan033
02/27/23 5:07:18 PM
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My buddy has been working in Hollywood for almost 15 years now and other than working on Black Panther Wakanda Forever, he said the worst time hes ever had on a movie set was dealing with Mark Wahlberg

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electricbugs2
02/27/23 5:10:27 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
He supports Trump
So what? Nothing to do with anything.

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FortuneCookie
02/27/23 5:41:29 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
So what? Nothing to do with anything.

Someone who has perpetrated crimes against Asians supporting a man who has espoused anti-Asian rhetoric has nothing to do with anything?
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CyricZ
02/27/23 5:47:36 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
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It was supposed to be Father Stud but they ran out of rhinestones.

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crayola555
02/27/23 5:52:42 PM
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COVxy posted...
Dude was a teen boy at the time. Idk why it makes sense to chastise him for things he has publically apologized for, formally and informally, that happened at a time in development when shit like this is easy to get dragged into. If there was evidence that he still did shit like this, and that he hasn't changed, i could see it. But it sounds like people are just dragging him for things he did when he was 14-16.

Has he apologized for it? Last I read he was trying to get his crimes "pardoned" so he could start new or something, I didn't read him apologizing to anyone or reaching out to mend things

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Mistere_Man
02/27/23 5:55:41 PM
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crayola555 posted...
Has he apologized for it? Last I read he was trying to get his crimes "pardoned" so he could start new or something, I didn't read him apologizing to anyone or reaching out to mend things
I have heard he has, and the person he did it to has even forgiven him.

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cjsdowg
02/27/23 5:58:30 PM
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He also called a movie. The Women are talking in not Women Talking. So he got blow back for that too.

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Anteaterking
02/27/23 6:00:32 PM
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Independently of whether he's been contrite enough or w/e, the zoomer approach to things of "I'm outraged because I just learned about this thing, so that means no one else knew it before now" is always eyeroll-y.

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Savoots
02/27/23 6:03:31 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Independently of whether he's been contrite enough or w/e, the zoomer approach to things of "I'm outraged because I just learned about this thing, so that means no one else knew it before now" is always eyeroll-y.

This annoys the shit out of me.

Like I heard a co-worker complain about Seinfeld, and I'm like that show ended before you were even born and now you want to be retroactively offended for whatever reason.

Has a generation ever been this radicalized since the 60s?

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BurmesePenguin
02/27/23 6:04:31 PM
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Savoots posted...
This annoys the shit out of me.

Like I heard a co-worker complain about Seinfeld, and I'm like that show ended before you were even born and now you want to be retroactively offended for whatever reason.

Has a generation ever been this radicalized since the 60s?
Don't you regulatory get put on time out for shitting your pants about liberals on the politics board?

Seeing as this definitely isn't your original account you have presumably been banned for it as well. Well, not your only account, at least.
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VeggetaX
02/27/23 6:08:58 PM
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Mark did make a movie with a huge cast of Asian people before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHDu5KBH3rg

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Bass_X0
02/27/23 6:09:51 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I'm all for shitting on Wahlberg.

What!? No!

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Savoots
02/27/23 6:21:04 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Don't you regulatory get put on time out for shitting your pants about liberals on the politics board?

Seeing as this definitely isn't your original account you have presumably been banned for it as well. Well, not your only account, at least.

You don't know what you're talking about, and your post had nothing to do with mine.

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EnterTheTekken
03/01/23 9:28:07 AM
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I don't understand the animosity. Should Mike Tyson never present an award for a woman? Or be a presenter or attend a public event that involves women?

Both paid their dues and have been separated by 3 decades of their past offenses.

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Hoodroar
03/01/23 9:30:40 AM
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Wahlberg keeps going for this type of thing to rehabilitate his image and prove he's a good guy now.

But it'd be best for him to just let the matter rest. You can't undo certain things.

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