Current Events > Replaying Falllout 4 and man its still sooooo good

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Sure it's got its flaws (it Is Bethesda after all) but man it's just so fun.

I keep planning to do 1 thing, getting sidetracked and then 2 hours of fun later I'm on the other side of the map and still haven't done the thing i set out to do

No

Yes

A nearby settlement needs help. Here, I'll mark it on your map. (x100)

I've had lots of fun with it too even if it's not as good as NV. I can understand not liking it as much, but the venom it gets is a bit much. I had lots of fun just building settlements with different themes and such. Made an old west town on the beach, big "cities" in Sanctuary and the drive in theater, a big island base on Spectacle Island and tons more over the years.

Southernfatman posted...

I've had lots of fun with it too even if it's not as good as NV. I can understand not liking it as much, but the venom it gets is a bit much. I had lots of fun just building settlements with different themes and such. Made an old west town on the beach, big "cities" in Sanctuary and the drive in theater, a big island base on Spectacle Island and tons more over the years.

I think it gets a lot of venom because getting called to settlements over and over gets old quick. Also the writing, dialogue, and plot holes are comically bad.

It has satisfying game play feedback imo.

Idk if I'd call it a game play loop but it definitely feels satisfying doing things in the game.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

A nearby settlement needs help. Here, I'll mark it on your map. (x100)

There's plenty of non-radiant quests to pursue and complete.

Theyre also generally optional and easy to avoid.

I finished a playthrough not too long back, and I can't remember Preston giving me a single settlement quest apart from the one you always get at the beginning.

I want to do another playthrough in VR but the version was just put out with no support after release. I got it working alright but the time it took to do that wasnt worth it. One day ill give it another go.

Will you help me?

1. Yes
2. Maybe (yes but later)
3. Sarcastic No (snide remark but still yes)
4. No. (But really yes)

Nah, the Fallout series is just bad.

Euripides posted...

Nah, the Fallout series is just bad.

Most characters only have one dump stat but you probably have seven.

Euripides posted...

Nah, the Fallout series is just bad.

Quite possibly the worst post I've ever read.
Fallout is great.

Its pretty cool if you dont do the main quest and it has decent shooting

Vyrulisse posted...

Quite possibly the worst post I've ever read.
Fallout is great.

Terrible frame rate
Full of glitches
Terrible voice acting
Terrible side quests
Huge sections of map with nothing in it.

Nah, it's bad

Euripides posted...

Terrible frame rate
Full of glitches
Terrible voice acting
Terrible side quests
Huge sections of map with nothing in it.

Nah, it's bad

Right, every game in the Fallout series has all of these flaws. Clearly.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Right, every game in the Fallout series has all of these flaws. Clearly.

I played 3, NV and 4

That was enough

https://youtu.be/WQ6SvS-iW30

Euripides posted...

I played 3, NV and 4

That was enough

I'm sorry about your crippling lack of taste if you played those and think it's a terrible series.

Euripides posted...

Terrible frame rate
Full of glitches
Terrible voice acting
Terrible side quests
Huge sections of map with nothing in it.

Nah, it's bad

It's no small feat to be a bigger troll than UR in a Fallout topic, especially considering UR made the topic. *golf claps*

Anyone who's into settlement building should try out Medieval Dynasty. It's like someone took the settlement building from F4, made everything work the way it's supposed to, multiplied the building cap by like 100, and made it the entire game. I have a 70 person settlement right now and still room to grow.

I still haven't beaten Fallout 4 despite spending hundreds of hours on it. It's a fun game for what it does. The DLC is relatively weak, though. It's a Bethesda game. If you're playing a Bethesda game, you know what you're getting into.

Alucard188 posted...

The DLC is relatively weak, though.

ehhhhhhh

Far Harbor was awesome DLC. Honestly I think it's one of the best DLCs of that gen

Alucard188 posted...

I still haven't beaten Fallout 4 despite spending hundreds of hours on it. It's a fun game for what it does. The DLC is relatively weak, though. It's a Bethesda game. If you're playing a Bethesda game, you know what you're getting into.

Much has been said about Far Harbor being one of Bethesda's best DLCs since Shivering Isles, and while that's not exactly stellar praise in and of itself, I can't say I disagree.

Automatron is short and the plot is iffy, but it does have a level of customization in the robot creation that I honestly never would have expected in a Bethesda game.

My expectations going into Nuka World were very low, so I was pleasantly surprised with all the effort and little nods they put in to make it a genuine parody of Disney World, and not just some generic theme park. The story's dogshit though; unless you're one of those gamers who enjoys being evil just for the sake of it, there's no reason not to just wipe out the raider gangs at first opportunity and explore the park at your leisure.

I wouldn't exactly refute the notion of FO4's DLC being weak, but overall I'd rank it higher than Skyrim's and considerably higher than FO3's.

Ive sunk many an hour into the game, but have yet to finish the main quest. I think I always stop at the point you enter the Institute.

I also still need to try an energy weapons build and a heavy weapons build. I always gravitate to sniper/shotgun, it seems.

My favorite DLC was Nuka World for the setting alone. They did a good job with it and exploring the park was so much fun. The story was bleh and only works if you're a raider character, but it is fun when you are one. They still could have done more with liberating the park. I wanted to go in there with a big Minutemen squad and free everyone.

An issue I have with it, which is a problem with Bethesda Fallout's raiders in general, is that they're all generic drug fueled psychopaths who have human remains everywhere. 2 of the 3 gangs in NW were that with one just being more colorful. There was a more traditional like gang, but they're still kinda eh.

Far Harbor was good, but it reminded me too much of Point Lookout from 3, which sort of knocked off a few points for me.

chris60050 posted...

I think it gets a lot of venom because getting called to settlements over and over gets old quick. Also the writing, dialogue, and plot holes are comically bad.

I mean yeah it's pretty flawed, but some act like it's complete unplayable garbage with no good merits.

masterpug53 posted...

The story's dogshit though; unless you're one of those gamers who enjoys being evil just for the sake of i

This is why I "ehhhhhhhhhhhh"ed at that guy who pissed all over the DLCs

Sure the Mechanist and Vault-Tec DLC is meh

But Far Harbour is pretty good

Nuka-World is inventive wtith its ideas/areas and also allows players to be evil. One of the big fan complaints about Fallout 4 is that it's hard to be a bad guy. All the main quests are good by default, all but 1.5 of the companions are good people and people who reveled in siding with the Leigon, selling slaves to Paradise Falls, blowing up Megaton, being slavers in FO2 etc, all were pissed

And i really can't fault Bethesda for listening to feedback and trying to give people something they like.

I play as a good guy so it means nothing to me but getting to be a raider and fucking over the Minute Men was something a solid core of the fanbase wanted.

Southernfatman posted...

An issue I have with it, which is a problem with Bethesda Fallout's raiders in general, is that they're all generic drug fueled psychopaths who have human remains everywhere.

Actually this is a pet peeve of mine. That EVERY raider camp had mannequin dioramas and heads on sticks and impaled corpses.

That stuff is fine but when literally every raider group in the commonwealth including the Gunners who are meant to be organized and sane mercs, all seem to spend all their free time making these elaborate art projects in every encampment, it just gets silly. It's not even scary or intimidating because every fucker does it and in canon seems to have to put tons of effort and time into doing so.

I know Bethesda are worried that Joe Casual will miss it but it would be more effective if only one raider group did that.

Ironically The Triggermen don't and they stick out simply because they don't do it... And they only appear in 2 locations for pre-set quests

As a game it's fine. It's just lacking the RPG elements and general atmosphere that made 3 and NV so loved. Wouldn't surprise me if the next FO game was more like a Ubisoft game than FO3.

Nah

Honestly if you just like messing around in a fallout world, you should give Fallout 76 a try. They've improved on it a ton since it's horrific launch. Lots of NPCs around the map now, plenty of questlines and you can level up as much as you want (max level is 32,767 but you can max out your build long before that).

I just started playing Fallout 76 and I feel nothing when I play it.

I dont despise it or anything. I dont hate it. But I dont experience fun either. Its like I'm just in this void.

It was my first Fallout game essentially... I really enjoyed it. And the DLC was spectacular.

Harbor was sick!!

The following video was what made me sour on Bethesdas handling of the Fallout franchise, just sayin. Spoilers obviously since the dude is analyzing the story and the many flaws with it in addition to the gameplay elements.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9XogAdi3j38

How was the DLC for FO3? I never played it.

SHRIKE posted...

How was the DLC for FO3? I never played it.

It's a mixed bag.

There's an alien one which is a fun concept but falls down a bit since it's nearly the entire DLC is just dull gray corridors
One where you go to Pittsburgh and everything sucks because it's Pittsburgh
And one where there's a new map and it's fine but it's just kinda.... more of Fallout 3

Which isn't a bad thing I guess It just feels like they missed the chance to do new stuff. Nuka World and far Farbour where at least new ideas

Same in New Vegas. Except Honest Hearts, every DLC tried soemthing different.

SHRIKE posted...

How was the DLC for FO3? I never played it.

The Pitt was solid. Point Lookout gave you a fairly neat worldspace to explore. Operation: Anchorage and Broken Steel were bad. Mothership Zeta is often mocked as Bethesda's worst addon outside of Horse Armor, and rightfully so.

Alucard188 posted...

I still haven't beaten Fallout 4 despite spending hundreds of hours on it. It's a fun game for what it does. The DLC is relatively weak, though. It's a Bethesda game. If you're playing a Bethesda game, you know what you're getting into.

I liked Nuka World despite them giving you an all or nothing ending. Mods fixed that for me though.

masterpug53 posted...

Broken Steel were bad.

masterpug53 posted...

Mothership Zeta is often mocked as Bethesda's worst addon outside of Horse Armor, and rightfully so.

Bad take central station right here

I4NRulez posted...

I liked Nuka World despite them giving you an all or nothing ending. Mods fixed that for me though.

I mean the plot is a gaggle of raid factions team up to kill and enslave everyone in the land

I don't really see how it could have a middle ground ending. I can't fault them for that

masterpug53 posted...

The Pitt was solid. Point Lookout gave you a fairly neat worldspace to explore. Operation: Anchorage and Broken Steel were bad. Mothership Zeta is often mocked as Bethesda's worst addon outside of Horse Armor, and rightfully so.

Broken Steel was almost mandatory for fixing the ending and allowing you to keep playing post game. I thought it was awesome, same with The Pitt and Point Lookout. Anchorage was stupid, trying to lean into shooting in a game that...wasn't the best at it. And Zeta was meh.

I thought the FO3 DLC was quite solid tbqh.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

A nearby settlement needs help. Here, I'll mark it on your map. (x100)

I think i like games others hate cause I can identify unimportant stuff and never think about it again. If it's something that pops up on screen I just look at it for a second and immediately forget about it.

The settlement never felt like something I had to do in the 400+ hours I played Fallout 4. I just did it when I felt like it. A lot of games are only as much of a chore as you make them.

But tbf, cluttered HUD annoys me now. So, it's not that I can ignore absolutely everything I don't care for. It's hit or miss

I play it a bit now and then, but usually fall into the same rut: developing a water farm to buy concrete to build settlements (that I never populate since the AI is trash). I'm sure things are better on PC when you don't need max Science and other skills just to build the best defenses.

Shotgunnova posted...

I'm sure things are better on PC when you don't need max Science and other skills just to build the best defenses.

i honestly used sim settlements for my places. It makes way better buildings that i or the base game will do.

I will never forgive Far Harbor for how they handled The Mariner quest line.

Turning it into a joke at the end really rubbed me the wrong way because I was honestly invested in helping this terminally ill woman before she died.

I really struggle to replay it now. It feels like I'm doing the exact same stuff on each playthrough, and the voice acting doesn't help. That's the biggest detriment I think to the voiced player character. Every character feels the same. I suppose they are really. You're playing more of a defined character than a blank slate. Which I think is alright on a more linear narrative focussed game like Mass Effect or even the post-EA Dragon Age games, but on a massive open world thing with crafting and stuff, I find it gets really old.

Fallout 4 is a fine FPS I guess

That's about as much as I can say about it

i got soo bored of fallout 4 after i had upgraded the shotgun to shoot explosive pellets. decimated everything real quick

also fallout 4 was the main reason why i bought the ps4

They're coming out with a next generation update that should make the game more fun.

Savoots posted...

They're coming out with a next generation update that should make the game more fun.

oh damn I forgot about that. Do we have any news on when it's releasing?

Savoots posted...

They're coming out with a next generation update that should make the game more fun.

Is that not going to be just a better framerate on consoles and that's about it?