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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 11:59:25 AM
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The 6900xt is as powerful as a 3090 and only 600 bucks. Wtf are you doing paying 1k for the equivalent?

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Turbam
03/13/23 12:00:37 PM
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You can't fool anyone, Lisa Su

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apolloooo
03/13/23 12:01:11 PM
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Amd has shit software

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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 12:01:29 PM
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apolloooo posted...
Amd has shit software
Nah

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dummy420
03/13/23 12:01:57 PM
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I am going to do a AMD build this gen. Didn't like the drivers in the past but I'll give the 7900xtx a chance.

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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 12:04:36 PM
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dummy420 posted...
I am going to do a AMD build this gen. Didn't like the drivers in the past but I'll give the 7900xtx a chance.
I see it's only 800 bucks. Mighty tempting. I'd have to get a new psu if i got it tho

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Fable
03/13/23 12:06:52 PM
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No DLSS and worse Raytracing tho.

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voldothegr8
03/13/23 12:10:04 PM
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Fable posted...
No DLSS and worse Raytracing tho.
FSR has come a long way and doesn't need dedicated hardware to do it.

RT still isn't worth the performance hits.

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Ratchetrockon
03/13/23 12:13:23 PM
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how does it compare to rtx 4070ti which seems a bit more expensive than the rx 6900xt but only by like $200 or so

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--Zero-
03/13/23 12:14:20 PM
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Fable posted...
No DLSS and worse Raytracing tho.

This. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a shameless android over apple fanboy.

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Fable
03/13/23 12:16:00 PM
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--Zero- posted...
This. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a shameless android over apple fanboy.

Ok let's not get carried away. Aside from ipads, all apple products are p. trash.

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roos1046_Reborn
03/13/23 12:17:53 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Nah

Yea

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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 12:18:59 PM
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Fable posted...
No DLSS and worse Raytracing tho.
Raytracing is nothing more than a meme. It's shit

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ellis123
03/13/23 12:19:13 PM
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After two decades of using ATi/AMD stuffs I'm not using them if I can help it.

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--Zero-
03/13/23 12:19:24 PM
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Fable posted...
Ok let's not get carried away. Aside from ipads, all apple products are p. trash.

iPhones are superior though in every way. Prove me wrong.

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--Zero-
03/13/23 12:20:07 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Raytracing is nothing more than a meme. It's shit

That meme is going to hold your gpu back from its full potential and maxing out modern games.

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CommonStar
03/13/23 12:20:49 PM
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I wish AMD did better in AI generation and encoding, otherwise I'd definitely prefer AMD.

FSR has come a long way and ray tracing is still not worth the performance hit.
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Fable
03/13/23 12:21:18 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Raytracing is nothing more than a meme. It's shit

Depends on the game. DLSS is the main argument here.

--Zero- posted...
iPhones are superior though in every way. Prove me wrong.

It's your opinion. Doesn't matter if it's bad because nothing I say would convince you.

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MacadamianNut3
03/13/23 12:25:13 PM
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AMD doesn't have CUDA and they have to use an emulator for TensorFlow. So if you want to game and also run those fancy schmancy generative models on your computer and not the cloud you're just shit out of luck

So until AMD joins the party Nvidia remains king even with that stingy midget in a leather jacket leading the company

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dummy420
03/13/23 12:25:28 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
I see it's only 800 bucks. Mighty tempting. I'd have to get a new psu if i got it tho
Xt is 800. XTX is the 4080 equivalent for 200 cheaper so 1k.

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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 12:32:48 PM
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Not one of these cards can run Cyberpunk 4k with Ray tracing at 60. They can barely do 30. Fuck it

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VirtuousWrath
03/13/23 12:33:51 PM
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Doesn't matter, Nvidia has CUDA.

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SuperShake666
03/13/23 12:37:18 PM
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Fuck Nvidia and their overpriced, proprietary shit.

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CaptainStrong
03/13/23 12:38:52 PM
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--Zero- posted...
That meme is going to hold your gpu back from its full potential and maxing out modern games.
I'd rather have a game run at native 2160p at a playable frame rate than have upscaled 720p or 1080p with slightly better reflections and/or shadows.
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Ratchetrockon
03/13/23 12:45:07 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
I'd rather have a game run at native 2160p at a playable frame rate than have upscaled 720p or 1080p with slightly better reflections and/or shadows.
Ofc imo

Dlss with sharpening better than native res + taa

Dlss with sharpening vs native res + dlaa. The latter is better for sure but not night and day. Maybe like 10% better looking.

I prefer native res without anti aliasing overall but I notice some of these dlss supported games doesn't have option to turn off anti aliasing what the frick!!!! So bs

*using the most up-to-date version of dlss 2.0 quality setting at 4k. sharpening i set to 0.5 up to 0.8 it depends on my mood. basically like 1440p upscale to 2160p at least that what it says in menu. Dlss balance pretty similar looking tho ngl (something like 56% of 4k so above 1080p and closer to 1440p). also yes ive also compared native 1440p to 4k + dlss quality setting. the latter is just wayyy better looking. it is true that it looks pretty damn similar to native 4k just w/ some weird shimmering stuff thgat is mainly noticeable when sharpening is set too high i forgot what it called.

also i do this comparison on a 55 inch TV. I sit about 3 feet away from it tbh lol. Sometimes it hurts my eyes

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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 12:53:35 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Xt is 800. XTX is the 4080 equivalent for 200 cheaper so 1k.
Ahh. A bit pricy for me. I wanna get the most I can out of 4k gaming but I'm on a budget as well. I'm really close to just buying a 6900xt

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dummy420
03/13/23 4:13:41 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Ahh. A bit pricy for me. I wanna get the most I can out of 4k gaming but I'm on a budget as well. I'm really close to just buying a 6900xt
Sounds like the 7900XT is just $100 more if you are looking to buy. I havent really looked though outside of a quick search. 7900XT is probably a bit harder to find since it just announced the price cut.

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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 5:36:55 PM
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It's more like 200 more. The 6900 is going for 650 on Amazon. Not sure if the extra cash will be getting me much

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dummy420
03/13/23 5:51:32 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
It's more like 200 more. The 6900 is going for 650 on Amazon. Not sure if the extra cash will be getting me much
Well I was wrong then. Either way its gonna be good. Im gonna be going from a 1080Ti to a 7900XTX build. the 1080Ti is still great but ive been itching for an upgrade and the new console gen has started.

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Axiom
03/13/23 5:59:23 PM
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No it's not. They still aren't able to compete with Nvidia which is why Nvidia prices it the way they do. They're superior and they know it

AMDs cards are improving slowly but they are nowhere near worth it unless you are on a budget

AMD excels at processors and frankly I'll choose them over intel anyday but GPUs Nvidia is still king
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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 6:01:07 PM
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Axiom posted...
No it's not. They still aren't able to compete with Nvidia which is why Nvidia prices it the way they do. They're superior and they know it

AMDs cards are improving slowly but they are nowhere near worth it unless you are on a budget

AMD excels at processors and frankly I'll choose them over intel anyday but GPUs Nvidia is still king
You've been drinking too much of that Nvidia kool-aid. The 7900xt is no slouch and hundreds of dollars cheaper than the 4080

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Lonestar2000
03/13/23 6:04:50 PM
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Nvidia has better hardware and software.

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Blue_Inigo
03/13/23 6:05:23 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Well I was wrong then. Either way its gonna be good. Im gonna be going from a 1080Ti to a 7900XTX build. the 1080Ti is still great but ive been itching for an upgrade and the new console gen has started.
Well yeah either one will do you good. If you don't mind paying upper 800s for it, you've got one of the best graphics cards bar none

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ToadallyAwesome
03/13/23 6:12:23 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
You've been drinking too much of that Nvidia kool-aid. The 7900xt is no slouch and hundreds of dollars cheaper than the 4080

Cheaper doesnt make it better. Its just more economical. If it doesnt do what the buyer wants then the savings are moot.

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Hoodroar
03/13/23 6:18:28 PM
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This. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a shameless android over apple fanboy.

Only things worth using from Apple are their pods.

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inTaCtfuL
03/13/23 6:22:57 PM
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AMD has better GPUs in the lower/mid range

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Solar_Crimson
03/13/23 9:15:46 PM
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I use Daz Studio as a hobbyist and its Iray rendering technology only works properly with NVidia, so I don't reallyhave a choice.

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Blue_Inigo
03/14/23 1:12:49 AM
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Changed my mind @dummy420

The 7900 xt is my goal

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FL81
03/14/23 2:02:41 AM
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I've had too many bad experiences with AMD cards in the past, whereas Nvidia just works fine out of the box every time I've owned their cards.

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008Zulu
03/14/23 2:04:02 AM
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The amount of tech support I have had to help with the shitty drivers for the nvidia 3000 series has kept me pretty busy the last few months.

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Vyrulisse
03/14/23 2:11:36 AM
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Is Nvidia still pushing proprietary shit to make their cards look better in games? Never could support them after reading about all the dirty shit they pull that has nothing to do with hardware.

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Blue_Inigo
03/15/23 11:00:59 AM
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I got a 7900xt on backorder. It has begun. Should be a nice jump from a 2070 super

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Kloe_Rinz
03/15/23 11:01:56 AM
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did AMD ever solve their driver and software issues? the value of nvidia was always their drivers and support
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voldothegr8
03/15/23 11:07:56 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
did AMD ever solve their driver and software issues? the value of nvidia was always their drivers and support
That used to be their value, these days it's their proprietary hardware. The whole "AMD drivers suck" mantra is way overblown and really not true anymore.

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Rexdragon125
03/15/23 11:14:19 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
That used to be their value, these days it's their proprietary hardware. The whole "AMD drivers suck" mantra is way overblown and really not true anymore.
Uhhuh sure
https://www.techradar.com/news/warning-amd-graphics-driver-bug-could-brick-your-windows-11-pc
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voldothegr8
03/15/23 11:29:25 AM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
Uhhuh sure
https://www.techradar.com/news/warning-amd-graphics-driver-bug-could-brick-your-windows-11-pc
https://www.pcgamer.com/ both-amd-and-nvidias-latest-drivers-can-do-very-bad-things-to-your-gaming-pc

Nvidia isn't perfect either and the AMD thing is more Microsoft's doing than anything.

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FaultyCircuitry
03/15/23 11:33:59 AM
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High end GPUs are not worth it unless you're goal is 4k120 which is honestly not worth it. (Or if you're a prosumer who will actually use the power of the cards for something beyond gaming)

4k is not worth it for PC gaming in 2023. Too much of a cost for not enough of an upgrade over 1440

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Will_VIIII
03/15/23 11:34:55 AM
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I ordered the Intel Arc a770 last night XD

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Blue_Inigo
03/15/23 4:52:09 PM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
High end GPUs are not worth it unless you're goal is 4k120 which is honestly not worth it. (Or if you're a prosumer who will actually use the power of the cards for something beyond gaming)

4k is not worth it for PC gaming in 2023. Too much of a cost for not enough of an upgrade over 1440
I want to be able to play 99% of games at 4k60fps with medium to high settings. That rx 7900xt can do that and it's cheaper than a buncha the other big cards.

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refmon
03/15/23 4:54:43 PM
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Are AMD drivers still dogshit?

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