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Nintendo_Porn
03/14/23 1:19:01 PM
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https://people.com/crime/minnesota-man-allegedly-killed-sex-offender-moose-antler/

I hate preds as much as the next guy, but god damn. Uncle was a police chief, and still pulled a jason todd.

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Doom_Art
03/14/23 1:19:42 PM
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I feel like this was a character on Hannibal

"This is my design."

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DipDipDiver
03/14/23 1:29:13 PM
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I don't understand how he's only charged with second degree, he literally went to this man's home for the specific purpose of murdering him
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andel
03/14/23 1:32:38 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
I don't understand how he's only charged with second degree, he literally went to this man's home for the specific purpose of murdering him

it didn't say that, it said he found the weapons on the porch of the guys house. he may have gone to confront him and snapped.

people convicted of child sex offenses should be one of the only things that carries life in prison along with premeditated murder and forcible rape and terrorism imo. the fact the sex offender was released 40 years ago makes this puzzling though. hopefully more information comes out.

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DipDipDiver
03/14/23 1:35:25 PM
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Oh yeah I'm sure he was just going to have a polite conversation with him but instead decided to enter his home and beat him with a shovel
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meestermj
03/14/23 1:35:59 PM
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Authorities say Axtell, 27, allegedly arrived at the police station and admitted to driving to the home of a 77-year-old man, entering the victim's residence, and hitting him over the head "15-20 times with a spade-style shovel" that he allegedly found on his front porch.

Axtell allegedly said he "finished him off" by striking him on the head several times with a large moose antler, the documents state.

God damn.

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COVxy
03/14/23 1:36:19 PM
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How the fuck is this 2nd degree murder? Like, dude drove to the guy's house in order to kill him.

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Patchwork
03/14/23 1:37:11 PM
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Sounds like a victimless crime.

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voldothegr8
03/14/23 1:38:44 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
I don't understand how he's only charged with second degree, he literally went to this man's home for the specific purpose of murdering him
Prosecutors often won't go for first degree unless it's a slam dunk, no questions on motive or evidence, because it's hard to prove even if it looks blatant. Considering this guy's motive, there could be a sliver of doubt that gets him off. Charging him with second degree ensures he'll get convinced.

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DipDipDiver
03/14/23 1:39:31 PM
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Patchwork posted...
Sounds like a victimless crime.
Hey someone had to clean that up

Try to be more sensitive
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COVxy
03/14/23 1:40:02 PM
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There's no doubt, only appeal to vigilantism when it comes to sex offenders.

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Patchwork
03/14/23 1:40:35 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
Hey someone had to clean that up

Try to be more sensitive

Fair point. To them I say, my condolences.

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PoopPotato
03/14/23 1:42:51 PM
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That's pretty metal.
"moose bludgeon"


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CRON
03/14/23 2:00:12 PM
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My condolences to whoever was inconvenienced with having to clean up the mess.

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A_Good_Boy
03/14/23 2:00:54 PM
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Sounds like he should have alerted the cops, not show up at the dude's home and beat him with a shovel then finish him off with a moose antler. For whatever his "good intentions" were worth, the dude is going to jail for them. There are far more simpler ways to accomplish your goals than to commit several felonies.

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deanshow
03/14/23 2:08:12 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Prosecutors often won't go for first degree unless it's a slam dunk, no questions on motive or evidence, because it's hard to prove even if it looks blatant. Considering this guy's motive, there could be a sliver of doubt that gets him off. Charging him with second degree ensures he'll get convinced.
Yep you're right. We've seen what happens when you overcharge people

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Psyloshsr
03/14/23 2:13:33 PM
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Patchwork posted...
Sounds like a victimless crime.
I'd usually agree with this, but the guy was released from jail over 40 years ago, there's no mention of any other crimes, and the entire justification came down to he thought he'd do it again.

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Alucard188
03/14/23 2:16:33 PM
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So the dude went vigilante justice on a guy that committed his crimes well before he was even born. Okay then.

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Lokison
03/15/23 9:42:17 AM
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Damn..

I hope they give him a TV in his cell.

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Kakapo
03/15/23 9:53:57 AM
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Citing Cook County Sheriff Pat Eliasen, the outlet reports Scully was convicted of the sexual assault of a 6-year-old girl in 1979. In 1982, he was released from prison.
Court documents state Axtell believed Scully had "sexually offended children in the past" and observed him "parked in his vehicle at locations where children were present and believed he would reoffend."

Sounds like this guy was just cleaning up his neighbourhood.

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Nintendo_Porn
03/16/23 9:43:48 PM
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I can't get over this...the dude not even getting a nickel is rage inducing.

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Chicken
03/16/23 9:48:16 PM
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The amount of support for the predator in this thread

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Nintendo_Porn
03/16/23 9:51:30 PM
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Chicken posted...
The amount of support for the predator in this thread

Preds are the lowest of the low inside for a reason - So, being the nephew of a police chief, and killing a chomo would make him made inside.

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Patchwork
03/16/23 10:02:33 PM
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I can separate my personal opinion that pedophiles are all subhuman from my work. Im an adult.

Anyone who rapes a six year old child should never have been released back into society in the first place. The way sex crimes are treated in this country is an absolute travesty, and its heart-breaking for the children who have to somehow try to grow and live a normal life after suffering the most horrific violation of their innocence.

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SomeLikeItHoth
03/17/23 7:00:43 AM
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Patchwork is dp45?

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Collat
03/17/23 7:05:48 AM
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Dude was 77. Probably could have just pushed him down the steps or something.
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Sufferedphoneix
03/17/23 7:54:08 AM
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Hey if they are willing to pull the time then fair I guess.

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deoxxys
03/17/23 7:55:25 AM
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Jeez the old guy only went to prison for 3 years for assaulting a 6 year old, wtf kind of justice is that?

Just odd the guy killed him 40 years later? Like you are a bit late.

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Tyranthraxus
03/17/23 8:00:44 AM
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COVxy posted...
How the fuck is this 2nd degree murder? Like, dude drove to the guy's house in order to kill him.

I feel like a genuinely premeditated murder would probably use a better murder weapon than a moose antler. Situation reads more like the guy blew his temper and just grabbed whatever was on hand.

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Sufferedphoneix
03/17/23 8:04:28 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I feel like a genuinely premeditated murder would probably use a better murder weapon than a moose antler. Situation reads more like the guy blew his temper and just grabbed whatever was on hand.

Or he wanted it to be more painful. We had a inmate that had a shank made out of a deer antler. Where the fuck got a antler is beyond me

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Tyranthraxus
03/17/23 8:26:33 AM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
Or he wanted it to be more painful. We had a inmate that had a shank made out of a deer antler. Where the fuck got a antler is beyond me
The guy said it was a shovel when he turned himself in. That's how blinded by rage he was. Imagine being the police and going to this guy's house to look for a shovel only to find no shovel and a random moose antler covered in blood.

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COVxy
03/17/23 8:28:28 AM
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Nah, he had a shovel. He got to the dudes house. Grabbed a shovel from the porch. Broke in and killed the dude, but used the moose antlers as a final blow.

He grabbed the shovel before confronting the dude. The intent is all there.

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Patchwork
03/17/23 9:08:08 PM
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The 1,000 people who die per year, mostly in the midst of committing violent crime? Those killings are self-explanatory.

SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Patchwork is dp45?

No.


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Hoodroar
03/17/23 9:21:53 PM
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Looking further in, the guy who got killed tried to run for city mayor once.

Realistically if you're a registered sex offender you should probably keep a low profile. >_>

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Questionmarktarius
03/17/23 9:23:09 PM
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Canada as fuck

Minnesota
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ErenWasRight
03/17/23 9:36:57 PM
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COVxy posted...
There's no doubt, only appeal to vigilantism when it comes to sex offenders.

Oh, no, there's many, many groups of people who deserve to be vigilante'd.
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Patchwork
03/17/23 9:47:26 PM
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People who are actively committing violent crimes against other human beings and are killed in the process did, in fact, deserve it.

Theres nothing to downplay. If you try to kill the police or another person and are subsequently killed as a result of that confrontation, then it was your choices that led you there.

Not all police killings are justified, and those that arent should be prosecuted, but Im not going to pretend that someone killed while actively trying to kill the police didnt deserve it.

Aaron Swan killed a police chief, wounded another cop, and then tried to kill two Pittsburgh Detectives.

He was killed in the shootout, and he absolutely deserved it.


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COVxy
03/17/23 10:04:47 PM
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Stop trying to justify what is clearly cold blooded murder itt. I would not trust the killer in the op not to go off and murder other people he thinks deserves it.

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Patchwork
03/18/23 12:17:47 PM
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Its absolutely realistic to compartmentalize and to separate personal beliefs from professional duty. The vast majority of police, firefighters, paramedics, etc, all do it on a daily basis without issue.

I also am of the personal opinion that dealing fentanyl should carry a mandatory minimum 20 year sentence, and I work primarily narcotics and gang cases, yet Ive had countless interactions with drug dealers wherein were just two people talking after the arrest is made.

Ive literally sat with people that I chased for four blocks and had hour long conversations while we waited for charges to be finalized, transports to be lined up, etc.

Its called being professional, and its truly not that difficult.

Public servants arent going to subscribe to all of your beliefs, and they shouldnt. All that matters is that they leave personal issues at the door on the way in.

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well-excuse-me
03/18/23 12:29:27 PM
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CRON posted...
My condolences to whoever was inconvenienced with having to clean up the mess.
Just burn the house down
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eggcorn
03/18/23 7:55:12 PM
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Patchwork posted...
Sounds like a victimless crime.


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ErenWasRight
03/18/23 8:10:33 PM
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Patchwork posted...


Its absolutely realistic to compartmentalize and to separate personal beliefs from professional duty. The vast majority of police, firefighters, paramedics, etc, all do it on a daily basis without issue.

I also am of the personal opinion that dealing fentanyl should carry a mandatory minimum 20 year sentence, and I work primarily narcotics and gang cases, yet Ive had countless interactions with drug dealers wherein were just two people talking after the arrest is made.

That's funny. Because I am of the personal opinion that police should be treated as enemy combatants of a foreign nation. Since that's the way they act.

Patchwork posted...
Ive literally sat with people that I chased for four blocks and had hour long conversations while we waited for charges to be finalized, transports to be lined up, etc.

Admitting to literal unlawful detainment, kidnapping, and borderline terrorism. I have no words that won't get me on a watchlist.
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