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hockeybub89
03/20/23 11:55:51 PM
#253:


It's still one action. I have a duty to defend myself.

CyricZ posted...
How many hours a day do you spend online defending that you're not? How many Republicans do you engage on this subject?

It would probably be most of the hours online if I frequented places where people shared such opinions without being banned quickly. I got a sitewide warning on Reddit over it during my brief time on one the GameFAQs subreddits during my purg, but I have no attachment to that place, so I just blocked everyone and left.

CyricZ posted...
I'm aware. Are you making the case that you're in fact mentally incapable of disengaging on this?
I'm making the case on my view of morality and human interaction. This is a very unimportant thing that doesn't add up to anything more than that and you can't even confirm exactly how many people actually feel hurt by my actions, but "people you trust" don't want you to play a game, so that means you think it's wrong for anyone to go against your people. Would you not do anything that people you trust don't like? Did they also ask you to throw out the "Uncle Tom" jabs? The circles I run in don't give a damn who plays Hogwarts Legacy.

Why are you even in this thread if you want people to get over it already? You got baited yourself.

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hockeybub89
03/21/23 12:05:00 AM
#254:


averagejoel posted...
refusing to show the bare minimum amount of solidarity for trans people, which again, would have required zero effort and zero risk from you, and then continuously defending this decision for several weeks, is pretty significant and judgeworthy for someone who claims to be an ally to trans people!
Although Cyric tells me it's wrong to treat life like Mass Effect, I've said many times (only in response) that I already do more than zero. So why do zero effort/zero risk things matter? If it's insignificant and we are aware it's insignificant, then what is the point of caring what people do about it? It's like getting upset someone didn't say "What's up?" when they said "Hi" this morning when you both know all that would have followed is "Not much. You?"

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averagejoel
03/21/23 12:09:29 AM
#255:


hockeybub89 posted...
Although Cyric tells me it's wrong to treat life like Mass Effect, I've said many times (only in response) that I already do more than zero. So why do zero effort/zero risk things matter? Why would zero even do anything?
I have explained why, multiple times. your refusal to listen is also pretty significant and judgeworthy

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hockeybub89
03/21/23 12:10:15 AM
#256:


hockeybub89 posted...
If it's insignificant and we are aware it's insignificant, then what is the point of caring what people do about it? It's like getting upset someone didn't say "What's up?" when they said "Hi" this morning when you both know all that would have followed is "Not much. You?"


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averagejoel
03/21/23 12:11:42 AM
#257:


I have explained that as well, also multiple times.

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ellis123
03/21/23 12:12:48 AM
#258:


I guess this topic will last so long that there isn't going to be much of a need for other Hogwarts topic.

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Tmaster148
03/21/23 12:22:17 AM
#259:


The strangest thing about the hyper focus on a video game is that these people act like JK Rowling is the sole source of trans hate.

Like if she were to lose all her money, anti trans laws would still be a thing.

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Dabrikishaw15
03/21/23 12:24:27 AM
#260:


hockeybub89 posted...
Although Cyric tells me it's wrong to treat life like Mass Effect, I've said many times (only in response) that I already do more than zero. So why do zero effort/zero risk things matter? If it's insignificant and we are aware it's insignificant, then what is the point of caring what people do about it? It's like getting upset someone didn't say "What's up?" when they said "Hi" this morning when you both know all that would have followed is "Not much. You?"
This is really puzzling to hear because the only reason this argument exists is your own inability to just move on with your day and stop caring about being judged. You could have just said your piece on the game and ignored anyone saying shit about you, but here you are making a thread go to 250 posts out of a desperate need to prove something.

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averagejoel
03/21/23 12:28:43 AM
#261:


Tmaster148 posted...
The strangest thing about the hyper focus on a video game is that these people act like JK Rowling is the sole source of trans hate.
no we're not. you made that up.


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averagejoel
03/21/23 12:38:19 AM
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Dabrikishaw15 posted...
This is really puzzling to hear because the only reason this argument exists is your own inability to just move on with your day and stop caring about being judged. You could have just said your piece on the game and ignored anyone saying shit about you, but here you are making a thread go to 250 posts out of a desperate need to prove something.
not to prove anything. to adamantly insist that he's not a bad person for valuing a video game based on a book for 10-year-olds, which he even admits he does not "give a flying fuck about", more than he values his solidarity with trans people.

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gmanthebest
03/21/23 12:41:41 AM
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Gotta love these "allies" who just exist to antagonize people who bought a videogame. Maybe if they spent that time and helped us fight against actual transphobia, the world would become a better place

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remandramdoll
03/21/23 1:01:41 AM
#264:


hockeybub89 posted...
It's a fucking video game purchase. Get back to me when I'm racist, or... literally anything of significance. You're allowed to judge me when I do something bad, not make up bullshit to justify some ridiculous crusade, like our culture war conservative "friends".
If it's "just a video game" then why couldn't you go without it? Or is it "just a video game" when presented in a way that the outcome benefits you?
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Tmaster148
03/21/23 1:09:06 AM
#265:


gmanthebest posted...
Gotta love these "allies" who just exist to antagonize people who bought a videogame. Maybe if they spent that time and helped us fight against actual transphobia, the world would become a better place

You see a video game directly harms trans people where laws don't /s.

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foreverzero212
03/21/23 1:25:37 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Certainly not lol but this website is empty enough for that sort of shenanigans.

But hockeybub and Tmaster are supposed to be the same person? It's been a rough follow.

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Revelation34
03/21/23 5:38:13 AM
#267:


remandramdoll posted...

If it's "just a video game" then why couldn't you go without it? Or is it "just a video game" when presented in a way that the outcome benefits you?


It literally is just a video game. The same exact argument can be used against the people against it too.

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Muflaggin
03/21/23 5:58:31 AM
#268:


People still mad at this game lmao. Sold well, reviewed well and the usual losers still taking L's. Love to see it.
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hockeybub89
03/21/23 7:49:20 AM
#269:


averagejoel posted...
no we're not. you made that up.
Well of course not, but America is alreqdy being destroyed by anti-trans, anti-LGBTQ politicians and we're like "maybe we'll send a message if we deny one rich British transphobe a royalty check for a video game she didn't make". Will that message be received before or after everyone is fucking dead from oppressive laws?

remandramdoll posted...
If it's "just a video game" then why couldn't you go without it? Or is it "just a video game" when presented in a way that the outcome benefits you?
People from a group you support ask you to stop playing all video games, which are said to be bad, because they believe it will help do something positive. Do you do it because video games aren't important?

It is literally just a video game. If something is the least someone can do, then I say what's the fucking point of doing it? Someone always wants you to boycott something. Boycotting Twitter isn't hard. Boycotting Kanye West isn't hard. Boycotting Tom Cruise isn't hard. Boycotting Sony, Actvision, Ubisoft, Nintendo, and EA isn't hard. The stupid boycotts anti-woke wants aren't hard.

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CyricZ
03/21/23 8:03:06 AM
#271:


hockeybub89 posted...
You're allowed to judge me when I do something bad
Hey guess what. Here we are.

Did you think in such a case you'd be able to realize what you'd done, rather than have other people point it out to you?

hockeybub89 posted...
It would probably be most of the hours online if I frequented places where people shared such opinions without being banned quickly. I got a sitewide warning on Reddit over it during my brief time on one the GameFAQs subreddits during my purg, but I have no attachment to that place, so I just blocked everyone and left.
So yes. You do have an issue with letting go and not letting people get to you.

hockeybub89 posted...
This is a very unimportant thing
And yet here you are, also not able to let it go. Don't tell me it's an unimportant thing. Tell yourself and then disengage.

You want to know why I won't let this one go whenever I see these topics?

Because this is going to come up again. We'll be here again the next time a Harry Potter media comes up, and we'll start all over from the beginning. It's going to happen given the success of the game. We'll be here in the future and I don't really want to imagine how much worse Rowling will have become and I'm really hoping people won't be tying themselves further in knots to explain how "this one is okay".

Dabrikishaw15 posted...
This is really puzzling to hear because the only reason this argument exists is your own inability to just move on with your day and stop caring about being judged. You could have just said your piece on the game and ignored anyone saying shit about you, but here you are making a thread go to 250 posts out of a desperate need to prove something.
And I'm still not sure what they're trying to prove.

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CyricZ
03/21/23 8:04:14 AM
#272:


hockeybub89 posted...
It is literally just a video game.
So don't play it.

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averagejoel
03/21/23 8:09:52 AM
#273:


hockeybub89 posted...
Well of course not, but America is alreqdy being destroyed by anti-trans, anti-LGBTQ politicians and we're like "maybe we'll send a message if we deny one rich British transphobe a royalty check for a video game she didn't make". Will that message be received before or after everyone is fucking dead from oppressive laws?
that is not an accurate assessment of what is happening here and you know it, because I have already explained it to you multiple times. your refusal to listen is telling, and extremely ironic given that you've repeatedly told me not to act "like a conservative"

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remandramdoll
03/21/23 8:42:18 AM
#274:


hockeybub89 posted...
It is literally just a video game. If something is the least someone can do, then I say what's the fucking point of doing it? Someone always wants you to boycott something. Boycotting Twitter isn't hard. Boycotting Kanye West isn't hard. Boycotting Tom Cruise isn't hard. Boycotting Sony, Actvision, Ubisoft, Nintendo, and EA isn't hard. The stupid boycotts anti-woke wants aren't hard.
You are gonna win some olympic gold medals with mental gymnastics of scenarios that aren't happening.

Maybe one day you'll grow up and realize you aren't the main character and innately good and maybe you will figure out that your actions have consequences for others. Even if it doesn't hurt you, it sure as heck isn't helping the people you insist you're an ally to.
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Tmaster148
03/21/23 8:43:36 AM
#275:


remandramdoll posted...
You are gonna win some olympic gold medals with mental gymnastics of scenarios that aren't happening.

Maybe one day you'll grow up and realize you aren't the main character and innately good and maybe you will figure out that your actions have consequences for others. Even if it doesn't hurt you, it sure as heck isn't helping the people you insist you're an ally to.

Because people are certainly being directly harmed by someone buying and playing a video game.

Clearly far more important than actual laws that are being passed.

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CyricZ
03/21/23 8:51:23 AM
#276:


Tmaster148 posted...
Because people are certainly being directly harmed by someone buying and playing a video game.

Clearly far more important than actual laws that are being passed.
So is your argument "this is not harmful at all" or is it "this is harmful, but less harmful than this other more harmful thing"?

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WhisperWolf2005
03/21/23 8:55:23 AM
#277:


^I think the point is that people are just going after a video game because its the easiest route.
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CyricZ
03/21/23 8:57:59 AM
#278:


WhisperWolf2005 posted...
^I think the point is that people are just going after a video game because its the easiest route.
So it's an accusation that people shouldn't be fighting small battles because there are bigger battles to fight?

I've posted about bigger battles and people don't seem to care and let the topics die.

People here REALLY care about this battle, though.

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WhisperWolf2005
03/21/23 9:36:27 AM
#279:


Dont gauge the fight via a GameFAQs topic, were not that important.
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CyricZ
03/21/23 9:37:57 AM
#280:


WhisperWolf2005 posted...
Dont gauge the fight via a GameFAQs topic, were not that important.
Hey don't tell me that. Tell the people who can't handle being judged.

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remandramdoll
03/21/23 9:41:37 AM
#281:


CyricZ posted...
Hey don't tell me that. Tell the people who can't handle being judged.
They aren't even being judged unfairly, I don't see 480+ anti hogwarts legacy player bills being proposed so far this year.
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gmanthebest
03/21/23 10:11:29 AM
#282:


WhisperWolf2005 posted...
^I think the point is that people are just going after a video game because its the easiest route.
Exactly. Much easier to try to bully people online than use that effort to change actual laws like the rest of us do.

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CyricZ
03/21/23 10:56:45 AM
#283:


gmanthebest posted...
Exactly. Much easier to try to bully people online than use that effort to change actual laws like the rest of us do.
Who am I bullying?

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gmanthebest
03/21/23 10:59:17 AM
#284:


CyricZ posted...
Who am I bullying?
Never said you were. I'm just saying that the majority of people against buying a game are just bullying instead of being productive. If you think that means you, that's on you.

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Revelation34
03/21/23 11:38:52 AM
#285:


CyricZ posted...

Hey guess what. Here we are.

Did you think in such a case you'd be able to realize what you'd done, rather than have other people point it out to you?



He bought a video game. That is literally what this entire argument is about

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hockeybub89
03/21/23 2:57:09 PM
#286:


remandramdoll posted...
You are gonna win some olympic gold medals with mental gymnastics of scenarios that aren't happening.

Maybe one day you'll grow up and realize you aren't the main character and innately good and maybe you will figure out that your actions have consequences for others. Even if it doesn't hurt you, it sure as heck isn't helping the people you insist you're an ally to.
Scenarios that aren't happening? I'm just saying that boycotting unnecessary things when asked isn't hard. All the people and companies I mentioned hurt people and/or fund those who hurt people. What makes Hogwarts Legacy inherently worse, and why does a boycott matter when we are in an active genocide. How does not buying a video game stop Ron Desantis or the entire GOP soon?

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MedeaLysistrata
03/21/23 3:00:19 PM
#287:


hockeybub89 posted...
How does not buying a video game stop Ron Desantis or the entire GOP soon?
Concealing your game?

It doesn't, but anyone who bought that game isn't gonna do shit going forward

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Tmaster148
03/21/23 3:01:07 PM
#288:


MedeaLysistrata posted...
It doesn't, but anyone who bought that game isn't gonna do shit going forward

And anyone attacking people over a video isn't going to do shit either.

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hockeybub89
03/21/23 8:54:53 PM
#289:


MedeaLysistrata posted...
Concealing your game?

It doesn't, but anyone who bought that game isn't gonna do shit going forward
Are you fucking kidding me? Good to know Donald Trump's presidency and COVID have made everyone lose their minds. Foolish me thought most of us were better than the deplorables.

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averagejoel
03/21/23 9:05:22 PM
#290:


hockeybub89 posted...
Scenarios that aren't happening? I'm just saying that boycotting unnecessary things when asked isn't hard. All the people and companies I mentioned hurt people and/or fund those who hurt people. What makes Hogwarts Legacy inherently worse, and why does a boycott matter when we are in an active genocide. How does not buying a video game stop Ron Desantis or the entire GOP soon?
stop moving goalposts man. this is really pathetic

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hockeybub89
03/21/23 11:21:35 PM
#291:


CyricZ posted...
Hey guess what. Here we are.

Did you think in such a case you'd be able to realize what you'd done, rather than have other people point it out to you?

So yes. You do have an issue with letting go and not letting people get to you.

And yet here you are, also not able to let it go. Don't tell me it's an unimportant thing. Tell yourself and then disengage.

You want to know why I won't let this one go whenever I see these topics?

Because this is going to come up again. We'll be here again the next time a Harry Potter media comes up, and we'll start all over from the beginning. It's going to happen given the success of the game. We'll be here in the future and I don't really want to imagine how much worse Rowling will have become and I'm really hoping people won't be tying themselves further in knots to explain how "this one is okay".

And I'm still not sure what they're trying to prove.
I do believe I would realize. I get really upset with myself when I do anything remotely wrong. I am brutal on myself mentally.

But also there is no reason I should allow people to talk shit to me, even if it's nowhere near as bad as those that accuse me of serious crimes. Why the hell would I allow those anti-LGBTQ bigots to call me names? They learned that sentiment from powerful people who are on the cusp of permanently destroying the world with such rhetoric. We clearly let too much go.

And who knows if there will even be a future for us to have another argument over regular people buying video games if Republicans ever win another election. You literally cannot spend money in our current society without furthering the agenda of evil people.

CyricZ posted...
So don't play it.
But if it's insignificant, then having any serious moral opinions on it at all is silly. It doesn't even move the needle.

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WhisperWolf2005
03/21/23 11:25:02 PM
#292:


Honesty its too late to boycott anything Harry Potter. Those characters and stories are already globally known and will outlast us all just like the Bible or Bugs Bunny.

I would vastly prefer doing some community services and charities for good causes.
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hockeybub89
03/21/23 11:31:24 PM
#294:


averagejoel posted...
stop moving goalposts man. this is really pathetic
I'm not moving the goalposts. My argument from the very beginning was always "the entire world is collapsing, every fiber of my being, of every queer person's being is being attacked, and somehow we care about video games and some dumb bitch getting royalties?" The world is entirely hopeless without some significant and swift change, and that terrifies me. But let's still think boycotts will do something. Clearly less successful wizard games will end the tyranny of the GOP and save trans people. Their laws are clearly motivated by video game sales.

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Tmaster148
03/21/23 11:35:17 PM
#295:


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You are free to hide the topic

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Tmaster148
03/22/23 12:02:17 AM
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You can keep bumping the topic for free I guess

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averagejoel
03/22/23 12:54:58 AM
#298:


hockeybub89 posted...
I'm not moving the goalposts. My argument from the very beginning was always "the entire world is collapsing, every fiber of my being, of every queer person's being is being attacked, and somehow we care about video games and some dumb bitch getting royalties?" The world is entirely hopeless without some significant and swift change, and that terrifies me. But let's still think boycotts will do something. Clearly less successful wizard games will end the tyranny of the GOP and save trans people. Their laws are clearly motivated by video game sales.
you haven't listened to a single word I've said

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Revelation34
03/22/23 2:19:47 AM
#299:


The only people in the wrong for buying this particular video game were the ones who did so because they wanted to spite trans people.

That was a very small minority of people though.

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hockeybub89
03/22/23 8:06:40 AM
#300:


averagejoel posted...
you haven't listened to a single word I've said
Why the hell would I do that when you people refuse to address this and have for months0? Like show me the roadmap how JK Rowling losing out on video game royalties will end this genocide, how it will cause <redacted> in America

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MedeaLysistrata
03/22/23 8:10:31 AM
#301:


hockeybub89 posted...
Are you fucking kidding me? Good to know Donald Trump's presidency and COVID have made everyone lose their minds. Foolish me thought most of us were better than the deplorables.
Yeah that was just me getting twisted

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averagejoel
03/22/23 8:15:49 AM
#302:


hockeybub89 posted...
Why the hell would I do that when you people refuse to address this and have for months0? Like show me the roadmap how JK Rowling losing out on video game royalties will end this genocide, how it will cause <redacted> in America
that's an entirely different conversation. you would know that if you had been listening

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Revelation34
03/22/23 9:28:43 AM
#303:


averagejoel posted...

that's an entirely different conversation. you would know that if you had been listening


Sounds like it's the same one to me.

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