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Tenlaar
04/20/23 8:49:02 AM
#103:


Dismissing contrary beliefs by calling them a gimmick or lying about the person expressing them must make things much easier in life for you all. Not better, obviously, but easier for sure.
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Mistere_Man
04/20/23 8:52:34 AM
#105:


Red alert 2 Looks like an interesting game btw.

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EndOfDiscOne
04/20/23 8:52:40 AM
#106:


Was he supposed to push her first? She weighs more than him and that gives her the justification in her mind to fight back. Seems like he handled this as efficiently as possible without going too far.

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Kloe_Rinz
04/20/23 8:56:33 AM
#107:


Tenlaar posted...
Dismissing contrary beliefs by calling them a gimmick or lying about the person expressing them must make things much easier in life for you all. Not better, obviously, but easier for sure.
youve never and will never post a justifiable response for why people aren't allowed to defend themselves when cornered with nowhere to escape. your dancing around this fact is your gimmick whether you like it or not
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Tenlaar
04/20/23 8:59:54 AM
#108:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
youve never and will never post a justifiable response for why people aren't allowed to defend themselves when cornered with nowhere to escape. your dancing around this fact is your gimmick whether you like it or not
I already have, in that I dont believe that the man was actually cornered with nowhere to escape. Like Ive said, the woman had followed him all through the store at that point without physically attacking him and I dont see anything to indicate that this was the point where she was drawing a line and would have physically attacked him rather than just continuing to follow if he had walked by her again.
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DipDipDiver
04/20/23 9:05:12 AM
#109:


Meh, the punch seemed entirely unnecessary to me, she did not appear to be a physical threat to him at all just invasive and annoying
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Kloe_Rinz
04/20/23 9:09:11 AM
#110:


Tenlaar posted...
in that I dont believe that the man was actually cornered with nowhere to escape.
only because you didnt watch the video
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/20/23 9:13:50 AM
#111:


This is gonna be a fair, next for me. She literally followed him into the back office while getting all up in his face.

I think the punch was probably a bit much, but the lady was way out of line

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gatorsPENSbucs
04/20/23 9:23:15 AM
#112:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
only because you didnt watch the video
Standing in the middle of a room doesnt really seem cornered.

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AgentCoulson
04/20/23 9:27:39 AM
#113:


Get fucked, lady.

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dave_is_slick
04/20/23 9:40:02 AM
#114:


Tenlaar posted...
She had followed him all through the store already, what leads you to believe that she was ready to attack him and this was the point where she would have physically stopped him from walking away again?
So you read all that and don't see how following someone is a threat in itself.

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Tenlaar
04/20/23 9:46:52 AM
#115:


dave_is_slick posted...
So you read all that and don't see how following someone is a threat in itself.
No, its not.
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DipDipDiver
04/20/23 9:48:17 AM
#116:


Obviously if he hadn't punched her then she would have kept slowly lumbering after him, so as you can see he had no choice
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ScazarMeltex
04/20/23 9:50:20 AM
#117:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
This is gonna be a fair, next for me. She literally followed him into the back office while getting all up in his face.

I think the punch was probably a bit much, but the lady was way out of line
She behaved that way for the same reason so many do. They don't expect consequences because they've never had them. She'll know better next time. If you agress someone like that you should expect that they'll break your jaw.

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Thompson
04/20/23 9:52:40 AM
#118:


He retreats all the way into an office she has no business being in and has him almost backed up to a wall. At that point, she might've become truly violent and started wailing on him. She could've had a concealed knife for all he knows. He justifiably acted in self-defense, and I feel no sympathy for her.
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dave_is_slick
04/20/23 10:02:01 AM
#119:


Tenlaar posted...
No, its not.
You're funny.

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RuneterranSnap
04/20/23 10:03:39 AM
#120:


Following someone who tells you to stop after acting sketchy absolutely justifies a punch. He felt threatened and ended it in the least violent and harmful way possible. Anyone questioning that is trolling.
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StormSignal
04/20/23 10:06:40 AM
#121:


good for him

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
04/20/23 10:07:03 AM
#122:


He should have stayed in an open area and called the police, do not go somewhere you are cornered or boxed in, as a security guard he should know better.

The situation he was in is what police call is for, do not put hands on someone when you can keep them from forcing that response.

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RuneterranSnap
04/20/23 10:10:51 AM
#123:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
He should have stayed in an open area and called the police, do not go somewhere you are cornered or boxed in, as a security guard he should know better.

The situation he was in is what police call is for, do not put hands on someone when you can keep them from forcing that response.
It's not his responsibility to mitigate her behavior.
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Kloe_Rinz
04/20/23 10:12:42 AM
#124:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Standing in the middle of a room
directly blocking the only exit from the room and aggressively approaching him

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
do not put hands on someone when you can keep them from forcing that response.
what is he, a fucking mind reader? the trashy woman forced him to defend himself. she didn't give him any other options. thats her fault and nobody elses
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Evillink2000
04/20/23 10:16:40 AM
#125:


These people that seem to think he should've let her literally back him into the wall(in an office she had no right to be in in the first place) when he has ZERO idea what she might have are delusional at best. I suppose you'll just hope someone doesn't have something on them if you find yourself in such a situation?

No, you wouldn't. So kindly end that bullshit.
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/20/23 10:32:37 AM
#126:


Evillink2000 posted...
I suppose you'll just hope someone doesn't have something on them if you find yourself in such a situation?

No, you wouldn't. So kindly end that bullshit.
If an older lady is slowly walking towards me Im gonna ask her whats going on. If she continues to follow me Id get authority involved.

Please dont include everyone in your nonsense. And nobody was backed up into a wall.

Kloe_Rinz posted...
and aggressively approaching him

Lol, come on you dont really believe that do you.


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DUKLegend
04/20/23 10:33:38 AM
#127:


Lady was all like "You know who I am?"

Um... no? Are you famous? WTF
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bluezero
04/20/23 10:35:38 AM
#128:


She has mental issues, I guarantee it. That said, she deserved it.

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Evillink2000
04/20/23 10:35:49 AM
#129:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
If an older lady is slowly walking towards me Im gonna ask her whats going on. If she continues to follow me Id get authority involved.

Please dont include everyone in your nonsense. And nobody was backed up into a wall.
Perhaps you should try reading my post again. I said "These people seem to think he should've let her back him into the wall". As in I know he wasn't quite there yet, but this nutjob wouldn't stop pursuing, and had shown previous intent to walk into others. And it's beyond unreasonable to ask him to assume she wouldn't take it further.

Again, stop with the obvious bullshit.
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A_Good_Boy
04/20/23 10:39:18 AM
#130:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
If an older lady is slowly walking towards me Im gonna ask her whats going on. If she continues to follow me Id get authority involved.
The person in question already knows enough, the lady was being dangerous and belligerent to other employees out on the sales floor and when he stepped in to intervene she started acting the same way towards him too.

Its kinda wild the best defense that anyone can come up for this lady and why she shouldn't have been punched relies heavily on acting as obtuse as possible.

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Kloe_Rinz
04/20/23 11:16:03 AM
#131:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Lol, come on you dont really believe that do you.
justify why she chased him all the way into the back office, cornered him and blocked the only exit if she wasn't aggressive
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KTG2
04/20/23 11:22:02 AM
#132:


catfan2008 posted...
he jumped into a boxing stance the moment she fell down ready to beat her up if she wasn't hurt enough
he was intent to hurt her

nothing wrong with barnishing her from the store but there is zero reason for rocky wannabe to punch a woman just because he decided to keep escalating the situation isntead of containing it

whose shitposting alt is this

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Sheiky-Baby
04/20/23 12:00:34 PM
#133:


I don't think she deserved to be punched tbh. I'd just let her assault me, and get paid by the company, staying at home.

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Kloe_Rinz
04/20/23 12:02:09 PM
#134:


Sheiky-Baby posted...
I don't think she deserved to be punched tbh. I'd just let her assault me, and get paid by the company, staying at home.
What about people who dont want to risk permanent injury or death?
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Sheiky-Baby
04/20/23 12:04:45 PM
#135:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
What about people who dont want to risk permanent injury or death?
Over exaggerating

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Kloe_Rinz
04/20/23 12:05:01 PM
#136:


Sheiky-Baby posted...
Over exaggerating
Wrong
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SHRlKE
04/20/23 12:11:30 PM
#137:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
He should have stayed in an open area and called the police, do not go somewhere you are cornered or boxed in, as a security guard he should know better.

The situation he was in is what police call is for, do not put hands on someone when you can keep them from forcing that response.

I don't necessarily blame the guy for what he did when put in that situation but it could have been handled differently with a much better outcome.

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VampireCoyote
04/20/23 12:13:38 PM
#138:


RuneterranSnap posted...
Following someone who tells you to stop after acting sketchy absolutely justifies a punch. He felt threatened and ended it in the least violent and harmful way possible. Anyone questioning that is trolling.


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SHRlKE
04/20/23 12:15:44 PM
#139:


RuneterranSnap posted...
It's not his responsibility to mitigate her behavior.

It's not - you are right. But he still has a choice to make in terms of trying to avoid escalating the issue as much as possible or not. As I said in my previous post, I don't think he did anything wrong, but I also think there could have been an outcome that didn't involve him having to physically hit her had he handled it differently.

There are many situations where you do need to physically defend yourself but I don't feel like this is one of them and I don't feel like all the other options were exhausted before resorting to that.

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gatorsPENSbucs
04/20/23 12:55:40 PM
#140:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
justify why she chased him all the way into the back office, cornered him and blocked the only exit if she wasn't aggressive
You said she aggressively approached him, which she absolutely did not.

You and others are entitled to your opinions, Im not trying to argue or fight, I just find it funny how peoples opinions on the very same situation can change so much.

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Drrobotniks
04/20/23 12:58:49 PM
#141:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
You and others are entitled to your opinions,
It's not an opinion, we're just right
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VampireCoyote
04/20/23 1:00:36 PM
#142:


If someone continues to back away from you and you continue to go towards them for that long of a period of time, that is an act of aggression

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PesticideDream
04/20/23 1:06:51 PM
#143:


Arguing about this sort of thing online is always so dumb. Yeah, it's easy to analyze the situation and formulate what the perfect solutions would have been when you're sitting at home safely on your computer reviewing every angle of a video and not actually in an intense, instantaneous fight or flight situation.
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mybbqrules
04/20/23 1:16:02 PM
#144:


St0rmFury posted...
Tenlaar once again demonstrating why he shouldn't be taken seriously.
Lmao, right?

Tenlaar when an unarmed black man is killed by police: *enthusiastic boot leather maintenance*

Tenlaar when a retail worker defends themselves: *finger wags and "tsk tsk tsk"*

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ChocoboMogALT
04/20/23 1:35:19 PM
#145:


He didn't just go into the office for no reason. He walked into the office and tried to lock her out to get away from her, but she lushed passed the door before he could close it.

No one reasonable follows an employee 50 feet into an employee's only area.

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ZannoL
04/20/23 1:41:59 PM
#146:


ChocoboMogALT posted...
He didn't just go into the office for no reason. He walked into the office and tried to lock her out to get away from her, but she lushed passed the door before he could close it.

No one reasonable follows an employee 50 feet into an employee's only area.

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Sheiky-Baby
04/20/23 1:51:21 PM
#147:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Wrong
Tell you what, you go ahead and be punchy in this fantasy scenario, and I'll just leave.

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Kloe_Rinz
04/20/23 1:53:10 PM
#148:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
You said she aggressively approached him, which she absolutely did not.
Yes she did. Watch the video

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Im not trying to argue or fight,
Yes you are. You are trying to copy URs contrarian gimmick
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Kloe_Rinz
04/20/23 1:55:04 PM
#149:


Sheiky-Baby posted...
Tell you what, you go ahead and be punchy in this fantasy scenario, and I'll just leave.
it's not a fantasy scenario when its caught on camera. you just refuse to watch the video, or are trolling. or both
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hyperskate65
04/20/23 1:57:44 PM
#150:


Sheiky-Baby posted...
Tell you what, you go ahead and be punchy in this fantasy scenario, and I'll just leave.

thank god

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greenjeans
04/20/23 2:09:43 PM
#151:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
You said she aggressively approached him, which she absolutely did not.
lol just admit you didn't watch the video

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A_Good_Boy
04/20/23 2:12:14 PM
#152:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
it's not a fantasy scenario when its caught on camera. you just refuse to watch the video, or are trolling. or both
He was literally posting about a made up fantasy and you were engaging him in it.

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