Poll of the Day > This year Texas has passed more anti-trans bills than all their other bills comb

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At 492 anti-trans bills so far

oof

We are the worst :)

About what I expect from a conservative legislature, no actual governing just culture war bigotry.

Keeping up with the DeSantises

lulz, Florida GOP congressman just said trans people are like mutants from another planet

:V

All hail the party of regression. Not conserving what is present and good, not respecting anything who isn't them, not refraining from projection, hypocrisy, obstruction, and other semblances of vitriol, but pulling the rest of the country back to ye olde oonga boonga days when man carry stick man decide all things.

this isn't even regression, this is an active attack... they're more hostile NOW than they were 100 years ago

Lokarin posted...

this isn't even regression, this is an active attack... they're more hostile NOW than they were 100 years ago

Well no, this is about as hostile as they were in the 1930s when they were either in Germany doing the book burnings, etc., or were here in the US taking part in Nazi Youth meetings or adopting blue-for-boys-pink-for-girls to avoid having pink-wearing men seem feminine or gay (gods forbid). And before that there was the Klan in their violent glory. So no, it's a step in regression, albeit a very active and dangerous step that some among them will be too keen to deny despite the evidence to their wrongdoings.

I bet like 75% of Texas politicians are chasers

Trans is a prefix; by itself it means nothing.

Did texas pass laws against transceivers? Transporters? Transponders? How about transcontinental railroads? Doubt it.

So no, they didnt pass anything "anti-trans" as you ignorantly assert.

Zareth posted...

I bet like 75% of Texas politicians are chasers

Holy projection batman!

Zareth posted...

I bet like 75% of Texas politicians are chasers

Yes. It's why they insist that transitioning is "sexualizing." Because they fetishize trans people and then project their fetishization onto trans people so that they can blame them for their own perversity.

nice sources every1 keep it up

FatalAccident posted...

nice sources every1 keep it up

are you like doubting this? because its not even just texas. things are really bad right now. have you heard about the trans state rep in montana who hasnt been allowed to speak for days now? thats just the most recent thing

Florida is passing a bill to allow the state to remove trans kids from their families.

papercup posted...

Florida is passing a bill to allow the state to remove trans kids from their families.

Including from out of state, which is not only beyond their jurisdiction but also a federal matter at that point.

yup, Texas sucks

GOP out of nowhere:

Holy shit trans people exist

Well its the south, what do you expect? They like pretending that civil rights hasn't moved forward since the turn of the century.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

Well its the south, what do you expect? They like pretending that civil rights hasn't moved forward since the turn of the century.

They're actively trying to eliminate civil rights, because it disturbs them that there are people that aren't evangelical, straight, white and male.

Kanatteru posted...

are you like doubting this? because its not even just texas. things are really bad right now. have you heard about the trans state rep in montana who hasnt been allowed to speak for days now? thats just the most recent thing

Tbh I dont doubt that thats the case, but thats not really the point. Its a real slippery slope to make claims like that and nobody asks for verification just because it sounds about right. This is how people find themselves in echo chambers and misinformation spreads because things like this sound plausible enough.

So yeah I would love to see a source actually

FatalAccident posted...

So yeah I would love to see a source actually

as far as i know none of the anti-trans bills in texas this year have passed both houses.

https://legiscan.com/gaits/search?state=TX&keyword=%22biological+sex%22
(i used a full-text search for "biological sex" bc in my experience tracking this stuff that phrase tends to always be included in the bill text whereas words like 'transgender' etc typically arent)

about 188 bills have been sent to the governor this year (annoyingly, legiscan has full-text search but not status search, and the texas capitol search application (as far as i can figure it out) has status search but not full-text search)

all bills sent to governer: https://tinyurl.com/5fa3u3z8

the claim in the OP could be interpreted more literally as "passed either house", but I doubt the statement is literally true in that case either.

I suspect the "492" number is a slightly out-of-date count of all anti-trans bills introduced in US legislative bodies this year, given that its similar to the number on this site of 528: https://translegislation.com/

I'm a Texas resident and agree with many of these bills. For example, housing prison inmates according to their biological sex. Putting inmates together who have different sex organs will, of course, result in pregnancy. These are things that should just be common sense, but unfortunately there's little of that going around these days.

redline65 posted...

I'm a Texas resident and agree with many of these bills. For example, housing prison inmates according to their biological sex. Putting inmates together who have different sex organs will, of course, result in pregnancy. These are things that should just be common sense, but unfortunately there's little of that going around these days.

on that note a man who trained to be the best at a sport or event for most their lives who then decides they are a woman should not be allowed to compete against natural born women that trained in the same sport or event since its unfair

I'm just wondering how much plastic is in the food and water.

The public sphere has exploded with transgender obsession and no one is asking why or thinks it's odd?

NeoSioType posted...

I'm just wondering how much plastic is in the food and water.

The public sphere has exploded with transgender obsession and no one is asking why or thinks it's odd?

ya, even the right-wing hardliners are like "this has nothing to do with getting me tax breaks... so I'm not funding you any more"

I can't remember who it was, but it was one of the big superpac financiers... it was in a Vaush video, but I just can't remember.

NeoSioType posted...

I'm just wondering how much plastic is in the food and water.

The public sphere has exploded with transgender obsession and no one is asking why or thinks it's odd?

Ingesting plastic definitely means people become obsessed with transgender individuals.

Revelation34 posted...

Ingesting plastic definitely means people become obsessed with transgender individuals.

Also it's important to note that microplastics have been in the environment and in our food and water for over a century at this point, it's just that we're just now beginning to learn how pervasive the problem is.

NeoSioType posted...

I'm just wondering how much plastic is in the food and water.

The public sphere has exploded with transgender obsession and no one is asking why or thinks it's odd?

Serious answer, it's because of the rapidly growing acceptance of them. There are people who still consider them mutilated freaks, who just up out of nowhere adopted the transgender "culture", and the idea of them convincing their children to do the same is a great way to fearmonger. None of that is based in reality, but that's what happens when you cling to an unchanging fundamental view of the world. Just a couple years ago we were pretending that being gay was a choice.

Basically it's just them digging a deeper whole, since we're all still pissed about the way they treated the gays. One day they'll pretend they were cool with transgender people all along. And they love speaking out of both sides of their mouths, on one side calling them child grooming pedophiles, and out the other saying they just want reasonable limits so that people don't rush into it and make a mistake.

Yellow posted...

Serious answer, it's because of the rapidly growing acceptance of them. There are people who still consider them mutilated freaks, who just up out of nowhere adopted the transgender "culture", and the idea of them convincing their children to do the same is a great way to fearmonger. None of that is based in reality, but that's what happens when you cling to an unchanging fundamental view of the world. Just a couple years ago we were pretending that being gay was a choice.

Basically it's just them digging a deeper whole, since we're all still pissed about the way they treated the gays. One day they'll pretend they were cool with transgender people all along. And they love speaking out of both sides of their mouths, on one side calling them child grooming pedophiles, and out the other saying they just want reasonable limits so that people don't rush into it and make a mistake.

I have not seen one anti gay person of note suddenly pretend to be cool with gay people, they still spew just as much vile hatred for both, just look at Supreme Justice Clarence Thomas.

Non trans gay rights are very much still under threat and only a straight person won't realize that.

Cruddy_horse posted...

I have not seen one anti gay person of note suddenly pretend to be cool with gay people, they still spew just as much vile hatred for both, just look at Supreme Justice Clarence Thomas.

Overt homophobia seemed to be on the decline for a little bit but then the Supreme Court went "actually, maybe minorities don't deserve rights" and now everything is falling back into place.

Cruddy_horse posted...

I have not seen one anti gay person of note suddenly pretend to be cool with gay people, they still spew just as much vile hatred for both, just look at Supreme Justice Clarence Thomas.

Non trans gay rights are very much still under threat and only a straight person won't realize that.

Yeah I know.

But believe it or not, there are absolutely some Reps who claim they are not the anti-gay party. See Milo, Blaire White, on some that are actually lgbt themselves.

redline65 posted...

I'm a Texas resident and agree with many of these bills. For example, housing prison inmates according to their biological sex. Putting inmates together who have different sex organs will, of course, result in pregnancy.

Meanwhile, putting trans women in men's prisons puts them at an extremely high risk of being assaulted, raped, and/or killed. Personally, I see that as being a worse outcome than possibly having two consenting adults make a baby together because apparently it's 1784 and the mere existence of an unsupervised penis and vagina in the same room will inevitably lead to pregnancy and scandal. Even more so where that risk can be pretty much entirely eliminated by offering an IUD to the uterus-haver, mitigated even further by ensuring ready access to abortions, and it's likely low in the first place because hormone therapy tends to have pretty adverse effects on fertility. And if the uterus-haver wants to get pregnant in jail, conjugal visits are already a thing without having to bring trans people into the equation, so acting like it's only a problem when trans people are involved means you're either disingenuously hiding behind a flimsy excuse and hoping nobody will notice, or you genuinely didn't think the issue through at all. Neither possibility reflects particularly well on you, so maybe consider a different opinion.

potdnewb posted...

on that note a man who trained to be the best at a sport or event for most their lives who then decides they are a woman should not be allowed to compete against natural born women that trained in the same sport or event since its unfair

Which is why regulations around trans athletes have certain requirements that must be met, including testing hormone levels. Trans athletes have been permitted in the Olympics since 2004. Since then, I believe there have been like three that even qualified to attend and only one that earned a medal (and that was as part of a team, and I don't believe they were considered the MVP). It's not a matter of "a man decides to be a woman and then wins women's sports" for pretty much any meaningful sports organization, and even at other levels pretty much the only time that ever happens is when some alt-right troll decides he wants to make a point (in which case they comprise the full extent of the problem). For those that are actually transitioning, hormone therapy tends to have enough adverse health effects that excelling at sports is a challenge.

The sports issue is one that, hypothetically considering it at face value, seems like it's going to be a real problem, but the fact of the matter is that there's a ton of precedent available to examine, and the supposed domination of trans women in women's sports simply hasn't happened. It still warrants scrutiny to make sure the regulations employed are doing their job properly, and I'm sure further adjustments will be needed moving forward, but the fact of the matter is that categorically banning trans girls and women from girls' and women's sports isn't actually necessary to maintain a level playing field (not that the playing field is ever truly level, because genetic advantages that aren't sex-based get a free pass more often than not).

Revelation34 posted...

The public sphere has exploded with transgender obsession and no one is asking why or thinks it's odd?

if i had come out in the 1990s/early 2000s my older brother probably would have tried to kill me.

Zareth posted...

Overt homophobia seemed to be on the decline for a little bit but then the Supreme Court went "actually, maybe minorities don't deserve rights" and now everything is falling back into place.

Again, absolute horseshit, it never went away or "was on the decline" it's just largely invisible to non queer people. There's an author of a queer book I follow and after they released their book they pointed out and showed several videos they were sent of people burning their book in hate. It wasn't that long ago Trump was in office and enforcing anti-gay policies despite saying he wouldn't. Gay marriage has only been legal across the States since 2015, less than a decade ago. Trying to tell me "it's not that bad" or some shit like that only leads me to think you're straight and in that case, you're only proving my point that you think it's better for us than it is. Yeah it's true it's easier for non-trans qeer people to exist, sure but that doesn't mean we don't still face hatred.

Yellow posted...

Yeah I know.

But believe it or not, there are absolutely some Reps who claim they are not the anti-gay party. See Milo, Blaire White, on some that are actually lgbt themselves.

There's always those kind of "Race traitor" people who happily sell out their own people for money, safety or fame.

I said it "seemed" to be on the decline, as in the media wasn't reporting on it as much.

chelsea___wtf posted...

if i had come out in the 1990s/early 2000s my older brother probably would have tried to kill me.

I wasn't the one who said that.

Revelation34 posted...

I wasn't the one who said that.

oh i just quoted the quote in your post without thinking, i didnt mean to attribute it to you, sorry