Board 8 > Do you believe that Pete Rose should be inducted into the baseball hall of fame?

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GranTurismo
04/22/23 5:37:14 PM
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Do you believe he should be?





do you
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azuarc
04/23/23 1:36:41 AM
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He's the MLB all-time leader in hits, and his transgressions (betting in favor of his own team) are far less scandalous than anything that directly taints the sport with doping or sign-stealing or use of sticky substances to get an edge. As a player, he was known as Charlie Hustle because he embodied everything about succeeding via effort. He wasn't necessarily the greatest athlete, but he succeeded because he had heart...it's just that he's not the sort of Disney-esque feel-good personality that you normally associate with that trope, and for that, it's hard to feel bad for him.

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ChaosTonyV4
04/23/23 2:18:01 AM
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100%, you basically cant watch any sports without seeing ads for betting now, its fucking insane hes still on the outs.

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MZero
04/23/23 4:22:56 AM
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Yes

If he had bet against his team and threw games, I would say no. But betting on your own team isn't that bad

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Crescent-Moon
04/23/23 8:57:21 AM
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A very long time ago.

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Leonhart4
04/23/23 9:02:58 AM
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Yes, but they won't induct him until after he's dead.

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neonreaper
04/23/23 9:44:08 AM
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absolutely not


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redrocket
04/23/23 10:14:51 AM
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MZero posted...
Yes

If he had bet against his team and threw games, I would say no. But betting on your own team isn't that bad


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Ashethan
04/23/23 10:49:27 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Yes, but they won't induct him until after he's dead.

I don't think they'll do it even then. It's not about Rose anymore. It's about him being used as an example to everyone else.

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changmas
04/23/23 10:49:44 AM
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No, he's a rapist and baseball is better without him.

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neonreaper
04/23/23 11:06:51 AM
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If you bet on some games but not others , and you have to manage resources in order to win games, its clear that games will have their outcomes impacted by gambling. If he bet the same amount on the Reds every game to win, and that was the extent of his gambling, Id say they should let him in after he dies. But thats not true and not the worst of his gambling issues with MLB.

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Maniac64
04/23/23 1:32:12 PM
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MZero posted...
If he had bet against his team and threw games, I would say no. But betting on your own team isn't that bad
And yet an NFL player just got a 6 game suspension for betting on a different sport.

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Leafeon13N
04/23/23 1:42:06 PM
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neonreaper posted...
If you bet on some games but not others , and you have to manage resources in order to win games, its clear that games will have their outcomes impacted by gambling. If he bet the same amount on the Reds every game to win, and that was the extent of his gambling, Id say they should let him in after he dies. But thats not true and not the worst of his gambling issues with MLB.

This .

Also hes an asshole and as much as hes publicly whined about reinstatement whenever MLB has given him an opportunity to come forward and work towards reinstatement hes turned it down.

If we are going to keep the steroid users that saved baseball out it is easy to justify keeping Pete Rose out.
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Forceful_Dragon
04/23/23 1:45:46 PM
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Let Bonds in

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Leonhart4
04/23/23 2:13:48 PM
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I also think the steroids guys should be in

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Leafeon13N
04/23/23 2:48:33 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
I also think the steroids guys should be in
I think they should get in before Pete Rose does. At least those from early on in the steroid era. Anyone handed down a suspension after that is a forever no.
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Pokewars
04/23/23 4:48:00 PM
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He should have the induction ceremony and then Kane comes out and tombstones him, for old times' sake.

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Ngamer
04/23/23 11:59:55 PM
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When he got caught he said "What, I never gambled!"

That was a lie. So he explained "Okay I placed some bets, but never on baseball!"

That was a lie. He was forced to admit "Alright so I bet on baseball, but only on other teams."

That was a lie. He changed his story to "Fine, I bet on my own team. But only to win, because I'm just THAT much of an amazing competitor!"

And you believe him?


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Uglyface2
04/24/23 12:10:48 AM
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Is THAT what happened? I'm not familiar with Pete's accomplishments, and I'd only heard the vague explanation that he'd gambled on baseball for keeping him out of the HOF.
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Leonhart4
04/24/23 6:31:27 AM
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Pokewars posted...
He should have the induction ceremony and then Kane comes out and tombstones him, for old times' sake.

That's Mayor Kane to you

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neonreaper
04/24/23 8:59:05 AM
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Uglyface2 posted...
Is THAT what happened? I'm not familiar with Pete's accomplishments, and I'd only heard the vague explanation that he'd gambled on baseball for keeping him out of the HOF.

And remember, he agreed to the settlement that included being on the ineligible list. Things would have been much worse for him if he hadn't.

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Uglyface2
04/24/23 5:36:55 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
That's Mayor Kane to you

I think Mayor Kane only chokeslams people through tables.
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Ngamer
04/25/23 9:44:17 AM
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Uglyface2 posted...
Is THAT what happened? I'm not familiar with Pete's accomplishments, and I'd only heard the vague explanation that he'd gambled on baseball for keeping him out of the HOF.
Like everything with Pete, it gets worse the more you look into it.


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