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Doe
04/27/23 11:49:19 PM
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at least the Disney stuff. there is no substance to any of these stories. Minimal characterization and you already know what's gonna happen because the 1 dimensionally evil villain needs to get epic'd on by someone using the force. bonus if they use the force to block a cave in or explosion, which happens in obi wan and mandalorian and maybe more.

I just don't get the hype

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Doom_Art
04/27/23 11:49:58 PM
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we were curious

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MICHALECOLE
04/27/23 11:52:03 PM
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Doe posted...
I just don't get the hype
well, you see, people have different opinions than you do, so something that you may like another person may not like, and something somebody else likes you may not like.
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goatthief
04/27/23 11:53:31 PM
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Okay so it's really a mixed bag with the Disney stuff.

The Good
Mando
Rogue One
Andor

The Bad
The Sequels
Boba Fett
Obi Wan

The ugly
Solo

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BuckVanHammer
04/27/23 11:54:58 PM
#5:


goatthief posted...
Okay so it's really a mixed bag with the Disney stuff.

The Good
Mando
Rogue One
Andor

The Bad
The Sequels
Boba Fett
Obi Wan

The ugly
Solo
I kinda liked solo and went in with 0 expectations...

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Doe
04/27/23 11:57:00 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
well, you see, people have different opinions than you do, so something that you may like another person may not like, and something somebody else likes you may not like.
Apparently I touched a nerve lol

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MICHALECOLE
04/27/23 11:59:45 PM
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Doe posted...
Apparently I touched a nerve lol
Did you read that and think lmao that guy is so mad
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Imit8m3
04/28/23 12:00:23 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/8/AAZgIXAAEbIS.jpg

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sabin017
04/28/23 12:00:42 AM
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IDK how people think TFA is bad. It was clearly better than the prequels when it released, now it's somehow anchored to the other movies for some reason.

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Punished_Blinx
04/28/23 12:02:03 AM
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sabin017 posted...
IDK how people think TFA is bad. It was clearly better than the prequels when it released, now it's somehow anchored to the other movies for some reason.

It's pretty funny how people just forgot how much that overall liked when it was released.

Yeah it was super safe but after the prequels that was needed.

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Smashingpmkns
04/28/23 12:03:14 AM
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Andor is so good it almost doesn't deserve to be called a Star Wars property

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CaptainStrong
04/28/23 12:03:36 AM
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The only Star Wars things that exist are the trilogy of films from the late 70s and early 80s.
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theAteam
04/28/23 12:12:05 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Andor is so good it almost doesn't deserve to be called a Star Wars property

Ive seen quite a few discussions around the internet where people claim Andor ruined the rest of SW for them because everything else is such low effort in comparison.

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Punished_Blinx
04/28/23 12:13:43 AM
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theAteam posted...
Ive seen quite a few discussions around the internet where people claim Andor ruined the rest of SW for them because everything else is such low effort in comparison.

I can agree with that.

It's really hard for me to find the motivation to watch Mandalorian season 3 knowing I'm gonna be back to the simple stuff. Didn't even love that show all that much before I watched Andor. Feels even worse now.

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DarthAragorn
04/28/23 12:15:09 AM
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Andor would be seen as a legitimately great show if it wasn't Star Wars.

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Smashingpmkns
04/28/23 12:15:22 AM
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theAteam posted...
Ive seen quite a few discussions around the internet where people claim Andor ruined the rest of SW for them because everything else is such low effort in comparison.
Pretty much. People say it's unfair to compare Mandalorian to Andor because Andor is actually good or something.

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Trickfinger
04/28/23 12:16:02 AM
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CaptainStrong posted...
The only Star Wars things that exist are the trilogy of films from the late 70s and early 80s.
Fuck this.

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CaptainStrong
04/28/23 12:20:03 AM
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Trickfinger posted...
Fuck this.
Why?
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wackyteen
04/28/23 12:29:39 AM
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I've enjoyed most Didney Star Wars stuff.

It isn't the most mind blowing, life changing, thought provoking stuff but Star Wars isn't meant to be.

BuckVanHammer posted...
I kinda liked solo and went in with 0 expectations...
I've seen Solo 4 times and I've enjoyed it more and more with each subsequent viewing experience

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Trickfinger
04/28/23 12:31:15 AM
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CaptainStrong posted...
Why?
Because there is far too much good SW content outside of those old ass movies.

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BearlyWilling
04/28/23 12:33:52 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
we were curious


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NoxObscuras
04/28/23 12:33:58 AM
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Because Star Wars is a huge franchise and you don't have to like every. single. part. of it to enjoy the franchise overall. Like, even though they aren't considered canon by Disney, most of the Star Wars games have been fantastic to me. Star Wars Episode 1 Racer, the Jedi Knight games, the KotOR games and the Force Unleashed games are all games that I enjoyed. Then I've enjoyed several of the series that delve more into the universe than the movies do.

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Trickfinger
04/28/23 12:35:42 AM
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The games and books are canon, fuck what Disney has to say.

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MICHALECOLE
04/28/23 1:18:37 AM
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Solo was awesome
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CountDog
04/28/23 1:37:46 AM
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Definitely agree. Getting older, Kotor 2 is just about the only thing I appreciate out of starwars outside of older movies. Just the blatant cliche tropes delivered right in front of you. But it's not afraid to challenge your beliefs, or at least tries to pretend well enough that it's smart. And gives you characters that can be viewed from a more real spectrum, certainly a dark one. Been going through it slowly, and it's aged well, despite not being finished.

Still appreciate starwars here and there. Play Lego Skywalker last year. And the Jedi knight games. But the any of the new material just doesn't phase me at all. Just sort of numbing.

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Monolith1676
04/28/23 1:47:07 AM
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I happened to catch a scene on TV from The Last Jedi and it did not even seem like it was a Star Wars movie.

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Pepys_Monster
04/28/23 2:02:58 AM
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Star Wars Episode 1 and 3 are the best, imo

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Gobstoppers12
04/28/23 2:08:50 AM
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k bro, enjoy your opinion

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hockeybub89
04/28/23 2:20:45 AM
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At least they aren't the prequels

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Delta_Force
04/28/23 2:46:42 AM
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"This is the way" or something.

That's considered substance, right?

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roju
04/28/23 2:49:47 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/223-star-wars/80086351
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Rai_Jin
04/28/23 2:52:56 AM
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can't they make something about a full force sith society on one of those sith planets?

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Returning_CEmen
04/28/23 3:17:01 AM
#34:


goatthief posted...
Okay so it's really a mixed bag with the Disney stuff.

The Good
Mando
Rogue One
Andor

The Bad
The Sequels
Boba Fett
Obi Wan

The ugly
Solo
Solo was a great movie. Rank it with the Good dammit

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Trickfinger
04/28/23 3:17:01 AM
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Monolith1676 posted...
I happened to catch a scene on TV from The Last Jedi and it did not even seem like it was a Star Wars movie.
Could say that about the prequels too.

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rexcrk
04/28/23 4:53:18 AM
#36:


Youre right. Its not good.

Its fucking great

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vycebrand2
04/28/23 5:55:44 AM
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Doe posted...
at least the Disney stuff. there is no substance to any of these stories. Minimal characterization and you already know what's gonna happen because the 1 dimensionally evil villain needs to get epic'd on by someone using the force. bonus if they use the force to block a cave in or explosion, which happens in obi wan and mandalorian and maybe more.

I just don't get the hype
Even the OT cribs alot from Dune.

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/28/23 6:29:14 AM
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Andor is in fact so good that even as a Star Wars fan, I felt that it was too good to be a Star Wars thing

It's kind of in a league of its own, even compared to the Original Trilogy honestly

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buddhamonster
04/28/23 6:36:16 AM
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Doe posted...
Minimal characterization and you already know what's gonna happen because the 1 dimensionally evil villain needs to get epic'd on by someone using the force.
It's a little worse then that, to me. While this is still absolutely the case, there's another layer at work here. Almost every single thing they've done is set in an era on the timeline where there is no question as to what happens next. Like, no matter how much you play up Obi Wan's story, we know where it's going and how it ends, essentially removing any tension or stakes from anything he does. Yea, it can still be tense in the moment, but the second you realize, "Oh yea, he still needs to be on Tatooine for the start of A New Hope...", whatever happens next just turns to, well... fluff.

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pegusus123456
04/28/23 6:47:20 AM
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The only Star Wars I've watched is Mando, Book of Boba Fett, and the OT.

I don't really see the issue with them being simple stories. Not everything needs to be The Wire or Breaking Bad, sometimes a basic good vs evil plot is fun.

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rexcrk
04/28/23 6:51:48 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The only Star Wars I've watched is Mando, Book of Boba Fett, and the OT.

I don't really see the issue with them being simple stories. Not everything needs to be The Wire or Breaking Bad, sometimes a basic good vs evil plot is fun.


Because simple stories arent the in thing right now so people have to try and make something like that out to be something horrible so that they can look like theyve got some big brain energy going but theyre actually just massively insecure.


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RchHomieQuanChi
04/28/23 6:51:59 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The only Star Wars I've watched is Mando, Book of Boba Fett, and the OT.

I don't really see the issue with them being simple stories. Not everything needs to be The Wire or Breaking Bad, sometimes a basic good vs evil plot is fun.

I agree that simple stories can be fun, but I feel like Star Wars leans back on that way too much.

When everything is simple, it all starts to feel the same. Especially when they all take place during roughly the same time period. Like, how many more stories set during the Galactic Civil War do we really need?

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pegusus123456
04/28/23 6:54:59 AM
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That's fair, my opinion might be different if I'd seen Solo, Obi-Wan, Clone Wars, and all the rest.

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ZevLoveDOOM
04/28/23 7:00:29 AM
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Mandalorian, Rogue One, Visions and Andor are really the only Disney Star Wars stuff i enjoyed.

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buddhamonster
04/28/23 7:01:19 AM
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rexcrk posted...
Because simple stories arent the in thing right now so people have to try and make something like that out to be something horrible so that they can look like theyve got some big brain energy going but theyre actually just massively insecure.
It's not that I'm massively insecure and so need to exercise some kind of omega big brain energy, and more that I'm bored to tears watching this shit, and find myself increasing uninterested in sinking dozens of hours into a story with virtually no payoff whatsoever. You can only feed me a bland, flavorless sandwich so many times before I go and find something else to eat...

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/28/23 7:04:02 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
That's fair, my opinion might be different if I'd seen Solo, Obi-Wan, Clone Wars, and all the rest.

FWIW, I enjoyed Solo quite a bit despite being "simple". It leaned heavy into the Western vibe so I dug it.

And Clone Wars, especially Season 7, is top-tier Star Wars content.

Obi-Wan....existed. I didn't hate it but there were so many weird decisions they made with that show.

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ZevLoveDOOM
04/28/23 7:07:26 AM
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i really need to get into Clone Wars. not a fan of the animation but the show itself seemed nice!
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Prismsblade
04/28/23 7:08:58 AM
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The Mandalorian is the only great thing they've created and if not for baby Yoda nobody could have given a crap about that. And I'm not really counting clone wars S7, or the bad batch that are continuations of pre Disney era shows.

Now that they've refused to abandon the sequel trilogy I couldn't care less about the current timeline and future at all.

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codey
04/28/23 7:17:33 AM
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I enjoy Star Wars, but the fan base really does crack me up. No matter what Star Wars content they do like, it's gonna add up to about 50% of the movies, no more. Now whether it's the prequels they hate or the sequels, it doesn't matter, because part of being a star wars fan means you have to hate them.

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VeggetaX
04/28/23 7:19:52 AM
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What a very different hot take. Only TC hates Star Wars.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
04/28/23 7:34:51 AM
#51:


Solo is not good but it does not rank as raging dumpster fire as the ST does, the ST literally hates the OT characters and does all it can to shit on them as often as possible.

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