Poll of the Day > 0c is 32f right?

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So 0c + 0c = 64f, ya?

32f to 64f brings you straight past MILF into the granny category

0c to 30c is going from freezing to ball sweating

in the same vein, 32f to 80f is also going from freezing to ball sweating, but you have a lot more granularity in how easily to accurately determine what the temperature is, since it's a longer distance than 30 (30 vs 48)

but really the only thing that matters is you use the one you're used to. the one you use will always -- no matter what -- be easier and friendlier than the one you don't. even if you learn the other, you will always have an easier time figuring things out with the one you grew up with.

neither is better or worse than the other, they both have their advantages and disadvantages.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

0c to 30c is going from freezing to ball sweating

in the same vein, 32f to 80f is also going from freezing to ball sweating, but you have a lot more granularity in how easily to accurately determine what the temperature is, since it's a longer distance than 30 (30 vs 48)

but really the only thing that matters is you use the one you're used to. the one you use will always -- no matter what -- be easier and friendlier than the one you don't. even if you learn the other, you will always have an easier time figuring things out with the one you grew up with.

neither is better or worse than the other, they both have their advantages and disadvantages.

You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between 11c and 12c, so further granularity is worthless, and 0c freezing and 100c boiling is universally valid. Farenheit has zero value and is not used in any context with any significance. Technically Kelvin is objectively better, but c centres on factors we actually use in life, so is contextually more useful.

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This is why we use Kelvin for most things in science.

On Rankine if you're absolutely batshit insane.

faramir77 posted...

On Rankine if you're absolutely batshit insane.

i almost regret finding out this exists

it had to, but i didn't want to know

Kyuubi4269 posted...

You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between 11c and 12c, so further granularity is worthless, and 0c freezing and 100c boiling is universally valid. Farenheit has zero value and is not used in any context with any significance. Technically Kelvin is objectively better, but c centres on factors we actually use in life, so is contextually more useful.

lmao no, go outside and touch grass kyub

if you can't tell the difference between 11c and 12c then you must be a pretty wide guy.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Technically Kelvin is objectively better, but c centres on factors we actually use in life, so is contextually more useful.

I'd say it's objectively worse for colloquial use, purely for the fact that it requires more syllables than Celsius in most circumstances. A similar principle can be applied to defend using Imperial colloquially in some contexts ("inch" is significantly shorter than "centimetre," though "litre" and "gallon" are the same).

ConfusedTorchic posted...

if you can't tell the difference between 11c and 12c then you must be a pretty wide guy.

Unless you're comparing them side by side, the only way you're going to notice an appreciable difference between them is if you make a conscious effort to appreciate the difference, at which point that's on you and not the temperature scale. It's not significant at all.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between 11c and 12c

You say this, but I'd argue there's a noticeable difference between a few degrees, depending on where on the scale you are.

I may have trouble telling the difference between 52 (~11c) and 54 (~12c), but I can absolutely tell the difference between 68 and 70 and 72 degrees when entering a room. Extra granularity isn't necessary, but it's still an improvement on the alternative.



Kyuubi4269 posted...

Farenheit has zero value and is not used in any context with any significance

Life is a pretty significant context. Far more so for the average person than literally any scientific context.

Fahrenheit is based on human experience. 0 and 100 are the points where survival starts to become impossible without external support. It makes a very neat numerical span for environmental temperatures under normal conditions.

Celsius is based on scientific applications (more specifically, the temperature of water), which is why it tends to work better for scientific contexts. But it doesn't scale to real world temperatures as well, because you're basically locked into to a scale between -18 and 38 (give or take).

Sure, people who are raised judging temperature via Celsius will be more used to it, but it doesn't necessarily make it the best system for it - in the same way the fact we could all learn to understand weather forecasts if they were given in Kelvin doesn't mean weathermen should be predicting that it's going to be 289 degrees and sunny tomorrow.

80 isn't that hot.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Extra granularity isn't necessary, but it's still an improvement on the alternative.

How so? What value does it add? Especially considering that adding half-degree increments to thermostats is very easy for those that are so picky about room temperature (not that you can even tell on an analog thermostat), and you definitely can't tell the difference between an adjustment of 0.5C and an adjustment of 1F.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Celsius is based on scientific applications (more specifically, the temperature of water), which is why it tends to work better for scientific contexts. But it doesn't scale to real world temperatures as well, because you're basically locked into to a scale between -18 and 38 (give or take).

That's largely arbitrary, though. Whatever the scale, people will come to develop their own understandings about what feels comfortable, what doesn't, and what they need to do to become comfortable when outside of their comfort zone. It's pretty much never going to be "I feel comfortable between 0 and 100F," it's going to be "I feel comfortable in the temperatures to which I'm exposed most often, with a few degrees of personal preference." Whether room temperature is 70 or 20, that's going to be the temperature most people want to keep their rooms.

I'd argue that the only non-arbitrary point is 0C, since the freezing point of water has practical applications for understanding what a given weather report means: If it's below 0, you need to be concerned about ice and it's possible that any forecast rain will end up being snow. Of course, in practice, it's usually anywhere under about 3-4 that you need to start watching out for ice, and there's pretty much no functional difference between remembering that threshold as 0 and remembering it as 32, but it's still a matter of using an important threshold with real-world significance as 0. That said, 0F is also useful because it's the rough point below which you shouldn't expect salt to help with ice, since it's the freezing point of a saturated solution of ammonium chloride, but that's not exactly common knowledge.

I keep my phone and thermostat on Celsius.

0 or below I dont go outside for long and wear pants
0-10 I do pants
10-20 I do shorts or pants
20-30 I do shorts
30+ I dont go outside for long and wear shorts

Its easy.

Americans use Fahrenheit because Richard Nixon thought Americans were too stupid to switch to metric. There's a reason every single other country in the world aside from Myanmar and Liberia switched to metric.

faramir77 posted...

Americans use Fahrenheit because Richard Nixon thought Americans were too stupid to switch to metric. There's a reason every single other country in the world aside from Myanmar and Liberia switched to metric.

He was right.

Is Celsius considered metric? I wouldn't describe it as such.