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Scintillant
05/19/23 11:17:44 AM
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FelineCyborg
05/19/23 11:29:37 AM
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i think guns kind of escalate things with the killing.

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Hornezz
05/19/23 11:30:36 AM
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It's significantly easier for people to kill with access to guns.

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MagnusX
05/19/23 11:30:52 AM
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Always said by a chud who hates gun control that's been proven to work around the world because they'd rather Murrica be filled with more Y'all Queda gun-obsessed chuds.
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LightHawKnight
05/19/23 11:31:30 AM
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If they actually believed that, they would want more mental health care.

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sevihaimerej
05/19/23 11:31:56 AM
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Until sentient guns are a thing that's pretty much how it is, a gun is just an extremely effective (way too effective actually) tool for it

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Heineken14
05/19/23 11:32:48 AM
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That it's fucking stupid and it ignores the fact that guns make it infinitely easier to kill people and that America absolutely has a gun problem.

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pauIie
05/19/23 11:33:46 AM
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Hornezz posted...
It's significantly easier for people to kill with access to guns.
these.

also, if you bring up things we could do to help people's health/metal health etc, chances are these people won't want to do those things either.

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Nemu
05/19/23 11:35:03 AM
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The overall amount of guns hasn't been the cause of the rising issues in America for sure. If you could make all guns poof away, that'd obviously stop all existing gun issues, but without that magic ability we need to somehow focus on the mental health aspect by fixing our horrible healthcare system.
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Foppe
05/19/23 11:36:27 AM
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People = kills
People + guns = more kills

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Derwood
05/19/23 11:36:45 AM
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One of the dumbest phrases ever

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orcus_snake
05/19/23 11:37:18 AM
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first world problem from a first world country with first world issues.

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Questionmarktarius
05/19/23 11:40:24 AM
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Guns make it a hell of a lot easier.
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the_final_bahamut
05/19/23 11:40:25 AM
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I think it's a very importance message to protect the many hardworking, honest Gun Americans. They or their forebears immigrated here from Gunitania, and made careers for themselves in collaborations with local hunters, former cowboys and as part of amusement parks. They worked hard to keep their children oiled and fed with bullets, and they built communities for themselves, Little Barrettalies, where their children could thrive and be modded with more ammo capacity and better rifling, but now you condemn all of them over the same gunbarrel because some few wayward Gun Americans do drugs, fall in with the wrong crowd and end up in the clutches of White Americans who use them to commit mass shootings. Shame on you, I say.

Obviously it's a braindead sentence.

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Samurai_Man
05/19/23 11:49:05 AM
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People kill people, its pretty simple.

If they didn't have access to a gun they'd still use a knife, a hammer, a pencil, etc, etc, etc.


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SilvosForever
05/19/23 11:50:29 AM
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It's sure as shit harder for a person to kill 20 other human beings with just a knife than an AR15.

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ai123
05/19/23 11:50:44 AM
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There are surprisingly few mass pencillings in countries that are not awash with guns.

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the_final_bahamut
05/19/23 11:52:30 AM
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Samurai_Man posted...
People kill people, its pretty simple.

If they didn't have access to a gun they'd still use a knife, a hammer, a pencil, etc, etc, etc.

If you can't see the difference in outcomes between someone walking into a school with an AR-15 looking to kill people and someone walking into a school with a pencil looking to kill people, then you are not mentally equipped to have this conversation.

Also, tell me the number of people who, in 2022 were killed or seriously injured by pencil. I'll wait.

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Questionmarktarius
05/19/23 11:52:41 AM
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Meanwhile, in Japan...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack
If you want to cause mayhem, you will figure out how.
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NecroFoul99
05/19/23 11:54:55 AM
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People kill people. Guns make it easier to give in to violent impulses and can trick people into thinking theyre badass.

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pedro45
05/19/23 11:55:20 AM
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Samurai_Man posted...
People kill people, its pretty simple.

If they didn't have access to a gun they'd still use a knife, a hammer, a pencil, etc, etc, etc.

Except that's false.

When people are given the choice of pushing a person to their death to save a runaway train, they can't.
When those people are given say, a button or a lever, they can kill an individual to save a runaway train.

There's a difference between you actually killing someone and then letting something else do all the work.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/19/23 11:56:16 AM
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what are your thoughts on "guns don't kill people, people kill people"

It's a poor deflection that no one would use to argue the inverse; in favor of legalizing more powerful weapons.
Well, no sane person.

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Questionmarktarius
05/19/23 11:56:53 AM
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Why bother with arson, when it's trivial to get a gun?
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orcus_snake
05/19/23 11:57:47 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Meanwhile, in Japan...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack
If you want to cause mayhem, you will figure out how.

Oh for sure!

That said, you have that one incident versus the fuckton of school shootings, there's a reason people use the phrase "sorry, I don't speak school shooter" and that is not even counting movie theaters, clubs, cinema, etc.
You also don't see people making fun of japan for any prevalent type of mass killing incident due to easy access to whatever tool facilitated the incident because those are indeed isolated incidents unlike the "isolated incident" meme that murica also shoulders.

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Ragnarider
05/19/23 11:57:58 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Meanwhile, in Japan...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack
If you want to cause mayhem, you will figure out how.

And we need to make it as hard as possible for those who want to cause mayhem.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/19/23 11:58:45 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Why bother with arson, when it's trivial to get a gun?

That's the point. As force multipliers go, guns are the best in terms of access and effectiveness.
Likewise, the point of regulation is to address the most problematic force multiplier.

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LightHawKnight
05/19/23 11:59:26 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Meanwhile, in Japan...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack
If you want to cause mayhem, you will figure out how.

I mean so are you saying all laws shouldnt exist, cause people will do insane stupid shit anyways?

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Samurai_Man
05/19/23 11:59:26 AM
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pedro45 posted...
Except that's false.

When people are given the choice of pushing a person to their death to save a runaway train, they can't.
When those people are given say, a button or a lever, they can kill an individual to save a runaway train.

There's a difference between you actually killing someone and then letting something else do all the work.
Except this is false.

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the_final_bahamut
05/19/23 11:59:52 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Meanwhile, in Japan...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack
If you want to cause mayhem, you will figure out how.

You might notice that you're referencing an event from 2019 that caused national outrage and grief and resulted in legal policy changes, whereas there have been more mass shootings than days in the year of our lobster 2023, yes? Hell, more people have died from mass shootings in the US just this month of May than died in that fire. And the same holds true for every month of this year.


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Questionmarktarius
05/19/23 12:00:06 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
I mean so are you saying all laws shouldnt exist, cause people will do insane stupid shit anyways?
Last I checked, murder and arson are illegal in Japan.
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Ragnarider
05/19/23 12:03:14 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Last I checked, murder and arson are illegal in Japan.

Do you play a rogue? Because you dodged that question like a pro.
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Derwood
05/19/23 12:11:58 PM
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Gun violence is often a result of access to the gun.

If someone gets into an argument/altercation and is carrying a gun, the chances of that gun being used are very high. I that person was not carrying the gun, they might not have entered into the altercation to begin with
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Dancedreamer
05/19/23 12:14:22 PM
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Then guns don't protect people. People protect people.

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Tmaster148
05/19/23 12:15:19 PM
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Samurai_Man posted...
People kill people, its pretty simple.

If they didn't have access to a gun they'd still use a knife, a hammer, a pencil, etc, etc, etc.

Mass Shootings are a problem. Yet we really don't hear of Mass Stabbings, Mass Bludgeonings, or Mass Pencillings.

Because guns are the issue.

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Starks
05/19/23 12:16:00 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AADbVYAAEfdt.jpg

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voldothegr8
05/19/23 12:17:22 PM
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It's a logically correct statement. A gun is merely an object like a baseball bat or car.


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Tenlaar
05/19/23 12:18:40 PM
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Its an idiotic nothing phrase meant to disregard the obvious affect that mass gun ownership with little regulation has on a society.
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Heartomaton
05/19/23 12:19:01 PM
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https://youtu.be/of434KBRDvY

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justaguy3492
05/19/23 12:19:58 PM
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Starks posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AADbVYAAEfdt.jpg

https://youtu.be/xC03hmS1Brk

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voldothegr8
05/19/23 12:21:37 PM
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Starks posted...
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Well, moron, good for Happy GilmOH MY GOD!

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UnsteadyOwl
05/19/23 12:22:44 PM
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The people who try to pretend someone can kill just as effectively with any weapon as they can with a gun are being astoundingly disingenuous. There's a reason we send our troops into battle with rifles instead of spears or bows.

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DarthAragorn
05/19/23 12:25:05 PM
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ai123 posted...
There are surprisingly few mass pencillings in countries that are not awash with guns.
Yeah but did you hear about the time John Wick killed 3 men in a bar with a pencil? With a fucking pencil?

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pedro45
05/19/23 12:29:20 PM
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Samurai_Man posted...
Except this is false.

Do you have proof?
I've watched the experiment happen. I figured there'd be at least one person who would push someone into a train to save its passengers but it didn't happen. It also wasn't the biggest group of people, but enough to prove the obvious point.

Try not to lie to yourself too often or you might distort your own reality.


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pauIie
05/19/23 12:33:24 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Well, moron, good for Happy GilmOH MY GOD!
played that perfectly in my head

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divot1338
05/19/23 12:35:19 PM
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When I can mow down a crowd of people with just my hands I will accept it as a logical take on the gun control problem.

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