Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 5: Settle It in Smash!

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Corrik7
05/24/23 7:17:11 AM
#401:


Chris trying to derail a red lynch again...

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SirChris
05/24/23 7:19:04 AM
#402:


Obellisk posted...
I've been night killed night 1 more than you lately.

Hey I am just an old man these days around here. I play pretty friendly so if people don't want to fear me thats alright.

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masterplum
05/24/23 7:19:16 AM
#403:


Lets roll corrik

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SirChris
05/24/23 7:19:31 AM
#404:


Corrik7 posted...
Chris trying to derail a red lynch again...

##unvote:
##vote: Red

Damn my desire to lynch my top scum suspect I am truly the worst

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htaeD
05/24/23 7:19:46 AM
#405:


Obellisk posted...


ok, please find me a game where I as scum successfully undermined Chris.

as Chris said, even on my best day I'm still a shitty mafia player

Hey scumyou could be trying so something new.
Tho even if you are town. I dont like it

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SirChris
05/24/23 7:20:11 AM
#406:


Oh no don't let the day be between my top two suspects

Stop

Anything but that

Must derail somehow

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htaeD
05/24/23 7:21:17 AM
#407:


But I do feel I should be nice and check Chris myself

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Obellisk
05/24/23 7:22:36 AM
#408:


htaeD posted...
Hey scunyou could be trying so something new.

I don't know how to new. I don't learn from past games. I'm not good at mafia.

Everything I think is wrong. In my 10+ years of playing I've never successfully led a lynch on scum, caught scum or even won games for either allignment.

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SirChris
05/24/23 7:23:46 AM
#409:


Will say it is pretty interesting that plum is now voting with lea though after that big case against her

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ctesjbuvf
05/24/23 7:26:30 AM
#410:


If you really don't want to lynch Ulti despite damning evidence, Red is not a bad lynch, but I'm staying where I am until someone makes a convincing case of how T4P65 ever makes sense as town. People really want to completely ignore it was the only time fish was ever brought up at that point and like to act as if fish is such a distracting word that they are incapable of looking at what I'm asking to look at.

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SirChris
05/24/23 7:28:23 AM
#411:


ctesjbuvf posted...
If you really don't want to lynch Ulti despite damning evidence, Red is not a bad lynch, but I'm staying where I am until someone makes a convincing case of how T4P65 ever makes sense as town. People really want to completely ignore it was the only time fish was ever brought up at that point and like to act as if fish is such a distracting word that they are incapable of looking at what I'm asking to look at.

Is that where he said be town read me day 1 because I mentioned fish lol

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Obellisk
05/24/23 7:29:32 AM
#412:


wasn't he quoting Chris from a prior post where Chris first mentioned fish?

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MZero
05/24/23 7:31:52 AM
#413:


Insert Votals Here
[6] Red - (Ulti), Lea, (Chris), (Chris), (Joyrock), (Chris), Ulti, Joyrock, Cody, Corrik, plum
[5] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes, (Chris), death, Chris
[1] Cody - SBell, (Chris), (Chang), (Joyrock)
[0] Lea - (Ulti), (Plum), (Corrik), (Chang)
[0] Joyrock - (Ulti)
[0] Plum - (Ulti)
[0] Wallz - (Ulti)

wow look at all these people fine with the ulti lynch

not a single person pushing back

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SirChris
05/24/23 7:33:00 AM
#414:


Ulti isn't voting himself right

Yeaaaah lmao plum is just going for it huh

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MZero
05/24/23 7:33:42 AM
#415:


I should spend more than 30 seconds doing votals before posting

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SirChris
05/24/23 7:34:10 AM
#416:


New crackpot theory. Peaf gave ulti the gun lol

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Obellisk
05/24/23 7:36:06 AM
#417:


##unvote

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SirChris
05/24/23 7:36:36 AM
#418:


UltimaterializerX posted...
You're an asshole as scum, but I would think that first bit is a bridge too far even for you. Not touching the second bit but I have my reasons for using it as a town read. Putting it here as a &&&mental note.

He quoted me mentioning fish day 1 as to why he town read me and when I asked he said he wouldn't want to go into it lol

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Corrik7
05/24/23 7:42:40 AM
#419:


Ulti is town so no.

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ctesjbuvf
05/24/23 7:43:32 AM
#420:


Obellisk posted...
wasn't he quoting Chris from a prior post where Chris first mentioned fish?

Yes, and claimed he had his own reasons for town reading Chris based on it, but it's such an obscure mechanic/role that you don't read it as any hint unless you received it (which we know he did not, Cody got it). He later claimed it was because he had a similar working role, but even if that was true, Ulti does not see that post and thinks "oh it must be a role similar to mine" and even if we play along and say that he did, it should not ever be a town clear. Town having several random item vendors is never a logical conclusion you make in that weird scenario. And of course no one else has said they received anything so likely he is not any time of vendor.

Ulti later used probability to cite why he thought Chris was not scum, but he pretty darn clearly stated that specific Chris fish hinting post as a reason as well. He would not have quoted it otherwise.

Ulti made a later post hinting he scanned Chris, although he went back on it, so I'm guessing it was initially his plan to claim some scanner type thing and that's why he thought it was town, until he later decided being some vendor himself made more sense. This doesn't have to be true however, Ulti's actions still do not track. Town Ulti never sees that post, understands what it was a hint to and town clears Chris for it unless he had information that someone received a fish. I'm guessing he slipped some knowledge he had in an attempt to "prove" himself which later did not work out.

The italic part is the most essential here.

And I would love for anything to tell me how I could be wrong about that part, but no one has even attempted, it's been agreed with by some, ignored completely by some others, and then some of you also decided you head could not comprehend the case because it included the word fish.

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htaeD
05/24/23 7:47:25 AM
#421:


Okay who here is even lynching red and saying Ulti is town besides Corrik

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ctesjbuvf
05/24/23 7:48:09 AM
#422:


Plum and Lea have at least voiced some doubts about the case.

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htaeD
05/24/23 7:52:32 AM
#423:


Then them I can atleast understand.

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PeaceFrog
05/24/23 7:57:51 AM
#424:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80454200

At 450, if you please

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SirChris
05/24/23 8:02:26 AM
#425:


In an ideal world this is just scum/scum tbh

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SirChris
05/24/23 8:06:44 AM
#426:


Only thing I don't love is the people on red are on the whole much less towny to me and the basis of a red suspicion is a lot of activity versus ulti actively making little sense.

This doesn't feel like scum/scum wagons to me in how they have formed but I could be off on that.

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SirChris
05/24/23 8:07:34 AM
#427:


Plum is just acting so strange. Says he can't read either red or ulti to voting with Lea.

It's just weird what is plum doing

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SirChris
05/24/23 8:09:45 AM
#428:


Literally the only person I trust on red atm is corrik geesh that's such a divide.

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SirChris
05/24/23 8:12:24 AM
#429:


Trying to think of some weird setup where town is in trouble if we mislynch today

Something like the team is ulti/plum/cody/? And ulti was given a gun by peaf and Cody plans to backup the gunsmith to give scum another to scum ao it warrants blatant saving of ulti as they just need a bit more

Possibly just seeing ghosts I suppose

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SirChris
05/24/23 8:13:44 AM
#430:


I have to think this is agenda'd though as not listening to me is one thing but ctes and mzero have built an excellent case as well

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/24/23 8:18:33 AM
#431:


VOTALS UPDATED FROM PAGE 5
[6] Red - (Ulti), Lea, (Chris), (Chris), (joyrock),(Chris), Joyrock, Ulti,Cody, Corrik,Plum
[5] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes,( Chris),Death, Chris
[0] Lea - (Ulti), (Plum), (Corrik), (Chang)
[0] Joyrock -( Ulti)
[0] Cody- (sbell), (Chris),(chang),(Joyrock)
[0] Plum - (Ulti)
[0] Wallz - (Ulti)

With 15 players, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends on Wednesday at 7 PM EDT

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masterplum
05/24/23 8:38:50 AM
#432:


##Unvote

Yeah these votals on red are terrible

hmm

I hopped on because I like Corrik

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 8:47:23 AM
#433:


I still think ulti is scum. If hes town he played it totally nonsensically and despite me inevitably getting shit on by ulti and Corrik or whoever I wont regret leaving my vote.

Red seems awfully scummy. The lack of posts is one thing but hes not really hunting or solving. My early impression of red from these games Ive played is hes either hunched in the corner hiding (Paper Mario which I read, here) or sprinting towards you with a steak knife

I might move my vote to red but my main concern is red is the alternative to scum Ulti. Man if red is town I still think it could be ulti/plum/crescent, add corrik/?

maybe Lea as that 5th slot despite corriks little votes on her

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 8:51:15 AM
#434:


I also think plum unvoting red immediately after Chris taps plum with a feather doesnt look too great either

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masterplum
05/24/23 8:55:59 AM
#435:


Ulti I think its time to give your real claim

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 9:02:10 AM
#436:


masterplum posted...
Ulti I think its time to give your real claim

This is exactly like last game. Ctes was on the ropes for the first of 12 in-game days and Marth was trying to help him out. Cmon ctes you cant really believe that? Ctes, when you said this, did you actually mean this?

Plum deserves props for being a real bro to scum ulti but he is just not making any effort at subtlety.

Ulti had numerous chances to claim. He has said he was trying to bait a nk as cake or beetle vendor. Its not just his claims changing, its his motives and they are all over the place.

ulti thought everyone was scum d1 but vetoed a crescent lynch when there was scarcely any traction. Crescent suspecting plums basically first post of the game was weird af. Ulti voted plum immediately despite claiming to find me scummy because ulti believed my scan

ulti/plum/crescent are 3 of scum team as I laid out on day 1 despite being afk. Corrik randomly went after me for suggesting crescent being scum was dependent on plum being scum despite me not saying that at all. Also, Corrik is never wrong, therefore he must be the 4th scum.

We are missing one.

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Corrik7
05/24/23 9:02:18 AM
#437:


wallmasterz posted...
I still think ulti is scum. If hes town he played it totally nonsensically and despite me inevitably getting shit on by ulti and Corrik or whoever I wont regret leaving my vote.

Red seems awfully scummy. The lack of posts is one thing but hes not really hunting or solving. My early impression of red from these games Ive played is hes either hunched in the corner hiding (Paper Mario which I read, here) or sprinting towards you with a steak knife

I might move my vote to red but my main concern is red is the alternative to scum Ulti. Man if red is town I still think it could be ulti/plum/crescent, add corrik/?

maybe Lea as that 5th slot despite corriks little votes on her
My "little votes"? What does that mean?

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masterplum
05/24/23 9:03:49 AM
#438:


I would never help out a scum teammate in a million years. Screw them

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 9:04:05 AM
#439:


They are inconsequential votes. Lea is not gaining any traction right now.

it wasnt a dig on you, Corrik. I dont have anything against you. Just talking about the votes themselves.

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 9:04:27 AM
#440:


masterplum posted...
I would never help out a scum teammate in a million years. Screw them

your white flag is in the mail

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Corrik7
05/24/23 9:06:28 AM
#441:


wallmasterz posted...
They are inconsequential votes. Lea is not gaining any traction right now.

it wasnt a dig on you, Corrik. I dont have anything against you. Just talking about the votes themselves.
It's not my fault they are inconsequential. I have made it clear Lea is my main choice of being scum. If anything, you should be arguing red is my inconsequential vote since I clearly prefer Lea.

Red is definitely the second best choice though since this town refuses to use its collective weight to extract claims and narrow the field.

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 9:07:47 AM
#442:


Ah yeah, Corrik and plum being scummates makes plenty of sense as well looking at 5.401 and 5.403. Looks like they were trying to reinvigorate the alternative lynch to ulti. Plus Corrik keeps insisting ulti is town despite there being nothing obvious about ulti being town. Lol

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masterplum
05/24/23 9:08:18 AM
#443:


##Unvote
##Vote:Lea

Back on Lea

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masterplum
05/24/23 9:09:18 AM
#444:


Actually you know what. Fuck it.

I don't like where we are heading

Lea, I want a claim please

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ctesjbuvf
05/24/23 9:09:54 AM
#445:


SirChris posted...
Trying to think of some weird setup where town is in trouble if we mislynch today

Something like the team is ulti/plum/cody/? And ulti was given a gun by peaf and Cody plans to backup the gunsmith to give scum another to scum ao it warrants blatant saving of ulti as they just need a bit more

Possibly just seeing ghosts I suppose

More often than not backup's of limited use don't get additional uses. Like how last game I could not back up your used strongman shot. So I don't scum can get two guns from Peaf.

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Corrik7
05/24/23 9:12:28 AM
#446:


wallmasterz posted...
Ah yeah, Corrik and plum being scummates makes plenty of sense as well looking at 5.401 and 5.403. Looks like they were trying to reinvigorate the alternative lynch to ulti. Plus Corrik keeps insisting ulti is town despite there being nothing obvious about ulti being town. Lol
Second time Wall has insisted people were linked as scum with Plum and has focused on the not Plum part of the equation.

Ulti is town. Just like Sultan was town last game. If you are town, your game is sad. If you are scum, you should pick better mislynch candidates.

I entertained Ulti could be scum because I misjudged him a prior game, but scum never uses probability arguments. Ulti is town af.

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 9:12:33 AM
#447:


Ulti/plum/crescent/Corrik

Lea and Red both look a lot better if all are scum imo. In a Lea town/red town scenario, plum and Corrik would just be trying to get a train on either one started

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Corrik7
05/24/23 9:13:04 AM
#448:


##unvote
##vote: Lea

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 9:13:45 AM
#449:


Oh look, the seesaw plum and Corrik are riding together has moved once again

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 9:15:14 AM
#450:


scum never uses probability arguments

If I get one person not named plum, ulti or crescent to agree with this argument Ill unvote ulti

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