Current Events > Why Do We Tolerate Fat Men More Than Fat Women?

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Because if youre choosing who to date based entirely on the criteria of are they hot, youre going to generally end up having poor quality relationships. Thats why its sad. This isnt some new concept, this is a pretty well worn idea.

When did this person imply that their relationships are poor quality or that they care that they are poor quality?

It's not the case in real life so much but it certainly is in the media. Women are pushing for broadening of "beauty standards" in a way men just aren't. Probably because resorting to such a tactic in lieu of self-improvement is (rightly) seen as a failure of character by most men

Get some new material instead of copying every other shitlord on the internet lol.

If that were the case, why aren't all the overweight men 'improving themselves'?

I'll have to take a page out of your book I suppose, "you can't get a date haha" is pretty fresh as an insult, after all

Yeah thats not what I said. I wrote a message that assumed people were dating and then tacked on this assumes youre dating at all, I suppose, because, shocker, some people dont. Including, you know. Aromantic and asexual people. Youre the one who took it as an insult.

Ah how did I not realize you were referring to asexual people when talking about how sad men are for their dating preferences and that said men might not be dating anyone. The connection is so obvious now. My b

Patriarchy/misogyny

Feels like a lot of this board is in their 40s/50s

Its a matter of degree; on average, fat men are more acceptable to society than fat women and face less harassment.

In what way?

Women are automatically judged on appearance by society at large. They see higher highs, and so to you it seems loke lower lows. But it is known that some people are still attracted to them, and there are movements to stop bullying of them.

No one is attracted to a fat man.
No terms exist like 'thicc' for overweight men.
Fat men are seen as a joke. They aren't even seriously considered for their looks. They're not even in the conversation.

tbqh ive never seen any kind of prevalent incidence of men being shitty to a fat woman for just existing, only for having feelings other than shame about being overweight

ive seen women just tear each other apart for being fat, skinny, average, pretty, ugly, etc. tho

You're either lying or youre blind. Given its you, Im going to go with the former.

are you gonna threaten to call me a potato again

No I pretty explicitly said I wouldnt be calling anyone a potato anymore since its allegedly a slur of some kind, even though it was literally just a random object I chose (of several) because I got modded for calling trolls more direct insults. I also never threatened to do so in the first place lol.

maybe find a better argument strategy than name-calling then idk. doesn't seem like it ever goes very well for you buddy.

The name calling usually goes alongside the well formed arguments, obviously. (Or is used when Ive decided Im done entertaining an argument with some particular piece of shit.) You probably havent noticed because you dont bother to actually read anything.

you make arguments beyond how unfair you think it is that you cant call me potato?

Yes, but again youve probably had a hard time noticing because you cant read.

how you gonna make me feel bad for being illiterate and then complain about fat shaming
i too am a product of society's failings

You're certainly a product of someones failings.

I said they are more acceptable to society and harassed less. Which is true regardless of whether no one is attracted to fat men.

no one is attracted to a fat man is just demonstrably untrue. Plenty of women are

no one is attracted to a fat man is just demonstrably untrue.

Wrong. It's socially acceptable to make fun of a fat man. It is not socially acceptable to make fun of a fat woman

A fat man can still increase his overall value by having a good job/status and thus punch above his weight. However, if we are taking a normal fat guy vs fat woman, the fat woman will be praised more, get laid more, etc

Women don't consider "personality" when it comes to a fat man unless the fat man already has certain prerequisites(good job, good social status, not a loser, etc).

You people are living in some insane alternate reality. Or maybe my state is just less shitty than wherever the hell you live. Because absolutely none of this is anything like my experiences or those of many of the people I know.

Its mostly the weird way you keep pretending women are a monolith thats insane to me.

Women of all sizes are criticized for their appearance far more than men.

Patriarchy/misogyny

Men want a woman who is good looking/pleasant to look at.

Women want a guy who is tall, good looking, has a good personality, has a great job, good social status, etc.

A man can make up for being fat or ugly through other factors. Because attraction to a man is dependent on multiple factors. Not just one thing.

Genders tend to like or prefer certain things or traits. The idea that everyone is just 100% different is rooted in flawed thinking.

And similarly, different women want different things.

Patriarchy/misogyny

Due to a variety of forces and historical biases, women's social value is sometimes defined solely by how attractive they are, whereas a man can be valuable via his talents, wealth, political power, etc.