Current Events > Britain and all former colonizers should return their stolen artefacts

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they should return every last one. the wealth they stole too

Is this about cleopatra?

Ancient history now and a lot of the places they'd be returning them too are politically instable for me to want to put priceless objects.

I think about the UK's coronation?

IIRC, there was a push to return one of the diamonds that was planned to be used (it ended up not being used, due to the publicity), and the UK refused, claiming that it'll create a precedent and lead to return everything in the British Museum.

But this also happened like a decade ago over Greek marbles.

So... not a new thing.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Ancient history now and a lot of the places they'd be returning them too are politically instable for me to want to put priceless objects.

britain and most of europe aren't looking too stable atm.

also, why is it "ancient history" now? Many of these countries didn't gain independence until after WW2. Would you tell that to holocaust survivors who want their stole wealth and history back because it was 90 years ago?

They should repeal the law that prevents them from returning the artifacts and then return them without delay.

Generally yes, with some exceptions like Anarchy mentioned. But there are quite a few artifacts that they have where the original countries are reasonably stable areas and even allies and its insane they still hold on to them.

Also I'd imagine a great many countries would likely let Britain keep exhibiting the artifacts, with the condition that the original country owns the artifact and that Britain provides a "rental fee" for its display.

Le_seuI__dieu__ posted...

britain and most of europe aren't looking too stable atm.

Sus comment.

also, why is it "ancient history" now? Many of these countries didn't gain independence until after WW2. Would you tell that to holocaust survivors who want their stole wealth and history back because it was 90 years ago?

Every artifact should be evaluated on its own merit. Broadly speaking I believe in the usual interpretation of property rights. Basically the country of origin should have to prove it was stolen under either Britain's or an international definition of theft.
Britain has the objects, they own them until proven otherwise. Also there's sort of (imo) an implied statute of limitations.
Nor I don't believe in any essentialist claim about the county of origin having a perpetual claim and entitlement to historical artifacts.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Ancient history now and a lot of the places they'd be returning them too are politically instable for me to want to put priceless objects.

have you considered that their instability might be related to their artifacts being stolen

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Sus comment.

Every artifact should be evaluated on its own merit. Broadly speaking I believe in the usual interpretation of property rights. Basically the country of origin should have to prove it was stolen under either Britain's or an international definition of theft.
Britain has the objects, they own them until proven otherwise. Also there's sort of (imo) an implied statute of limitations.
Nor I don't believe in any essentialist claim about the county of origin having a perpetual claim and entitlement to historical artifacts.

Piss off. The Brit Museum response to those who cant even witness their own cultures works is to come and see it here. Fuck outta here with that shit.

Nah, it's mine. I found it. Imma display it. Maybe I'll let you in on the profits.

Yes. Also, since we're talking about stolen things, the U.S. should return the stolen land to the natives. All of it.

Pikachuchupika posted...

Yes. Also, since we're talking about stolen things, the U.S. should return the stolen land to the natives. All of it.

^Republican trying to get the left to circle jerk about politically untenable positions.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

^Republican trying to get the left to circle jerk about politically untenable positions.

Lol what

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

^Republican trying to get the left to circle jerk about politically untenable positions.

he's right though

PowerfulSageIRL posted...

he's right though

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Good job alt posting.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/6/AAYZyTAAEia0.jpg

A lot of people won't be too happy at first

But it can be so gratifying to finally be able to let go

As a Brit, stuff should be returned tbh save for places where it's legitimately dangerous and would just get destroyed. Most places arent that.

Yes, it'd suck we cant see the 'actual historical' objects easily, but they also aren't ours and belong to places that still exist.

But our government, be it Labour or Tories, will destroy them before returning anything so seems a waste of time tbh when the UK has far more pressing things to demand of our fascist overlords.

PoopPotato posted...

Nah, it's mine. I found it. Imma display it. Maybe I'll let you in on the profits.

let's keep that attitude when europe is pillaged and everything of value is taken

Come and get them!

With modern 3D printing and digital scanning technology, it's possible to create indistinguishable replicas for almost any museum artifact you can think of. If all one cares about is preservation, than digitalization is by far the best method.

Offer to return any exhibit that can be replicated, or offer money in exchange for the original to stay in the museum.

havean776 posted...

Come and get them!

it seems ukraine is underway already. it's not crazy to imagine poland, hungary, or the baltics being next. Like I said, europe is not too stable. maybe their artifacts need to be kept safe somewhere else. Possibly Russia? Egpyt? I think China is good too

ZMythos posted...

With modern 3D printing and digital scanning technology, it's possible to create indistinguishable replicas for almost any museum artifact you can think of. If all one cares about is preservation, than digitalization is by far the best method.

Offer to return any exhibit that can be replicated, or offer money in exchange for the original to stay in the museum.

Agreed

Let the UK keep them

Lord_Shadow posted...

Let the UK keep them

why? it doesn't belong to them

Leon went into a village and took all their ancient gems and shit and sold it for guns

incredibly relevant

https://youtu.be/x73PkUvArJY