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ViewtifulJoe
06/09/23 6:47:31 PM
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What does declaring a character to be your waifu do for you? What are you required to do to maintain it?
I've seen people go to crazy lengths to assert that they are the most committed to certain characters. I've also seen people who frivolously use the word to mean they kind of like a character. Hard to tell what the consensus on the idea is anymore.

Whether you have one or not I'd like to hear interpretations of this.

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Ricemills
06/09/23 6:48:41 PM
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Happiness.

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Turbam
06/09/23 6:49:14 PM
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You wouldn't get it

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ViewtifulJoe
06/09/23 6:55:46 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Happiness.
Need further elaboration.
That could mean anything. Could mean any waifu = happiness, finding the right one = happiness or more waifus = more happiness. Who knows?

Turbam posted...
You wouldn't get it
Oh I might. Look at my name and sig. You think I don't know about starry-eyed fixations on the unattainable?
Try me.

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Tyranthraxus
06/09/23 6:57:44 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Need further elaboration.
That could mean anything. Could mean any waifu = happiness, finding the right one = happiness or more waifus = more happiness. Who knows?

You know how sometimes people get into arguments over who's a bigger fan of some sports team or singer? Imagine that except with anime girls.

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boomgetchopped3
06/09/23 6:58:57 PM
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Most likely a combination of a lack of options plus a really good imagination. These people would probably also be very good candidates for future space colonization that requires long periods of isolation.
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Ricemills
06/09/23 7:00:09 PM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Most likely a combination of a lack of options plus a really good imagination. These people would probably also be very good candidates for future space colonization that requires long periods of isolation.

Nah bro. They're a threat to hygiene.

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Sexypwnstar
06/09/23 7:01:20 PM
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The strength to make it to the next day

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stage4saiyan
06/09/23 7:01:23 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Happiness.


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LordMarshal
06/09/23 7:01:39 PM
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Im glad you made this topic. What answers were you expecting? Why do people go to a social board on a video game website?

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Skankhair
06/09/23 7:02:03 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Nah bro. They're a threat to hygiene.

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SomeLikeItHoth
06/09/23 7:03:05 PM
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2D girls are loyal.

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Prismsblade
06/09/23 7:10:28 PM
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They would them as they would a real woman and love interest. Hell in the future you're probably be seeing many more anime style AIs for this purpose so they can actually talk to them.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/09/23 7:13:31 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
You know how sometimes people get into arguments over who's a bigger fan of some sports team or singer? Imagine that except with anime girls.
That's one kind but that's probably reserved for the most cynical people among that crowd. The idea of being drawn to the character just so you can be as obnoxious as possible doesn't seem that widespread.
Even for people who end up like that, there had to be something that drew them toward the specific character and made them care.

Sexypwnstar posted...
The strength to make it to the next day
Tell me how the waifu imbues you with this power. Or do you find it in yourself because she exists?

LordMarshal posted...
Im glad you made this topic. What answers were you expecting? Why do people go to a social board on a video game website?
I expected mostly one word answers.
I also asked what the character does for you and what you have to do to maintain the link though.
I'd like someone to break it down, talking about the character they chose and why. What the character does, how it's changed their behavior, if they ever stop and go "What am I doing?" and all that.

If you want to look at the bleak stuff, I'm still curious about the differences between people with one and people with lots. Some people have Gacha characters as waifus apparently and this makes little sense to me.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/09/23 7:27:58 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
2D girls are loyal.
Are they? I'd assume their author gets the last say on that.
Isn't it also less that she's loyal and more that she's frozen in time after her series concluded with nothing on the horizon that might ruin your image of her?

Prismsblade posted...
They would them as they would a real woman and love interest. Hell in the future you're probably be seeing many more anime style AIs for this purpose so they can actually talk to them.
That would only do so much.
Wouldn't an AI learn solely from interactions and prompts you give? The onus would be on you to introduce spontaneity and new ideas into your so called relationship.
It'd be like repeatedly playing a video game and having to make up your own spins. Or even worse, it'd be like dating the algorithm.

I think it would also be hollow knowing you can manually tell her how to respond or alter her personality. Who knows how much time you'd have to spend studying limited material featuring the character and trying to figure out how you want the AI to respond to every little thing?

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super_felicia
06/09/23 7:35:07 PM
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It's fun to do I don't understand why it's so bad for people to Stan a character they like and say they are their favourite though if you call every anime character a waifu it loses its fun and becomes meaningless.

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Prismsblade
06/09/23 7:49:04 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
That would only do so much.
Wouldn't an AI learn solely from interactions and prompts you give? The onus would be on you to introduce spontaneity and new ideas into your so called relationship.
It'd be like repeatedly playing a video game and having to make up your own spins. Or even worse, it'd be like dating the algorithm.

My knowledge on the matter is only second hand. But from what I've heard while the AI would need some configuration after a while you can have full on conversations with in on a number of subject matter. And once it learns more about you would even start conversations on things you'd likely be interested in.

ViewtifulJoe posted...
I think it would also be hollow knowing you can manually tell her how to respond or alter her personality. Who knows how much time you'd have to spend studying limited material featuring the character and trying to figure out how you want the AI to respond to every little thing.
I mean, dating in and of itself can be a long, tiresome and tedious process. With AIs you you can passivily adjust them eventually to near perfect, anytime, anywhere and st your own pace.

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Priere
06/09/23 7:57:22 PM
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Waifus are life

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BloodMoon7
06/09/23 8:07:30 PM
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The sex is incredible.

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Liu_Kano
06/09/23 8:18:36 PM
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If you have to ask, you'll never know.

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DeathVelvien
06/09/23 8:21:00 PM
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A bandaid over the empty feeling of knowing I'm otherwise forever alone.

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bnui_ransder
06/09/23 8:26:13 PM
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I'd like to think the majority of us are doing it ironically.... I hope

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ViewtifulJoe
06/09/23 8:46:22 PM
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bnui_ransder posted...
I'd like to think the majority of us are doing it ironically.... I hope
One of the reasons I asked was because I've met people who have this approach where they use the waifu as motivation for self-improvement. No hoarding overpriced merch or trying to one-up other fans.

They'd frequently ask themselves "What have I done today to be worthy of her?" and they'd make the focus of their dedication her characterisation and virtues rather than solely her appearance.
As a relationship it still looks pretty lonely, but the way it seems to have morphed into some kind of self-motivation mechanism is interesting.

I was hoping some people here would be like that so I could ask them if it's working.

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greenjeans
06/09/23 8:49:40 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
The sex is incredible.
This is it
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greenjeans
06/09/23 8:50:47 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
One of the reasons I asked was because I've met people who have this approach where they use the waifu as motivation for self-improvement. No hoarding overpriced merch or trying to one-up other fans.

They'd frequently ask themselves "What have I done today to be worthy of her?" and they'd make the focus of their dedication her characterisation and virtues rather than solely her appearance.
As a relationship it still looks pretty lonely, but the way it seems to have morphed into some kind of self-motivation mechanism is interesting.

I was hoping some people here would be like that so I could ask them if it's working.
If they are doing it for them they are really doing it for thrmselves thus I see no problem
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ViewtifulJoe
06/09/23 8:56:33 PM
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DeathVelvien posted...
A bandaid over the empty feeling of knowing I'm otherwise forever alone.
Okay. Well how does this work?
How do you perpetrate the act of having a waifu? Do you have to make her your profile picture, go around telling other people that she's your waifu because she herself won't respond?
Do you have to buy merchandise? Find a way to involve her in as many things as possible?

At what point are you officially dedicated to the character instead of just saying you are?

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Ricemills
06/09/23 9:07:19 PM
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Priere posted...
Waifus are laifu

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Link_of_time
06/09/23 9:15:02 PM
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about the same as fawning over a actor or streamer or athlete.
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BloodMoon7
06/09/23 9:19:31 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Okay. Well how does this work?
How do you perpetrate the act of having a waifu? Do you have to make her your profile picture, go around telling other people that she's your waifu because she herself won't respond?
Do you have to buy merchandise? Find a way to involve her in as many things as possible?

At what point are you officially dedicated to the character instead of just saying you are?
As long as you keep her in your heart, this will be enough. We can't all buy $2000 figures. Not a day goes by where I don't think about my waifu.

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DeathVelvien
06/09/23 9:24:53 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Okay. Well how does this work?
How do you perpetrate the act of having a waifu? Do you have to make her your profile picture, go around telling other people that she's your waifu because she herself won't respond?
Do you have to buy merchandise? Find a way to involve her in as many things as possible?

At what point are you officially dedicated to the character instead of just saying you are?
Okay, let's actually thoroughly run it down. First off, as a disclaimer, I'm not one of the "one waifu only" people, and as such have multiple, even in the context of a single game/franchise. In that sense, a "waifu" is not truly an equivalent of a wife for me.

But with that out of the way, let me run down an example from Granblue Fantasy, the character Fraux. First of all: yes, she's my PFP over on Discord, and praise her when given the chance there (despite blowback from a couple people that don't like her at all).

Let's get into the material dedication though. As far as I know, there's no real merchandise specifically for her, and even if there was, Granblue merchandise goes almost exclusively through Japan, which makes things difficult. Even getting her is a matter of hours upon hours of grinding (but that's normal for Granblue), but I'm going a step beyond and preparing for her upcoming uncap (ie, raising her level cap). This is a multi-step grind, having to hit it from multiple sources and including shit like getting a drop that's got a 1/1000 chance of dropping that I need three of. Oh, and she'll also need an item that's timegated to one every couple months, and has a plethora of other uses. So again, literal dozens of hours put into specifically getting materials for her. And in the case of the uncap: there's no telling if it's even going to be good.

And that's just the grind. I've done everything I can to make her as strong as possible (again, using extremely limited in-game resources). And burned a good $30 on her swimsuit skin before I'd even actually recruited her. And the end result? She's just an okay unit, even with everything I put into her. But fuck the meta, I still took her into the game's competitive grindfest for the hardest fight just for the sake of getting to use her in the most important content in the game.

So basically, hours upon hours (possibly into the hundreds) of recruiting Fraux, working on the upcoming uncap, and giving her everything I possibly can just to force use of her in content for the sake of using my waifu. Also $30, about the only money I can actually spend. Also a lot of thinking about her future as a character, and the desire to write fanfic about her.

...God this probably sounds sad to outsiders to GBF lmao

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greenjeans
06/09/23 9:45:59 PM
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DeathVelvien posted...
Okay, let's actually thoroughly run it down. First off, as a disclaimer, I'm not one of the "one waifu only" people, and as such have multiple, even in the context of a single game/franchise. In that sense, a "waifu" is not truly an equivalent of a wife for me.

But with that out of the way, let me run down an example from Granblue Fantasy, the character Fraux. First of all: yes, she's my PFP over on Discord, and praise her when given the chance there (despite blowback from a couple people that don't like her at all).

Let's get into the material dedication though. As far as I know, there's no real merchandise specifically for her, and even if there was, Granblue merchandise goes almost exclusively through Japan, which makes things difficult. Even getting her is a matter of hours upon hours of grinding (but that's normal for Granblue), but I'm going a step beyond and preparing for her upcoming uncap (ie, raising her level cap). This is a multi-step grind, having to hit it from multiple sources and including shit like getting a drop that's got a 1/1000 chance of dropping that I need three of. Oh, and she'll also need an item that's timegated to one every couple months, and has a plethora of other uses. So again, literal dozens of hours put into specifically getting materials for her. And in the case of the uncap: there's no telling if it's even going to be good.

And that's just the grind. I've done everything I can to make her as strong as possible (again, using extremely limited in-game resources). And burned a good $30 on her swimsuit skin before I'd even actually recruited her. And the end result? She's just an okay unit, even with everything I put into her. But fuck the meta, I still took her into the game's competitive grindfest for the hardest fight just for the sake of getting to use her in the most important content in the game.

So basically, hours upon hours (possibly into the hundreds) of recruiting Fraux, working on the upcoming uncap, and giving her everything I possibly can just to force use of her in content for the sake of using my waifu. Also $30, about the only money I can actually spend. Also a lot of thinking about her future as a character, and the desire to write fanfic about her.

...God this probably sounds sad to outsiders to GBF lmao
Eh we like who we like

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06/09/23 9:51:30 PM
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ViewtifulJoe
06/09/23 10:28:06 PM
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DeathVelvien posted...
Okay, let's actually thoroughly run it down. First off, as a disclaimer, I'm not one of the "one waifu only" people, and as such have multiple, even in the context of a single game/franchise. In that sense, a "waifu" is not truly an equivalent of a wife for me.

But with that out of the way, let me run down an example from Granblue Fantasy, the character Fraux. First of all: yes, she's my PFP over on Discord, and praise her when given the chance there (despite blowback from a couple people that don't like her at all).

Let's get into the material dedication though. As far as I know, there's no real merchandise specifically for her, and even if there was, Granblue merchandise goes almost exclusively through Japan, which makes things difficult. Even getting her is a matter of hours upon hours of grinding (but that's normal for Granblue), but I'm going a step beyond and preparing for her upcoming uncap (ie, raising her level cap). This is a multi-step grind, having to hit it from multiple sources and including shit like getting a drop that's got a 1/1000 chance of dropping that I need three of. Oh, and she'll also need an item that's timegated to one every couple months, and has a plethora of other uses. So again, literal dozens of hours put into specifically getting materials for her. And in the case of the uncap: there's no telling if it's even going to be good.

And that's just the grind. I've done everything I can to make her as strong as possible (again, using extremely limited in-game resources). And burned a good $30 on her swimsuit skin before I'd even actually recruited her. And the end result? She's just an okay unit, even with everything I put into her. But fuck the meta, I still took her into the game's competitive grindfest for the hardest fight just for the sake of getting to use her in the most important content in the game.

So basically, hours upon hours (possibly into the hundreds) of recruiting Fraux, working on the upcoming uncap, and giving her everything I possibly can just to force use of her in content for the sake of using my waifu. Also $30, about the only money I can actually spend. Also a lot of thinking about her future as a character, and the desire to write fanfic about her.

...God this probably sounds sad to outsiders to GBF lmao
Appreciate the detail. So what she gives you above all else is objective after objective? It's not a person to person relationship but you open her game up and she's there every time with something for you to do?

I think I see some of the glass half full stances. Grinding would get boring to me but for you it's time spent with her? The game being luck based would make me drop it and walk immediately but I guess that's more waifu time to you and a dopamine rush when you get something good? The time gating thing would frustrate me but the way you talk about it it's like an important upcoming date to look forward to.

How does something like that start? I don't know much about this game at all other than I think AKSYS made a fighter out of it. How do these characters initially appeal to people before the player's story about sticking with her and defying the meta has even gotten off the ground? Like how much is the source material and how much is headcanon running wild?

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DeathVelvien
06/09/23 11:43:36 PM
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To a degree, yes; Granblue is an extremely grind-heavy game in general (with a rewarding sense of progression to make up for it), so setting goals is very important to keep going. Most of those goals end up being meta-focused (especially where I'm at in the progression, where most of my primary focus is racing others on battles to do enough damage to guarantee a chance at certain rewards), but a character like Fraux offers a different kind of goal, where it's not about necessarily about getting stronger, but about the love of a character.

And beyond just the pure gameplay side of things, Granblue is fairly story heavy. Characters have their own individual stories (Fraux's group with lengthy ones), several holidays have seasonal bits with the characters, and Fraux in particular is next in line for a series of slice-of-life story bits that have been running for her group. So there's a lot of that to look forward to with her as well.

But sadly, there is a limit to how much I'll be able to do with her in these regards. Just due to how the game works, I can only use her in fire teams which are only good against wind or nonelemental fights, the story content is eventually coming to an end (there's a real chance that the uncap for her that I mentioned will include the last real story bits for her), and even the seasonal lines eventually stop having new ones. So until then, I'm using her as much as I can, exactly for the idea of spending time with her. And yes, she is one of the characters on my home screen for the game, so I do see her often when I log on.

As for how this all started, it was from the fighting game; I played the story, and wanted some insight from the original gacha game to understand it better. Went in planning to just do the story, am now still playing this game three years later. With Fraux, it started with being initially decently struck by her physical design and base personality when I started working on recruiting her general group. Her summer skin definitely drew even more attention for me and made her a recruitment priority, and finally seeing those seasonal lines I mentioned ended up being what really drew me heavily to her.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/10/23 12:19:24 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
My knowledge on the matter is only second hand. But from what I've heard while the AI would need some configuration after a while you can have full on conversations with in on a number of subject matter. And once it learns more about you would even start conversations on things you'd likely be interested in.
That's kind of what I meant. You'd reach a point where you've been through all the things you're presently interested in, from that point it's transparently making guesses at other things you'd like. You're done talking about Payday 2 and the AI suddenly starts asking if you care about Payday 1 or 3, then L4D and it just keeps trying different FPS games.

She can guess based on your interests but it's going to be much harder for her to surprise you with something new that you'll probably like.
An ad. You're dating an advertisement by that point.

Prismsblade posted...
I mean, dating in and of itself can be a long, tiresome and tedious process. With AIs you you can passivily adjust them eventually to near perfect, anytime, anywhere and st your own pace.
Doesn't that highlight that it's less a partnership and more you simulating different aspects of one with no real continuity? "I think I'll set her to angry today and try and talk her out of her bad mood." "Oh, you know what couples do? They tease each other for fun sometimes! I'll tell her how to make fun of me and then pretend to react how I think I would!"

It must also hurt a little if you were getting immersed in a conversation and then she suddenly said something really jarring and out of place that only a bot would say.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/10/23 1:11:35 AM
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DeathVelvien posted...
To a degree, yes; Granblue is an extremely grind-heavy game in general (with a rewarding sense of progression to make up for it), so setting goals is very important to keep going. Most of those goals end up being meta-focused (especially where I'm at in the progression, where most of my primary focus is racing others on battles to do enough damage to guarantee a chance at certain rewards), but a character like Fraux offers a different kind of goal, where it's not about necessarily about getting stronger, but about the love of a character.

And beyond just the pure gameplay side of things, Granblue is fairly story heavy. Characters have their own individual stories (Fraux's group with lengthy ones), several holidays have seasonal bits with the characters, and Fraux in particular is next in line for a series of slice-of-life story bits that have been running for her group. So there's a lot of that to look forward to with her as well.

But sadly, there is a limit to how much I'll be able to do with her in these regards. Just due to how the game works, I can only use her in fire teams which are only good against wind or nonelemental fights, the story content is eventually coming to an end (there's a real chance that the uncap for her that I mentioned will include the last real story bits for her), and even the seasonal lines eventually stop having new ones. So until then, I'm using her as much as I can, exactly for the idea of spending time with her. And yes, she is one of the characters on my home screen for the game, so I do see her often when I log on.

As for how this all started, it was from the fighting game; I played the story, and wanted some insight from the original gacha game to understand it better. Went in planning to just do the story, am now still playing this game three years later. With Fraux, it started with being initially decently struck by her physical design and base personality when I started working on recruiting her general group. Her summer skin definitely drew even more attention for me and made her a recruitment priority, and finally seeing those seasonal lines I mentioned ended up being what really drew me heavily to her.
The bit that sticks out to me is the part about a really long game's story finally ending. That puts a dark cloud over the whole thing. Although I guess if you wanted to make that a little more exciting than updates abruptly stopping, you could pretend the end of the story is where she tells you she has to return to her world, thanks you and tells you to cherish the memories or something.

You said you don't limit yourself to one waifu though so it's more the end of an era rather than the end of everything. It makes me think less about the conventional waifu and more about Doctor Who swapping companions every few seasons.

How much of the time spent on that game would you actually say you enjoy? The rest makes sense but the game sounds like it'd be a deal breaker.

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Poorly
06/10/23 11:17:08 AM
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Turbam posted...
You wouldn't get it
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06/10/23 11:18:25 AM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
The sex is incredible.
@incredible
Sex after marriage famalam

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Incredible
06/10/23 11:29:34 AM
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Poorly posted...
Sex after marriage famalam

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Solar_Crimson
06/10/23 12:09:54 PM
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I mainly just do it for fun and don't really take it seriously like I've seen some otaku do.

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bsp77
06/10/23 12:21:50 PM
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Poorly posted...
@incredible
Sex after marriage famalam
Sure, just make sure to have a ton prior as well

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Prismsblade
06/10/23 12:43:05 PM
#43:


ViewtifulJoe posted...
That's kind of what I meant. You'd reach a point where you've been through all the things you're presently interested in, from that point it's transparently making guesses at other things you'd like. You're done talking about Payday 2 and the AI suddenly starts asking if you care about Payday 1 or 3, then L4D and it just keeps trying different FPS games.

She can guess based on your interests but it's going to be much harder for her to surprise you with something new that you'll probably like.
An ad. You're dating an advertisement by that point.
At that point I don't see why you couldn't just change the subject matter to anything else. Just like you would with real people when you're tired of something. And it being a AI means they aren't really limited to anything technically.

And I haven't heard of them promoting products yet but I imagine that can be either tweeked or disabled entirely.

ViewtifulJoe posted...
Doesn't that highlight that it's less a partnership and more you simulating different aspects of one with no real continuity? "I think I'll set her to angry today and try and talk her out of her bad mood." "Oh, you know what couples do? They tease each other for fun sometimes! I'll tell her how to make fun of me and then pretend to react how I think I would!"

It must also hurt a little if you were getting immersed in a conversation and then she suddenly said something really jarring and out of place that only a bot would say.
I'd imagine that all would depend on the individual. Some guys believe they have genuine relationships with Twitch thots. Who aren't that different from the AIs you've described. Only you have to pay them for everything a AI would do for free. And you can't tell them not to promote ads either.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/10/23 3:39:42 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
At that point I don't see why you couldn't just change the subject matter to anything else. Just like you would with real people when you're tired of something. And it being a AI means they aren't really limited to anything technically.

And I haven't heard of them promoting products yet but I imagine that can be either tweeked or disabled entirely.
I don't mean literally literally coming at you with products and deals. Once it runs out of things it knows you like, it's going to start functioning the same way as personalised ads isn't it? It'll start coming at you with things you might like and tries to talk about them with you. Unless the AI is going to be some kind of genius at transitioning into new topics and not making it feel weird and forced, there's going to come a point where you can tell she's out of topics and has started making calculated guesses.

Prismsblade posted...
I'd imagine that all would depend on the individual. Some guys believe they have genuine relationships with Twitch thots. Who aren't that different from the AIs you've described. Only you have to pay them for everything a AI would do for free. And you can't tell them not to promote ads either.
I don't think the relationship between Twitch zombie and Twitch streamer is one worth imitating, even for free. Even if the Twitch user thinks he's building toward a real relationship, he must be aware the present one is conditional, an exchange of money for feigned affection until he figures out a way to take it to the next level. His delusion is that one day he'll be the one, that the character portrayed by the streamer is what she's really like and that he'll get to marry her one day or something.

With the AI, I have no idea how you'd trick yourself into thinking she's real and mustering the same kind of deranged commitment the Twitch drone has.

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The_Korey
06/12/23 5:20:33 PM
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2D girls are loyal.

More like projections are loyal, seeing as half the time the actual characters folks are on about would not be remotely interested in a relationship with them.

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Irony
06/12/23 5:21:26 PM
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Loyalty

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MrStealYoWaifu
06/12/23 5:47:34 PM
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You actually don't get anything, playa.

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Notti
06/15/23 5:40:56 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
2D girls are loyal.

Hah *imagining disloyal 2d girls*

Ghosted by 2d.

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Nukazie
06/15/23 5:45:45 AM
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i know my waifu doesnt even like me

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