Current Events > Hypothetical: You heroically save a lot of people but your dad takes the credit

(+) Yeah! (+)

You're walking along one day with your dad when suddenly there is a loud "FAALUUUFFFPPPH!" Noise.

The Earth shakes and the air gets hot until you realize there was a propane explosion in a nearby building which is now on fire.

You can hear a baby crying and a dog barking but can't see any other adults around.

In an uncharacteristic display of heroism you leap into action, entering the building to save the baby. Your dad just stands outside stammering like an Uvalde cop.

First you grab the baby, after which you see the parents unconscious on the floor. After handing the baby to your dad outside you go back in and drag the parents out.

At this time the barking Akita dog leads you to a room were some kids are groggy and barely moving. You start carrying them outside too as the flames get higher.

The dog keeps leading you to more victims so you tell your dad to call the fire department/ambulance while you rescue them.

By the time you've finished, you've saved over a dozen lives and are near passed out from the smoke and exhaustion, lying on the ground next to the victims to catch your breath.

At this moment a big black British man called Wesley points at your dad, seeing him standing over everyone while holding the baby and he goes "Hey! That dude just saved all those people!"

Pretty soon more people have turned up to the commotion and a crowd is forming. They're all clapping and applauding your dad.

When the firemen and paramedics arrive they praise your dad for his selfless heroism, saving all those lives and to your shock he takes all the credit.

Local news arrive and he does an interview about how much of a hero he is. The mayor announces she is going to give your dad a medal and the key to the city.

He's the one on record talking to the emergency services on the phone, he's the one the witnesses and victims mistakenly claim they saw save the day. And he's taken all the credit to bask in his new 15 minuted of fame so you have no evidence that it was really you.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/4/AAZiH8AAEkbs.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/5/AAZiH8AAEkbt.jpg

The only ones that know the truth are you and the dog. And that dog ain't talking anytime soon.

How do you react?
What do you do?

Time for some patricide.

Who cares, the people are safe. Taking credit means nothing.

Well, I subscribe to the Aristotle school of thought that a good deed isn't really such unless it's largely unnoticed/not done for fame or recognition.

That guy some years ago (I think 2014/2015?) in Houston with the random passerby who ran into a burning house, ran out with 2 people (I think 2 separate trips), and then just immediately dipped the fuck out before anybody could ask him who he was or get a good photo of him is a good example of this. He didn't save those people so he could be recognized for saving those people, he did it because he was spurned into doing a good deed. All Might would be proud.

If the person saving the people did so out of a genuinely good intentions, then it wouldn't bother them that their dad is taking the credit/fame for themselves, cause all they care about is that they did what was right.

Kradek posted...

Well, I subscribe to the Aristotle school of thought that a good deed isn't really such unless it's largely unnoticed/not done for fame or recognition.

Sounds like being a pushover to me

I wouldnt mind. My dad likes the spotlight and I dont need it

Kick him in the balls. Not for taking the credit, I definitely wouldn't save people. But because he deserves to get kicked in the balls repeatedly.

I kannot begin to explain how deeply disappointed and betrayed I am with Wesley. He's been such a based bro all these years. What happened?

BloodMoon7 posted...

Kick him in the balls. Not for taking the credit, I definitely wouldn't save people. But because he deserves to get kicked in the balls repeatedly.

You used to live in them

I just tell the news what happened and give credit to the dog. That side of the story is no doubt going to be taken at face value by the news, the dog gets his rightful credit as the hero, and since I'm on the news talking up the dog people will consider me the hero alongside him.

UnfairRepresent posted...

You used to live in them

All the more reason.

Im happy that they believe that my dead dad is a hero instead of question me why I was walking around with his corpse.

My dad is a good guy, so what?

If it were my mother I would throw a fit.

The_Korey posted...

I kannot begin to explain how deeply disappointed and betrayed I am with Wesley. He's been such a based bro all these years. What happened?

How did he betray you? He saw your dad standing over people blatantly pulled out of a fire and made an assumption

UnfairRepresent posted...

Sounds like being a pushover to me

Lol nah, it sullies the act of a good deed when you seek recognition or credit for it, because then it seems like you're only doing good deeds in order to be rewarded, even if that reward is just your friends/family/community telling you how good of a person you are. The thought is that the deed should be separate from any reward incentive.

Kradek posted...

Lol nah, it sullies the act of a good deed when you seek recognition or credit for it, because then it seems like you're only doing good deeds in order to be rewarded, even if that reward is just your friends/family/community telling you how good of a person you are. The thought is that the deed should be separate from any reward incentive.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/4/AAAgM2AAEkwU.jpg

That's fine. I hate being in the spotlight, so the fame would be a negative to me. Meanwhile, my dad has been feeling down due to problems with his memory. So the 15 seconds of fame would be a good pick me up for him. Works out nicely

Kradek posted...

Lol nah, it sullies the act of a good deed when you seek recognition or credit for it, because then it seems like you're only doing good deeds in order to be rewarded, even if that reward is just your friends/family/community telling you how good of a person you are. The thought is that the deed should be separate from any reward incentive.

Non sequitur

This really is just being a pushover.

IF someone is taking credit for your good works you're not being noble by letting them continue and you're not diminishing your works for pointing out what you did. That's incoherant

UnfairRepresent posted...

Non sequitur

This really is just being a pushover.

IF someone is taking credit for your good works you're not being noble by letting them continue and you're not diminishing your works for pointing out what you did. That's incoherant

Except part of the motivation from your perspective is clearly to make sure you're distinguished for being the hero everybody should be lauding. If you truly care about only the deed and not accepting credit like some self-absorbed asshole who needs public adulation, then doing the deed is enough regardless if you receive credit or not.

It's evident that doing a good deed isn't enough for you and that you need everyone around to tell you how good of a person you are.

Requiem posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/4/AAAgM2AAEkwU.jpg

What a really fucking stupid and shit-for-brains take meme that is the direct opposite of what I was talking about. I literally gave a real story of a dude who ran into a burning house, saved 2 people, and then peaced the fuck out before anybody could even ask him his name. And this is the shit-for-brains response you give me.

Man, shitposting really is all you're capable of doing.

I see you choose to be no better here than you were on the Politics board.

I'll be the one making the soup this time

Kradek posted...

Except part of the motivation from your perspective is clearly to make sure you're distinguished for being the hero everybody should be lauding. If you truly care about only the deed and not accepting credit like some self-absorbed asshole who needs public adulation, then doing the deed is enough regardless if you receive credit or not.

It's evident that doing a good deed isn't enough for you and that you need everyone around to tell you how good of a person you are.

Just repeating "You need people to tell you how good you are" doesn't make it true

It's a total non sequitur and especially daft in the scenario of someone taking credit for something they didn't do

UnfairRepresent posted...

Just repeating "You need people to tell you how good you are" doesn't make it true

It's a total non sequitur and especially daft in the scenario of someone taking credit for something they didn't do

You're the one whose ego can't stand someone else taking the credit and you not being hailed as a hero. As long as the people are saved why does it matter if that's what you actually care about? Oh, right, because you need everyone to know it was you and not your dad who actually saved those people.

Just saying "total non sequitur" doesn't mean anything either, btw. You're just throwing words out there with no meaning behind them.

Because guess what, it doesn't fucking matter if the person taking credit deserves it or not, the only person who actually cares is you. And since you and your dad are the only 2 who knows the truth, it's pretty damn clear that what's bothering you is that you're not the one getting the credit and adulation.

Kradek posted...

You're the one whose ego can't stand someone else taking the credit and you not being hailed as a hero. As long as the people are saved why does it matter if that's what you actually care about? Oh, right, because you need everyone to know it was you and not your dad who actually saved those people.

Because guess what, it doesn't fucking matter if the person taking credit deserves it or not, the only person who actually cares is you. And since you and your dad are the only 2 who knows the truth, it's pretty damn clear that what's bothering you is that you're not the one getting the credit and adulation.

I feel like Kradek commited Stolen Valor and is trying to justify it or something

Just saying "total non sequitur" doesn't mean anything either, btw. You're just throwing words out there with no meaning behind them.

non sequitur
noun
noun: non sequitur; plural noun: non sequiturs; noun: nonsequitur; plural noun: nonsequiturs

a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
"his weird mixed metaphors and non sequiturs"

"If you get credit for doing something good then that means you only did it for the credit and the good deed is sullied" is a pitch perfect example of that

"Gerrard can't keep eating sandwiches or he'll start being afraid of spiders."

UnfairRepresent posted...

I feel like Kradek commited Stolen Valor and is trying to justify it or something

I feel like you're just running your fucking mouth out your asshole.

UnfairRepresent posted...

non sequitur
noun
noun: non sequitur; plural noun: non sequiturs; noun: nonsequitur; plural noun: nonsequiturs

a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
"his weird mixed metaphors and non sequiturs"

"If you get credit for doing something good then that means you only did it for the credit and the good deed is sullied" is a pitch perfect example of that

"Gerrard can't keep eating sandwiches or he'll start being afraid of spiders."

Yes, I know the definition. The reason it seems to apply to you is you desperately care about the fact that someone else is claiming the credit when they shouldn't be. There's no reason to care about that unless it's because you want recognition for being the hero who saved the day. What's ultimately important is the people were saved, but you clearly care far more about receiving the credit over your dad.

Like I said, nobody cares and it doesn't affect anything at all except you're not the one getting the credit, which is why you care. Who does or doesn't receive credit ultimately doesn't matter, it only matters to you and your ego.

That's why I said you're just throwing it out there with nothing behind it.

Like, this entire time all you've done is call me a pushover and say non-sequitur, you haven't actually defended your position or why it's so important with me, you just keep insulting me and throwing a term out there that you think means "I win".

Clearly, all you care about is that the media and society is washing your daddy's balls and not yours. You've demonstrated nothing to the contrary.

Also, that sandwich-spider example was an absolute shit-for-brains take. That is an actual non-sequitur, though, congrats on finally getting it right.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I feel like Kradek commited Stolen Valor and is trying to justify it or something

Forgot to edit my post before the hour time limit, but just wanted to say how funny it is that you've been accusing me of non-sequitur's this whole time and then give this absolute gem of a non-sequitur, NON-SEQUITUR, NON-SEQUITUUUUUURRRRRRR (hope I did ya proud, I tried to model it after your energy).

Especially since my argument this entire time is that a good dead is measured by committing the deed for the sake of doing the good deed and nothing else, accusing me of stolen valor is big shit-for-brains energy right there.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I feel like Kradek commited Stolen Valor and is trying to justify it or something

I feel like you're just running your fucking mouth out your asshole.
Funny it is that you've been accusing me of non-sequitur's this whole time and then give this absolute gem of a non-sequitur, NON-SEQUITUR, NON-SEQUITUUUUUURRRRRRR (hope I did ya proud, I tried to model it after your energy).

Especially since my argument this entire time is that a good dead is measured by committing the deed for the sake of doing the good deed and nothing else, accusing me of stolen valor is big shit-for-brains energy right there.

UnfairRepresent posted...

"If you get credit for doing something good then that means you only did it for the credit and the good deed is sullied" is a pitch perfect example of that

"Gerrard can't keep eating sandwiches or he'll start being afraid of spiders."

Yes, I know the definition. The reason it seems to apply to you is you desperately care about the fact that someone else is claiming the credit when they shouldn't be. There's no reason to care about that unless it's because you want recognition for being the hero who saved the day. What's ultimately important is the people were saved, but you clearly care far more about receiving the credit over your dad.

Like I said, nobody cares and it doesn't affect anything at all except you're not the one getting the credit, which is why you care. Who does or doesn't receive credit ultimately doesn't matter, it only matters to you and your ego.

That's why I said you're just throwing it out there with nothing behind it.

Like, this entire time all you've done is call me a pushover and say non-sequitur, you haven't actually defended your position or why it's so important with me, you just keep insulting me and throwing a term out there that you think means "I win".

Clearly, all you care about is that the media and society is washing your daddy's balls and not yours. You've demonstrated nothing to the contrary.

Also, that sandwich-spider example was an absolute shit-for-brains take. That is an actual non-sequitur, though, congrats on finally getting it right.

Kradek posted...

The reason it seems to apply to you is you desperately care about the fact that someone else is claiming the credit when they shouldn't be. There's no reason to care about that unless it's because you want recognition for being the hero who saved the day.

1. This simply isn't true.
2. Wanting recgonition for what you did doesn't mean it's the reason you did something.

"If someone tkaes credit for your work then you need to just be quiet and accept it or else it wasn't really a good work." is just being a complete pushover and not standing up for yourse.f

lol TC is mad that CEmen don't want the glory

I think you're projecting. I've expressed no opinion on what you should do.

Only opinion I've expressed is that "If you don't let people walk over you and lie then your good deeds don't matter" is just being a wimp IMO.

And I doubt you'll find many men who disagree with me. Especially if you talk to some soldiers.