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Will_VIIII
06/18/23 5:44:14 PM
#51:


Tom_Joad posted...
I remember getting my bills in the mail (postal mail). It was nice only having to pay my bills in the span of an hour after getting home from work.

With email billing, companies send you your bills at any damn time they please. You'll crawl into bed at 2300 and read an ebook for a bit...

...only to find that at 0023 in the morning, you just received your credit card bill.

And now you have the choice of paying it right then and there... or trying to get to sleep knowing that you need to take care of it the following day.

(I know that I can't fall asleep knowing I owe money.)
Opt out of that then

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AndreLeGeant
06/18/23 7:38:36 PM
#52:


Funkydog posted...
I mean, I can legally get married now for one, compared to this 'perfect time' boomers yearn for.

Social media is a blight, no doubt, but so much other good has come from the 'internet age'
I don't see how you're connecting that to the rise of 24/7 internet considering that many places were legalizing same-sex marriage before the iPhone existed

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jayj350
06/18/23 7:39:31 PM
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Smartphones ruined society.

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AndreLeGeant
06/18/23 7:42:24 PM
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CRON posted...
The internet and cell phones aren't the issue. Unregulated social media and too many Americans having zero media literacy are the bigger problem and I think it's an instance of not being able to close Pandora's Box, especially in the years that came after smartphones and residential broadband internet access becoming affordable.

Before the advent of affordable smartphones, most Americans, even dumb ones, had some semblance of media literacy and were able to easily circumnavigate around stupid shit on the web, or at least be able to take it for what it is. Nowadays you have massive swaths of Americans who don't understand the concepts of clickbait, misinformation, astroturfing and predatory advertising/media practices and give absolutely no fucks because they just want to be able to see content 24/7.
Are you saying that the vast number of teenagers suffering a record level of depression and anxiety simply lack media literacy? I don't think that's the issue. Being plugged in 24/7 to what are ultimately fictitious social circles is simply not compatible with how our brains have evolved to function.

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bigtiggie23
06/18/23 7:44:17 PM
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Imagine today if the only way to decide if you wanted a new game was reading a two paragraph review in a magazine.

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Oh_Boy_
06/18/23 7:47:23 PM
#57:


AndreLeGeant posted...
Are you saying that the vast number of teenagers suffering a record level of depression and anxiety simply lack media literacy? I don't think that's the issue. Being plugged in 24/7 to what are ultimately fictitious social circles is simply not compatible with how our brains have evolved to function.

lol.
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boomgetchopped3
06/18/23 7:52:50 PM
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My entire livelihood depends on the internet but I would totally abolish it if I could. Phones and all. Dial up only maybe. Its similar to my gun views. Abolish all guns except for like muskets. Muskets = dial up in this metaphor ok?
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AndreLeGeant
06/18/23 7:52:51 PM
#59:


bigtiggie23 posted...
Imagine today if the only way to decide if you wanted a new game was reading a two paragraph review in a magazine.
Most people would just rent the game and then play it for themselves as opposed to watching other people play it while engaging in a parasocial relationship with the streamer.

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Solar_Crimson
06/18/23 7:53:41 PM
#60:


ZannoL posted...
I think its so easy to look back with rose-tinted glasses.

But reality is, tech has improved life in so many ways.

Not saying that there are zero downsides to modern life, but the pros outweighs the cons.


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Hayame_Zero
06/18/23 7:54:20 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
The internet is a grand, great thing, and people don't know what true power they have today. I prefer knowing about the atrocities of the world rather than it all being kept from us.

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Oh_Boy_
06/18/23 8:00:58 PM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
My entire livelihood depends on the internet but I would totally abolish it if I could. Phones and all. Dial up only maybe. Its similar to my gun views. Abolish all guns except for like muskets. Muskets = dial up in this metaphor ok?


People who want to go back to the dark ages seem to be those with no self control and those who cannot raise children. Not sure how Im the fuck not having a phone or internet prevents or solves either issue as both types have likely been around since the beginning of the genus homo no doubt.
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BloodMoon7
06/18/23 8:02:42 PM
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I want the opposite. Plug my consciousness directly into a porn site fam.

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itachi15243
06/18/23 8:10:56 PM
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I do kinda wish we could atleast go back to a time where cell phones and even smartphones were a thing but people actually talked to eachother

But people should have the will to get off their phone and do that themselves. The will to stop spending so much time on the internet and go talk to family, friends, and even strangers in person. Technology helps us so much and has made life so much better but people still need to actually get used to imo. It's like we're all addicted and need to find the right right distance imo.

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boomgetchopped3
06/18/23 8:15:45 PM
#66:


Oh_Boy_ posted...
People who want to go back to the dark ages seem to be those with no self control and those who cannot raise children. Not sure how Im the fuck not having a phone or internet prevents or solves either issue as both types have likely been around since the beginning of the genus homo no doubt.

I dont consider the time before internet as the dark ages.
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ImagineUsngAlts
06/18/23 9:47:08 PM
#67:


boomgetchopped3 posted...
My entire livelihood depends on the internet but I would totally abolish it if I could. Phones and all. Dial up only maybe. Its similar to my gun views. Abolish all guns except for like muskets. Muskets = dial up in this metaphor ok?

Yeah, let's also abolish medicine except like natural herbs or something and have the human body fight off diseases naturally. If it can't tough luck, that's weeding the wheat from the chaff, that's how nature and evolution was intended amirite?

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boomgetchopped3
06/19/23 2:21:29 AM
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ImagineUsngAlts posted...
Yeah, let's also abolish medicine except like natural herbs or something and have the human body fight off diseases naturally. If it can't tough luck, that's weeding the wheat from the chaff, that's how nature and evolution was intended amirite?

I dont agree

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ultimate_reaver
06/19/23 2:40:43 AM
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Sometimes I dont blame them.

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Questionmarktarius
06/19/23 2:44:28 AM
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So what, then, VHS porn?
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mach25687
06/19/23 2:47:24 AM
#72:


TMOG posted...
How about we keep the internet and cellphones but Thanos Snap social media away?


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YellowSUV
06/19/23 2:56:10 AM
#73:


I blame smartphones. I was in college around circa 2010, the perfect timing for the transition of the old world to the smartphone world. When I started college you would hang out with friends without the Internet intruding. It was pure "living in the moment" you could say. By the time I graduated you could tell the Internet seeped into life and all gatherings and a lot of people were always glued to their smartphones.

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Zikten
06/19/23 3:04:33 AM
#74:


I definitely would not want to go back. The internet is great, especially for someone with social disabilities. But also for ease of access to all kinds of content.

I was fine without it before I knew what it was like. But it's one of those things where once you have it, you never want to not have it again
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MrDrMan
06/19/23 4:10:58 AM
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People just need to learn to regulate. Social media is a joke. Its not to be taken seriously. I dont fault technology for people that are obsessed with Instagram. Just log off.

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Tom_Joad
06/19/23 4:22:02 AM
#76:


Will_VIIII posted...
Opt out of that then

The problem with that is it's an all or nothing approach. And you have add exceptions, which is useless, as you can't think of every single reason/event/person that could qualify.

It'd be useful if you could, with each email, choose the hours you want to receive it.

Friends and family? Anytime.
Work? During work hours.
Bills? At exactly the end of the work day.

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Glob
06/19/23 4:26:12 AM
#77:


I would not want to give up the ability to summon transport almost immediately without having to make a phone call. Nor would I want to give up the ability to do something similar with food.
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HANGtheDJ_86
06/19/23 4:52:59 AM
#78:


Some of y'all must be smokin' on pessimism in freebase form

There is a whole lotta good too on this wild ass ride of an experiment that we call the internet

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Bigpapaplut
06/19/23 6:14:26 AM
#79:


TMOG posted...
How about we keep the internet and cellphones but Thanos Snap social media away?


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majin_nemesis
06/19/23 7:11:52 AM
#80:


Of course the US always wants to be a backwards country
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hockeybub89
06/19/23 7:35:53 AM
#81:


I want to return to a time when greed hadn't yet ruined the Internet

But no Internet, no phones, no new tech? Fuck that Luddite shit.


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TonyKojima
06/19/23 7:40:46 AM
#82:


Will_VIIII posted...
Sounds like it's mostly older gen Xers who need to get with the times


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Barber102
06/19/23 8:32:12 AM
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What the majority of these americans really mean is they want to live without social media. Cellphones and the internet are not the real issue.

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Goldice
06/19/23 9:07:25 AM
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"Majority of Americans want to return to better past time that never actually existed"

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boomgetchopped3
06/19/23 9:09:48 AM
#85:


Barber102 posted...
What the majority of these americans really mean is they want to live without social media. Cellphones and the internet are not the real issue.

Exactly most responses are completely rhetorical. They are simply making a statement against the current state of tech rather than literally believing were better off without it.
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ShaneMcComez
06/19/23 9:13:07 AM
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In regards to that poll. Probably a significant number of them want to return to a time before those tech were around, while still getting their daily dosage of fearmongering and propaganda news shoved down their throats via from the TV and the radio.

Seriously, the good old days the older generations like to talk about when they were younger. Whether it's the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, and beyond. We tend to look back in time with fond memories, remembering the good times and experiences we've had. But if we magically went back in time to relive that era, it wouldn't take us long to remember the stuff that sucked back then and is lacking of compared to nowadays.

I'd bet $100 that if 70% of respondents got their wish and were sent back in time to their desired time period of their youth. It would only take a month for the vast majority of them to regret their decision and choose to come back to the present.

Barber102 posted...
What the majority of these americans really mean is they want to live without social media. Cellphones and the internet are not the real issue.
Your probably right about that. I do view social media as the #1 problem on the totem pole of new tech coming out over the years.
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Avirosb
06/19/23 9:18:47 AM
#87:


Questionmarktarius posted...
So what, then, VHS porn?

Humans tend to look really shitty in high def

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AndreLeGeant
06/19/23 12:08:48 PM
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I didn't say it did. The point made was that you could only know if you'd like a game by looking at a magazine. Now that hasn't been true since well before the smartphone or social media. But even if it were true, you'd also just ask your friends or rent the thing yourself.

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AndreLeGeant
06/19/23 12:10:02 PM
#89:


YellowSUV posted...
I blame smartphones. I was in college around circa 2010, the perfect timing for the transition of the old world to the smartphone world. When I started college you would hang out with friends without the Internet intruding. It was pure "living in the moment" you could say. By the time I graduated you could tell the Internet seeped into life and all gatherings and a lot of people were always glued to their smartphones.
This is what I was saying. It wasn't the Internet that's to blame. It was the smartphone. Until the smartphone, people unplugged.

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Goldice
06/19/23 12:24:58 PM
#90:


ShaneMcComez posted...
I'd bet $100 that if 70% of respondents got their wish and were sent back in time to their desired time period of their youth. It would only take a month for the vast majority of them to regret their decision and choose to come back to the present.

A good amount of early twenty somethings would have to learn what its like to be bored. As in actually have nothing to do.

They would not like it.

I would also not like going back to the old methods of paying bills and balancing checkbooks. Or researching topics. Or figuring out directions. Or being unable to communicate while in transit.

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AndreLeGeant
06/19/23 12:36:38 PM
#91:


Goldice posted...
As in actually have nothing to do.

They would not like it.

I would also not like going back to the old methods of paying bills and balancing checkbooks. Or researching topics. Or figuring out directions. Or being unable to communicate while in transit.
Studies show that boredom is key to creativity, and the fact we aren't bored anymore is actually bad for mental health. We evolved to be bored. Losing boredom makes us more passive thinkers.

Online bill payments don't require 24/7 internet or smartphones. Ditto researching topics. I'm confused why you thinking the alternative to being always plugged in is the 1980s. This didn't start till 2009

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Cemith
06/19/23 12:45:26 PM
#92:


TMOG posted...
How about we keep the internet and cellphones but Thanos Snap social media away?


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MrDrMan
06/19/23 2:15:11 PM
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Its literally as simple as learning self control. There are entire communities that dont use modern technology.

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PiOverlord
06/19/23 2:33:29 PM
#94:


Wtf is the point of all of this if we're not going to keep progressing? We have done so many terrible things as a species, progression is our only path to potential redemption.

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DuuuDe14
06/19/23 2:36:44 PM
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Social media needs to go. It's cancer.

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wesastro911
06/19/23 2:45:36 PM
#96:


A big hell no.

Remote work
Online dating
Availability of music and games
Online shopping
Paying online bills
Online gaming
Availability of knowledge
Ehem adult videos

For nerdy introverts who have a hard time dealing in public and love learning, no internet would be going back to the Stone Age.
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HylianFox
06/19/23 2:55:09 PM
#97:


Goldice posted...
"Majority of Americans want to return to better past time that never actually existed"

umm... pretty sure there was a time not too long ago where the internet did not exist.

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HylianFox
06/19/23 2:55:39 PM
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Funkydog
06/19/23 3:27:54 PM
#99:


HylianFox posted...
umm... pretty sure there was a time not too long ago where the internet did not exist.
It wasn't better is the point. We just suffered in different ways.

And had less rights.

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DKBananaSlamma
06/19/23 3:33:00 PM
#100:


TMOG posted...
How about we keep the internet and cellphones but Thanos Snap social media away?
This is the right answer. Internet and cellphones are great, but social media is the real cancer here

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