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Will_VIIII
06/19/23 4:15:09 PM
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https://gamerant.com/chrono-trigger-switch-remake/

Cautious optimism.

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Irony
06/19/23 4:15:40 PM
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Raikuro
06/19/23 4:16:39 PM
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Another one?
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SomeLikeItHoth
06/19/23 4:16:42 PM
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All those old school jrpgs should get the HD 2D remake treatment.

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CRON
06/19/23 4:17:51 PM
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I'm more interested in the new 2D Mario game

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Solar_Crimson
06/19/23 4:18:06 PM
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Hopefully it's a remake of the DS version, not the SNES version.

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Will_VIIII
06/19/23 4:18:29 PM
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Supposedly the same leaker who leaked other remasters and etc that came to be

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TonyKojima
06/19/23 4:19:17 PM
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If its like the SoM remake I'll be happy.

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TomClark
06/19/23 4:19:59 PM
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Where. The. FUCK. Is. DQ3 2DHD?

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Crimsoness
06/19/23 4:24:00 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Hopefully it's a remake of the DS version, not the SNES version.
No

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Will_VIIII
06/19/23 4:24:40 PM
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I'd prefer the NDS version because all of the new content was optional and could simply be skipped if you weren't interested in it.

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Pikachuchupika
06/19/23 4:26:02 PM
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https://youtu.be/-1LDIPBWjtU

Let's gooooooo
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LightHawKnight
06/19/23 4:31:09 PM
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TomClark posted...
Where. The. FUCK. Is. DQ3 2DHD?


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ZaruenKosai
06/19/23 4:32:45 PM
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still waiting for muh suikoden remaster

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ModernPost
06/19/23 4:35:09 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
https://youtu.be/-1LDIPBWjtU

Let's gooooooo
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Winterking
06/19/23 4:39:14 PM
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What if DQ3 was delayed to get CT out the door?

Be a weird choice (lead with the most popular title to whet the general appetite for the form?), and I'm suspicious, but that'll be an easy buy for me if true.
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TomClark
06/19/23 4:40:36 PM
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Winterking posted...
What if DQ3 was delayed to get CT out the door?

I would somehow be both insanely hyped by the news and legitimately furious at the same time, haha.

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Solar_Crimson
06/19/23 4:46:03 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
No
Why?

Will_VIIII posted...
I'd prefer the NDS version because all of the new content was optional and could simply be skipped if you weren't interested in it.
Exactly.

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Irony
06/19/23 5:20:14 PM
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The new content and the retranslation sucks

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TMOG
06/19/23 5:22:14 PM
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Fuck yeah, this is exactly what I wanted

This better not be fake
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Will_VIIII
06/19/23 5:24:18 PM
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Irony posted...
The new content and the retranslation sucks
I replay the game every couple of years and the SNES translation took some liberties.

A character literally says "Houston we have lift off" and I think there were a couple other localized lines in this vein.

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Ivynn
06/19/23 5:25:38 PM
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Hell yeah if true

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_Stuff_
06/19/23 5:26:13 PM
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There were a lot of liberties taken. Way way more than a couple. Ted Woolsey, look him up, for real. But the original script wasn't nearly as funny.
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SocialistGamer
06/19/23 5:26:15 PM
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Zippo is not a reliable leaker btw.

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kirbymuncher
06/19/23 5:26:35 PM
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doesn't it already have one of these

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Ivynn
06/19/23 5:27:05 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
I replay the game every couple of years and the SNES translation took some liberties.

A character literally says "Houston we have lift off" and I think there were a couple other localized lines in this vein.

The original SNES translation had charm. Retranslation was boring.

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Will_VIIII
06/19/23 5:28:49 PM
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Ivynn posted...
The original SNES translation had charm. Retranslation was boring.
I love me some nostalgia but that's what that is

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Tsukasa1891
06/19/23 5:29:13 PM
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Not surprising. Anything that sold well gets remade or remastered these days.

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_Stuff_
06/19/23 5:29:41 PM
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Ivynn posted...
The original SNES translation had charm. Retranslation was boring.
A less directly faithful but spirited translation can keep the spirit of the game better than a by the numbers translation a machine can give you.

Translation is an art. Words are chosen in writing not just for meaning but for subtext, style, artistry. Frequently a slight change can keep the art better than the exact word in English which isn't as interesting of a choice.

Also sometimes the translator has something untranslatable they have to make a judgement call on, and Woolsey was fun as hell. You're 100% spot on.
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Carljank
06/19/23 5:30:04 PM
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I wouldn't have minded seeing a Trials of Mana style 3D remake but 2D is good too.

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VeggetaX
06/19/23 5:35:32 PM
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I personally want a sequel to the Chrono series after CC but a remake for CT is good too

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Tsukasa1891
06/19/23 5:42:23 PM
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_Stuff_ posted...
A less directly faithful but spirited translation can keep the spirit of the game better than a by the numbers translation a machine can give you.

Translation is an art. Words are chosen in writing not just for meaning but for subtext, style, artistry. Frequently a slight change can keep the art better than the exact word in English which isn't as interesting of a choice.

Also sometimes the translator has something untranslatable they have to make a judgement call on, and Woolsey was fun as hell. You're 100% spot on.
Yep. Son of a sand worm just doesn't hold the same charm as son of a submariner.

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--Zero-
06/19/23 5:46:06 PM
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2D.dont want. I want a 2D sequel or a full 3D remake. The SNES graphics and even the remaster on PC still hold up.

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Carljank
06/19/23 5:48:00 PM
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--Zero- posted...
2D.dont want. I want a 2D sequel or a full 3D remake. The SNES graphics and even the remaster on PC still hold up.
Trials of Mana was a good 3D remake because it stayed very faithful to the original. I would never want them to give it the FF7R treatment.

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BignutzisBack
06/19/23 5:49:04 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Hopefully it's a remake of the DS version, not the SNES version.

@Error1355 I know it's frowned upon to tag mods but you should seriously considering suspending this poster

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Will_VIIII
06/19/23 5:49:10 PM
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A trials of mana style remake would have been a good option as well

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Super_Slash
06/19/23 5:50:56 PM
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I googled this leaker and I can't tell what his track record is. How accurate has he been in the past? I want to get excited but this could easily be fake.

Also, my username came from this game.
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TomClark
06/19/23 5:55:00 PM
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Super_Slash posted...
I googled this leaker and I can't tell what his track record is. How accurate has he been in the past? I want to get excited but this could easily be fake.

He's... not really that great. He tends to just grab every other rumour going and bundle them into his own "leak" - although he does tend to grab some accurate rumours in with all the dross, so there's often a chance that his stuff is true (even though he personally has no real credibility or insider knowledge).

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Tsukasa1891
06/19/23 5:59:40 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
doesn't it already have one of these
There was one for the DS. You're probably thinking of the Chrono Cross remaster.

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Justin2Krelian
06/19/23 6:08:32 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
I love me some nostalgia but that's what that is

Frog having a Medieval accent gives the SNES translation the win. Even if it makes no sense since no one else from the era does.

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Solar_Crimson
06/19/23 6:12:20 PM
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Why do so many people dislike the DS version? I thought it was agreed that having extra content can't be anything but a better deal.

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Super_Slash
06/19/23 6:16:58 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Why do so many people dislike the DS version? I thought it was agreed that having extra content can't be anything but a better deal.
Lost Sanctum is hot garbage and the Dimensional Vortex was sloppily thrown together. But the new final boss is cool. Most people also hate the DS script in comparison to the SNES, but I feel like a lot of those people are just purists. The Chrono fandom is wild.
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kirbymuncher
06/19/23 6:21:34 PM
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_Stuff_ posted...
Translation is an art. Words are chosen in writing not just for meaning but for subtext, style, artistry. Frequently a slight change can keep the art better than the exact word in English which isn't as interesting of a choice.
I agree with some of the general sentiment here but also woolsey just straight up mistranslates a surprising amount of stuff. working on the flow and coolness of the text should definitely come after you make sure it has correct meaning

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solosnake
06/19/23 6:24:20 PM
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dude, i thought the topic said announced at first, got my hopes up so high

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Kuuko
06/19/23 6:26:05 PM
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Super_Slash posted...
Lost Sanctum is hot garbage and the Dimensional Vortex was sloppily thrown together. But the new final boss is cool. Most people also hate the DS script in comparison to the SNES, but I feel like a lot of those people are just purists. The Chrono fandom is wild.
Preferring the SNES translation is 100% just purists not liking something different. You can read interviews with Woolsey where he talks about how his translations were super rushed due to time commitments, he had to just guess who was talking in some scenes because none of the text was organized, and he was super super limited by data constraints on the cartridge itself and so constantly had to cut dialogue as short as possible knowing that it'd sometimes lose some of the meaning. I don't think the DS translator had to deal with as much of that at all - and the DS translator talks about how he changed some other things that never made a lot of sense in the SNES version like how Frog talks in Ye Olde English, presumably because he's from the Middle Ages, but every other character in the Middle Ages speaks in Modern English. So Frog is just a weirdo.

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KFHEWUI
06/19/23 6:28:48 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/8/AAKYEFAAElSw.jpg

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Hayame_Zero
06/19/23 6:28:54 PM
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I really never thought Ted Woolsey's translations are that bad. Hell, Secret of Mana had to be completely localized in just two weeks after release in Japan.

Compare his stuff to something like Breath of Fire 2. It's fine.

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Solar_Crimson
06/19/23 6:31:22 PM
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I believe Woolsey was over the Super Mario RPG localization as well, and that game also had some weird stuff in it. Many of the established Mario enemies didn't have their correct names, the Koopa Shell weapon still had its Japanese terminology, and the spell in which a fireball is shot at the target was for some reason called "Drain".

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