Board 8 > Titan submersible debris found, "catastrophic implosion" likely

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65991651

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/missing-submarine-titan-oceangate-expeditions-latest-debris-field/

BOSTON Debris found near the Titanic on Thursday indicates the missing submersible that was on a voyage to explore the wreckage suffered a "catastrophic implosion," the Coast Guard said, killing all five people on board.

A remote operated vehicle (ROV) found five major pieces of debris from the submersible about 1,600 feet from the bow of the Titanic, the Coast Guard said.

Well, that's that I guess.

That's a bad way to go.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

That's a bad way to go.

probably better than the alternative scenario where they didnt implode and were just trapped down there slowly running out of oxygen

this way is so sudden they dont even feel it theoretically

Lil_Bit83 posted...

That's a bad way to go.

They likely died instantaneously, so it's better than the looming nightmare of dying slowly due to oxygen deprivation.

Still a horrible situation regardless though.

At that depth it was instantaneous. Literally one millisecond everything is perfectly fine and then the next you are completely obliterated from consciousness and existence. They didn't suffer for even one moment. Of the ways this was gonna go, it's obviously the best.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

That's a bad way to go.

They would have been killed instantly, probably before they had a chance to know anything was even wrong.

Sadly, this wasn't a surprising outcome as we started learning more and more about how shoddily it was made.

To put it in perspective, this is an implosion of 1 psi of pressure. They would be under 375 psi of pressure, so it's just beyond instantaneous and absolutely certain there is no suffering.

https://twitter.com/salumc/status/1671971817119170560?t=VrWvFGlGrE4ioA58VhxBkA&s=19

I think everyone already figured they were dead by this point. Tragic loss of life, but sounds like none of them suffered before dying at least. Definitely preferable over slowly running out of oxygen and just wondering when youre gonna die

LeonhartFour posted...

Sadly, this wasn't a surprising outcome as we started learning more and more about how shoddily it was made.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TerrifyingAsFuck/comments/14g2cy5/

This is an absolute mercy compared to the scenario they would have faced otherwise up to the hypothetical oxygen cutoff today. Still a tragedy, albeit an incredibly avoidable and remarkably stupid one.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

To put it in perspective, this is an implosion of 1 psi of pressure. They would be under 375 psi of pressure, so it's just beyond instantaneous and absolutely certain there is no suffering.

https://twitter.com/salumc/status/1671971817119170560?t=VrWvFGlGrE4ioA58VhxBkA&s=19

Atmospheres, not psi. You can see the conversion in the tweet, 1 atm is 14.696 psi.

The scale between the vid's example and the Titan is still the same, though.

KamikazePotato posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/TerrifyingAsFuck/comments/14g2cy5/

Imagine being such a penny pincher and so divorced from reality that you think the laws of nature don't apply to you. We're incredibly rich and privileged in this time period, but carelessness in the face of danger will still get you killed.

Needlessly tragic and avoidable deaths all because that jackass thought his bank account made him invincible. Hopefully he'll always be remembered for this catastrophe.

kevwaffles posted...

Atmospheres, not psi. You can see the conversion in the tweet, 1 atm is 14.696 psi.

The scale between the vid's example and the Titan is still the same, though.

My bad, thanks for the clarification. I'm not a physics guy. lol

And it didn't even have windows.... they would have been seeing everything from a screen just like if they were on the surface.

I just don't understand the "why" here.

https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1671971690920681502

Obellisk posted...

And it didn't even have windows.... they would have been seeing everything from a screen just like if they were on the surface.

I just don't understand the "why" here.

It had a window on the front. I don't know why this particular bit of misinformation has spread so much.

Dark_Young_Link posted...

Needlessly tragic and avoidable deaths all because that jackass thought his bank account made him invincible. Hopefully he'll always be remembered for this catastrophe.

All the people on the sub likely thought their bank accounts made them invincible. Zero shits given.

kevwaffles posted...

It had a window on the front. I don't know why this particular bit of misinformation has spread so much.

And it was right next to the toilet??

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/6/9/AABtbFAAEmG9.jpg

Leafeon13N posted...

All the people on the sub likely thought their bank accounts made them invincible. Zero shits given.

Paul-Henri Nargeolet (77), a former French Navy commander, diver, submersible pilot, member of the French Institute for Research and Exploitation of the Sea,[36][39] and director of underwater research for E/M Group and RMS Titanic, Inc.,[114] which owns salvage rights to the wreckage site.[115] Nargeolet led more than 35 expeditions to the wreck,[116] supervised the recovery of thousands of artifacts, and was "widely considered the leading authority on the wreck site".[114]

I was under the impression that this guy was there because he was a professional expert on diving and shipwrecks and not because he was an "eccentric billionaire" going down there just for fun, and therefore shouldn't be stereotyped along with the other 4 people who died.

Also another one was a 19 year old who reportedly didnt even want to go and just went for Fathers Day. Have a little empathy here.

I feel sad for the 19 year old but not for the pilot; he has an obligation to ensure the safety of the vessel and the safety of the mission for the sake of the people in his care. I do not feel sympathy for people who go into the ocean ill-prepared when it is their responsibility to be prepared and die as a result. That's just the rules of the ocean.

Honestly, after hearing how glowingly James Cameron spoke of the diver, I'm shocked that he willingly got on this thing. He seemed like a guy who should've known better.

LightningStrikes posted...

Also another one was a 19 year old who reportedly didnt even want to go and just went for Fathers Day. Have a little empathy here.

I want to feel bad but i tend to end up thinking when that much money is involved we probably aren't getting the whole story(i would say even odds all his apparent love is just to protect an inheritance).

When you grow up that rich you are probably so privileged that i have little enpathy for you regardless or circumstance.

Not to the point i celebrate your death but to the point i feel little in regards to a tragic passing.

A lot of projection going on here

It's fine if you don't feel bad, you don't need to justify not feeling bad

Mewtwo59 posted...

Honestly, after hearing how glowingly James Cameron spoke of the diver, I'm shocked that he willingly got on this thing. He seemed like a guy who should've known better.

I'm very curious what happened here. His background suggests that he knew what he was doing. But, he looked at that game controller and said he was doing it anyways.

Was this the diver's first trip on this sub, or was he a regular crew member on it?