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That was a shame.

I could have tolerated it if it was still 3vs3, too bad

People were mostly mad there were no X-Men but I say blame it more on Disney as they prolly didn't want Capcom to use them for the game.

Raikuro posted...

I could have tolerated it if it was still 3vs3, too bad

That first trailer set off so many alarms.

I'm watching an MVC3 vs MVCI super move comparison video and it's really making MVCI look awful.

Goat game

VeggetaX posted...

People were mostly mad there were no X-Men but I say blame it more on Disney as they prolly didn't want Capcom to use them for the game.

I don't know myself but I remember my step father bitching Marvel was trying to undermine and kill the popularity of the x men in comics just cause they didnr have the movie rights.

PokemonExpert44 posted...

Goat game

Not sure even the goats would consume it for nutrition.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

I don't know myself but I remember my step father bitching Marvel was trying to undermine and kill the popularity of the x men in comics just cause they didnr have the movie rights.

I've heard this speculation before as well.

I remember
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/1/AAaaLFAADTTx.jpg

The music is worth a listen.
The Marvel side had their previous themes axed and replaced with generic orchestra, Capcom got worse versions of their themes.

Fun to play for the few hours that I put into it. Infinity Eggs. Some ugly character models. A very mid character season pass. Less fun to watch than UMvC3. Yeah I 'member

Even when she looks like a crackhead, Morrigan is fine as hell

I forgot about the pre-order infinity eggs. That was really funny.

To balance it out though, you know what I didn't forget?
F U N C T I O N

I don't even mind it being 2v2, but If they just waited like a year, the roster problems would have been a non-issue.

I blame Disney for that, but tbh, the Capcom side wasn't impressive either. Mostly reused from MvC3 with no Phoenix Wright.

Only thing nice I can really say about it is that Monster Hunter looked cool, but she wasn't even part of the base roster.

I'm surprised they haven't done a Skullgirls type thing where you pick between 1,2,or 3 characters

And that asymmetrical DLC. Far too few people bring that up.

Capcom DLC
-Sigma (This is cool. Big Sig at long last. Took a monkey paw wish but he finally made it in.)
-Monster Hunter (Monster Hunter from Monster Hunter. Lacking personality even by MVCI standards.)

Marvel DLC
-Venom (Okay but what did they do to his voice?)
-The Winter Soldier (It's a guy named The Winter Soldier who talks a lot during his supers.)
-Black Widow (Fun Fact, despite being added after launch, she has Chun Li's voice. Chun Li was forced to get another voice for this game.)
-Black Panther (Oh right these used to have Wolverine, didn't they?)

Still mad they wasted X's MvC debut on that mess of a game.

Dead on Arrival

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I forgot about the pre-order infinity eggs. That was really funny.

To balance it out though, you know what I didn't forget?
F U N C T I O N

This.
"People don't play a Marvel game to play the characters."

the game bombed to the max

Just remaking MvC3 with rebalancing and the story mide the original alluded to would have been infinitely better then that garbage.

This game wasn't garbage

Something I still find funny is how they talk non-stop during the supers but the dialogue is the most nothing-dialogue possible.

Dr Strange got it pretty bad for example. In UMVC3, for his level 3 he's calling out the names of the techniques he's using. In MVCI it's been dumbed down to "I unleash the secret magic! I am Doctor Strange, the sorcerer supreme!"

Imagine any UMVC3 super, make it less flashy then imagine the character yelling "Hey, let's get this party started! Quit wasting my time! You'll feel this in the morning! And that's why I'm the best!" over it and you've got yourself an MVCI super.

So, Megaman X cant charge specials or charge while moving or blocking, ohhhh but Zero can.

And Dante is still the best character in the game by a large margin, despite the most massive giga nerf I've ever seen in my life.

Also, the best move in the game by far is just TAG. It's a mixup tool with a massive hitbox with oftentimes several seconds of hitstun that is only vaguely punishable by throws from specific ranges.

I love the game, I think 2v2 with fast tags is far more creative and destroys 3v3, and I couldnt care less about Xmen when we're getting Thanos, Captain Marvel, a perfect Ultron, Jedah, and X, buttttttt they fucked up some core gameplay stuff in a way that doesnt stop being annoying after a few thousand hours.

The DMC reboot costume for Dante was the cherry on top.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

The DMC reboot costume for Dante was the cherry on top.

My crackpot theory is that it was always supposed to be reboot Dante. Mostly because Dante doesn't act like his usual self, he's a huge asshole in the story mode.

Game was fun, shame they had to horribly mismanage it the way they did and kill it so soon

Oh, you mean:Reality Stone...Reality Stone....Reality Stone.....Reality Stone

A shame, because I did like some of the new characters: Gamora, Jedah, X, Sigma, Monster Hunter, and I appreciated having Venom back.

However, I wouldn't mind seeing a MvC4 after seeing how well SF6 worked out. Not likely, but it'd be great to see. Though personally, I'd rather have the SF6 team work on a possible Capcom vs SNK 3.

Turbam posted...

My crackpot theory is that it was always supposed to be reboot Dante. Mostly because Dante doesn't act like his usual self, he's a huge asshole in the story mode.

That would have been incredible.
It actually happened to PS All Stars too so you know they were out to push the character.

I also remember Reuben Langdon saying he got no voice direction though so maybe whoever was in charge of writing or voice direction just had no idea what was happening.

man i remember Max Dood hyping this game up fierce...

he's is still bitter it failed all these years later...

ViewtifulJoe posted...

The DMC reboot costume for Dante was the cherry on top.

And his face was less fucked up.

It's like they did it on purpose to try and prove the new version is better.

The story mode has a cliffhanger ending.
There's a fun observation.

I do... Never finished the story mode... Still have it though because the steelbook for it is still cool...

You know, the more I think about it, the more I realize I want the next MVC game to turn out just like this one.
Except even funnier. I want the next one to put the fun in function.

This was disappointing at the time, but looking back on the absurdity of it is really entertaining.

I'm watching Maximillian Dood play through the story mode, what a shitshow.

The game starts in medias res and then never snaps back to when things started. Most of the dialogue are the characters saying each other's names to highlight the ridiculousness of the team-up.

random_man9119 posted...

I do... Never finished the story mode... Still have it though because the steelbook for it is still cool...

I got the SteelBook version of this and for MvC3. It was a huge pain trying to find a copy of the SteelBook of MvC3, had to pull in some favors from a friend who worked at GameStop.

Anyway, glad to see DBFighterZ beat MvC at their own game. A fast-paced 3v3 fighter.

Random observations about the Capcom half of the roster.

Arthur: That level 3 is all off. In UMVC3 it flooded the screen with fire effects, now you just have a few quickly fading explosions. Projectiles don't seem as fast and losing X Factor doesn't help.
Chris: Chris' taunt is "NEED AN EGG?" and he has the RE5 mercs theme. His model looks particularly off. What's with that animation frame during his LV3's startup where there's nothing on screen?
Chun-Li: She has that mid air lunging kick super except Japanese symbols don't appear on screen. It doesn't matter if they fixed her because the pre-release model is this game's legacy.
Dante: Hmm, an unenthused Dante with unsatisfying sound design for all his attacks? This game predicted DMC5!
Firebrand: Why is Firebrand on the base roster? Did they need someone to repeatedly lose or be Jedah's subordinate in the story? He has another level 3 where he just grabs them and throws them.
Frank West: What is this creature? A hybrid of DR2OTR and DR4? TJ Rotolo's lack of enthusiasm is funny. Fits the weird character model.
Haggar: He looks weird, I think it's the lighting. Might be the dead eyed stare even though every character in this game has it. His supers look worse than the UMVC3 counterparts and the line delivery often doesn't match the intensity of the animations.
Jedah: Better than most here. The big purple ocean looks great when you sit it next to some of the other moves in this game.
Mega Man X: It's the eyes. They're lifeless. No he's not a robot, he's a reploid, he's supposed to be closer to being alive than that at least. His theme song sounds like it's as bored of going to Chill Penguin first to get the leg upgrade as I am.
Monster Hunter: Oh they actually did it, they put FUNCTION in the game!
Morrigan: You know she didn't have a whole lot of personality in 3 so I'm not seeing a lot out of place.
Nemesis: Nemesis just seems out of place in this game. It's so strange watching him activate a super, the animated blue background flash up and then seeing his dull looking model perform a generic punch rush without the weightiness 3 game it.
Ryu: I know that's the MVC2 Shinku Hadoken but what a let down after 3's. What even is that alt costume? It's not the usual Evil Ryu, it's Ryu with the Shin Akuma color scheme.
Big Sig: Yes it's this game but I'm still happy he finally made it into one of these.
Spencer: You are now thinking about the Bionic Commando 2009 plot twist. He has a new super where he hits them once then puts a small explosive near them. Pretty sure a default Chris combo is more destructive than that.
Strider Hiryu: Wow that startup on the super where he unleashes the zoo looks wrong. They changed his song, it's less like the MVC hype version and closer to the original first level theme from the game. I do actually like that new air super. His weapon barely glows in this game.
Zero: Slightly more lively looking than X. The helmet often makes it look like he has angry eyes rather than big staring voids. I have no idea why they decided to make that LV3 hit multiple times when the point of it was to be a single big finishing slash.

invertedlegdrop posted...

man i remember Max Dood hyping this game up fierce...

he's is still bitter it failed all these years later...

Max Dood is a wussy

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Hmm, an unenthused Dante with unsatisfying sound design for all his attacks? This game predicted DMC5!

Wow. What a stupid comment. I'm with you 100 percent on shitting on Infinite but if you're going to sneak in something bad about DMC5 you suck.

You deserve 100 percent to be called out for that.

PenultmateGohan posted...

Wow. What a stupid comment. I'm with you 100 percent on shitting on Infinite but if you're going to sneak in something bad about DMC5 you suck.

Well firstly I didn't sneak it in, it's pretty overt.
And I don't think it's wrong. For all I know the MVCI guy could end up being more exciting than the Fine, one dance while wearing a cowboy hat for my fan and then it's back to brooding DMC5 Dante.

They should put DMC5 Dante in the next vs game for a better comparison.

PenultmateGohan posted...

Max Dood is a wussy

Max covers fighting games, period. I imagine he did try to see the silver lining, but if you saw his later coverage on the story mode you can hear him discuss the history of the game and the affect it had on him at launch.

There's a difference between a shill like - for example - a Muse or Melanie Martinez fan sending gore to critics in response to a poor review, and a person who covers general news and speculation who'll actually experience something, comment on it and revisit it later on with a broader frame of context.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

"Well firstly I didn't sneak it in, it's pretty overt."

It feels snuck in because it's in a discussion about MVCI and you leave it in at the end like "here's my shitty opinion about a different game by the way."

"And I don't think it's wrong. For all I know the MVCI guy could end up being more exciting than the Fine, one dance while wearing a cowboy hat for my fan and then it's back to brooding DMC5 Dante."

Considering that it's the same VA, yeah, he 'could' be more exciting. And he has been in DMC3 and DMC4. There's nothing wrong with a more serious Dante. A big part of the series is "Whoo hoo hoo hoo!" and "Blast off!" but that's not all there is to Dante. He's more serious in DMC1 which was his first appearance and though we all know DMC2 was bad, Dante is seen at the beginning of DMC4 being the serious and silent type until he meets Nero, who he suspects (and soon after confirms) is family.

Dante has a lot of trauma. Making quips is part of his DNA but even Peter Parker, king of quips, has issues. His character in 5 was great and, though flawed, is representative of someone who cares about his nephew and doesn't want him to get involved.

It's just such a stupid thing to attack about a game that is so good.

MVCI, character performance wise, is garbage. I wouldn't even compare the two.

"They should put DMC5 Dante in the next vs game for a better comparison."

A better comparison between a Dante who is 19 years old and a Dante who is over 40? I think it's already pretty clear.

Also, Dante still has plenty of silly moments in DMC5 despite him being more serious. Obviously not to the level of his 19 year old self. In DMC4 he was also making fun of everything constantly but let's be honest here. Nobody stood a chance against Dante in that game. He was probably bored off his ass and just wanted to see Nero pull through and better himself. In fact, that's exactly what he wanted. Every enemy in that game was a literal joke to Dante.

In 5, Dante loses (despite having fought for days) the first major fight and was knocked out so hard he was in a coma for a month. So he has to pull out the big guns to save the world.

Oh well I'm sorry it feels snuck in. It's not like I put it behind a spoiler tag or in brackets or anything.

I know all these things, I played it. I just think what he ended up being was boring. "Everyone knows Dante has fun and does cuhrayzee combos, but why does he do this? Because he is actually only pretending to have fun and it is a brief reprieve from his tormented inner monologue as this game will now demonstrate." Yeah no thanks give me the angry one or the one who's laughing at how nothing stands a chance against him any day.

I really don't like the weapons either. Gauntlets that force you to stop and jab/dance to recharge them. The world's slowest and least satisfying dual chainsaw. The sound design on Rebellion and KC are enough to make me wonder if I'm even doing damage.

And lately I've been thinking more and more that it's really just a dancing game. In previous games it was combat with the added incentive to style if you're really good, now it's like easily replicating DMC4 combo videos is the appeal.
He feels far more interested in peppering a helpless ragdoll with a million tiny hits than actually defeating demons. Staying in the air has been made simple to the point it hardly feels special. The difficulty came way down to help facilitate this too.

Maybe if they put DMC5 Dante in the next Vs Capcom game, they could make it so the first 10 hits of any combo do almost no damage but are mandatory to re-ignite Balrog. Or they could give him loads of endlag that requires you to spend most of your meter on Quad S cancels. Maybe one of his intro quotes could be a weary sigh.

I also think it's a shame they reused so much else from UMVC3 but didn't reuse Tekkaman Blade's moveset from Tatsunoko vs Capcom. It's like they were dead set on making him the coolest thing in that game by far.

And speaking of TvC, since it went back to 2v2, it would have been cool if they bought back giant characters.

Tatsunoko vs Capcom is a game that I regret not buying. I hope it gets re-released elsewhere.

Story mode was fun but the fact the arcade mode doesn't have character endings made me put it down and delete it off my PS4

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