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CyricZ
07/02/23 4:16:16 PM
#151:


It took me a while to realize that Jill actually had things to say during fights. She's just mixed down so low and it's a proximity volume that you can barely hear them.

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Rharyx211
07/02/23 4:18:50 PM
#152:


dameon_reaper posted...
Every time Clive grunts and speaks during his fights, I orgasm a little.

"STAY DOWN" has me having chills. I'm straight btw but Estinien was the perfect choice for Clive's VA. It just works.
Estinien and Clive have different actors.

Apparently, the first dragoon you encounter at the start of the game did have Estinien's actor as a casting gag, but I haven't looked into it to confirm it.

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Irony
07/02/23 4:22:39 PM
#154:


Problem is the gameplay is extremely simplistic while simultaneously the game itself is too easy

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CyricZ
07/02/23 4:23:17 PM
#155:


Irony posted...
the gameplay is extremely simplistic
It's simple for a Devil May Cry game, maybe.

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dameon_reaper
07/02/23 4:23:29 PM
#156:


Rharyx211 posted...
Estinien and Clive have different actors.

Apparently, the first dragoon you encounter at the start of the game did have Estinien's actor as a casting gag, but I haven't looked into it to confirm it.

Really? I swore someone told me it was Clive. Ah well. Still fantastic voice acting.
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Rharyx211
07/02/23 4:26:12 PM
#157:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You got more attacks and abilities the farther you get in the game, so it might "get old fast" during the opening hours because you're limited to using your small pool of attacks over and over again. But once you get access to a wider variety of elements, you can mix up your play style and it becomes more fun.

That said, the core gameplay in general is fun regardless, imo, due to how snappy and fast-paced it is. Especially after you can personalize what abilities you have equipped, it's fun to just run around and take out hordes of enemies in the fields.

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BakonBitz
07/02/23 4:39:06 PM
#158:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Like someone said it gets old at the beginning since you're pretty limited, but once stuff opens up and you Master abilities to mix and match that issue fixes itself, IMO.

If you ever feel that the gameplay's getting old I would encourage to switch around your abilities to try something new. There's a lot to work with.

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BigG777
07/02/23 4:43:08 PM
#159:


Wish you could equip more abilities though. Only 6 abilities starts to feel limited once you get all Eikons.
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CyricZ
07/02/23 6:00:13 PM
#162:


Okay Titan may not be as efficient as Garuda, but BOY IS IT SATISFYING TO LAND THE ORA ORA ORA.

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pegusus123456
07/02/23 9:12:27 PM
#163:


I finally managed to play some more and I gotta say, I don't love how flashy Cid's attacks are. It's been mostly fine, but when you're fighting a dragoon which also has blue lightningy abilities, it gets kind of confusing.

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Kaldrenthebold
07/02/23 10:33:48 PM
#164:


I'm at the Titan fight

This game is fucking superb. Like my god, everything it does just hits the right emotional beats. Just, well done

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Kaldrenthebold
07/02/23 10:35:30 PM
#165:


pegusus123456 posted...
I finally managed to play some more and I gotta say, I don't love how flashy Cid's attacks are. It's been mostly fine, but when you're fighting a dragoon which also has blue lightningy abilities, it gets kind of confusing.

go for the lightning orb and only use ramuh as a set up. The circle attack will chain lightning enemies if you snag a bunch. The lighting orb that does extra damage when hit is SO GOOD for will of wisps and when you break an enemies will

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pegusus123456
07/02/23 11:14:31 PM
#166:


I'm only on the first quest with Jill, I dunno if I wanna read that <_<

I found a scarecrow that looks like Vivi, that's kind of funny.

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CyricZ
07/02/23 11:15:12 PM
#167:


You don't want to read that. I think Kaldren misinterpreted where you were.

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Kaldrenthebold
07/02/23 11:19:09 PM
#168:


CyricZ posted...
You don't want to read that. I think Kaldren misinterpreted where you were.

Yep, that was my mistake. I deleted it so my apologies >_>

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pegusus123456
07/02/23 11:27:11 PM
#169:


No worries.

I did read like the first three words though, so I kind of have an inkling <_<

But oh well lol, it's not really a surprise.

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MJOLNRVII
07/03/23 8:32:23 AM
#170:


pegusus123456 posted...
I found a scarecrow that looks like Vivi, that's kind of funny.
I love these. Even used photo mode to take a pic of one.

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CyricZ
07/03/23 11:09:01 AM
#171:


Ho doggy that Titan fight is a hoot.

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AI_TechGam3FAQS
07/03/23 11:11:59 AM
#172:


TC I didnt think you would be playing this game

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Nasty_Nitro
07/03/23 1:08:03 PM
#174:


This is like Game of Thrones of Final Fantasy lol

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spikethedevil
07/03/23 1:27:48 PM
#175:


Nasty_Nitro posted...
This is like Game of Thrones of Final Fantasy lol

Game of Final Fantasy Thrones.

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Nasty_Nitro
07/03/23 1:36:32 PM
#176:


spikethedevil posted...
Game of Final Fantasy Thrones.

The king was obviously gonna die

the wolves, the accents, the cursing, the brothel lol its like they binged GoT Season 2 & 3 before writing the story


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CyricZ
07/03/23 1:38:39 PM
#177:


It hits so many of GoT's specific beats.

  • Happy and noble family whose betrayal kickstarts the entire plot including the beheading of the patriarch.
  • Hostage wards meant to ensure peace growing up with children of said family (although I will grant that that one's an historical trope).
  • Evil blonde mother obsessed with her own power to the point of placing her child son on the throne.
  • Child ruler themselves obsessed with being close to their mother at all times and unable to communicate.
  • Heavily religious islanders living in the west sea and being thought of as less civilized than those living on the mainland.
  • Birds that can carry messages are an old trope, but special attention is paid to them and they're treated as "above" the old days of carrier pigeons.
There are a lot more that existed prior and GoT used just as XVI did, but those few are particularly notable.

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Kaldrenthebold
07/03/23 7:55:43 PM
#178:


CyricZ posted...
Ho doggy that Titan fight is a hoot.

I just did that myself. The music was... Not ideal, which really sucked. The one fight that could have used the extreme bombast is an orchestral score and we get some weird nurock song. Really made me not enjoy it as much as I should have

We can't forget the comparisons to dbz and Kaiju goodness as well. Game of final ball Kaiju fantasy

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CyricZ
07/03/23 8:26:51 PM
#179:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
The one fight that could have used the extreme bombast is an orchestral score and we get some weird nurock song.
You kidding me? That was super hype!

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Rharyx211
07/03/23 8:58:08 PM
#180:


Yeah, the music during the Titan fight was amazing. Got my blood pumping.

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FF_Redux
07/04/23 3:44:16 AM
#181:


Damn finally a challenging battle. Doing the second S Rank. Need to avoid certain attacks as they one shot me. And my lightning rod combos are hard to hit with.

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BakonBitz
07/04/23 12:29:21 PM
#182:


Those chronoliths are also fairly challenging, been trying and failing to clear one of them.

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Rharyx211
07/04/23 1:05:40 PM
#183:


I did the Ice chronolith and managed to scrape by in one attempt, but I was almost dead. Haven't attempted any of the others yet.

Did my first S-Class hunt yesterday as well and that was intense.

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Nasty_Nitro
07/04/23 1:26:57 PM
#184:


CyricZ posted...
You kidding me? That was super hype!


right that song fucking rocked


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MJOLNRVII
07/04/23 1:30:17 PM
#185:


BakonBitz posted...
Those chronoliths are also fairly challenging, been trying and failing to clear one of them.
These don't seem to scale so if you want you can come back later. I only ever failed the Phoenix one and the rest felt like a breeze(or maybe I suck with Phoenix).

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Kaldrenthebold
07/04/23 1:56:07 PM
#186:


Well seems I'm in the minority of that song choice then cause I seriously thought it just hurt the fight completely. I'll give it a listen tomorrow proper and see if I think the same

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MJOLNRVII
07/04/23 1:58:34 PM
#187:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
Well seems I'm in the minority of that song choice then cause I seriously thought it just hurt the fight completely. I'll give it a listen tomorrow proper and see if I think the same
Can't speak for anyone else here but a part of regular XIV Titan's theme plays during the XVI Titan fight which might have helped some here like the song.

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BakonBitz
07/04/23 2:22:29 PM
#188:


MJOLNRVII posted...
These don't seem to scale so if you want you can come back later. I only ever failed the Phoenix one and the rest felt like a breeze(or maybe I suck with Phoenix).
That's good. The Phoenix one was precisely the one I was having trouble with, lol. I'll come back later when I'm at a higher level.

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Seaman_Prime
07/04/23 3:29:53 PM
#189:


I just learned you can do a 4x magic burst combo and a 3x one in the air. Goddamnit gonna have to bash my head into a wall to commit that to muscle memory
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Rharyx211
07/04/23 3:44:08 PM
#190:


MJOLNRVII posted...
Can't speak for anyone else here but a part of regular XIV Titan's theme plays during the XVI Titan fight which might have helped some here like the song.
That was definitely part of it. As soon as I recognized the music, I felt like I was Priming in real life.

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hockeybub89
07/04/23 8:15:32 PM
#191:


I understand why some Bearers get their brand removed, but wouldn't the giant cheek scar kind of inform people of who you are?

Also, Kupka's hands went bye-bye.

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Rharyx211
07/04/23 8:44:27 PM
#192:


hockeybub89 posted...
I understand why some Bearers get their brand removed, but wouldn't the giant cheek scar kind of inform people of who you are?
Yeah, this point is kinda silly to me.

Like, "without our brand, we can move freely," but like...you literally now just have a brand-shaped scar right where it was. The common civilian would have to be a braindead idiot or incredibly gullible to not realize right away what was going on.

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CyricZ
07/04/23 8:55:51 PM
#193:


I think that one's on the level, because the very idea of removing a brand is incredibly risky.

If you haven't learned that yet through a sidequest, then I'll say no more.

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Kaldrenthebold
07/04/23 8:57:36 PM
#194:


Rharyx211 posted...
Yeah, this point is kinda silly to me.

Like, "without our brand, we can move freely," but like...you literally now just have a brand-shaped scar right where it was. The common civilian would have to be a braindead idiot or incredibly gullible to not realize right away what was going on.

They already said that attempting to remove the brand causes a poison to seep into the blood and kill them if not done properly. It's a big choice for any of them and I assume that the scar is nothing to the rest of the populace because no one cares. It's not a brand, so it's not a concern

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CyricZ
07/04/23 9:30:35 PM
#195:


Y'know I kinda like the sidequest "Bearer of Good News" in Boklad. All it is is talking to some people, but I've always loved side stuff that's just people enjoying each other's company and being happy for small joys.

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Rharyx211
07/04/23 10:16:58 PM
#196:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
the scar is nothing to the rest of the populace because no one cares. It's not a brand, so it's not a concern
That's the dumb part. Bearers are hated because they're Bearers, not because of the ink. If I lived in that world, and I saw someone with a brand-shaped scar I'd immediately know they were just a Bearer that had their mark removed. It shouldn't stop them from being discriminated against, unless -- like I said -- everyone in Valisthea is an idiot.

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Rharyx211
07/04/23 10:24:31 PM
#197:


Anyway, just beat the game.

Ending was pretty stupid, and I feel like they didn't address some things (also, where the fuck was Leviathan?) but overall like a 7.5/10 game. The middle part of the game, up to the Bahamut fight, was the high point. It set the bar way too high for how meh everything that followed was.

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BakonBitz
07/05/23 3:15:06 AM
#198:


"I never knew a smile could bring me such joy."

Just got to that scene...Christ game don't make me cry.

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CyricZ
07/05/23 7:06:48 AM
#199:


Rharyx211 posted...
That's the dumb part. Bearers are hated because they're Bearers, not because of the ink. If I lived in that world, and I saw someone with a brand-shaped scar I'd immediately know they were just a Bearer that had their mark removed. It shouldn't stop them from being discriminated against, unless -- like I said -- everyone in Valisthea is an idiot.
Because you know that the marks can be removed. Most people in the world don't know the marks can be removed. It's a very risky and uncommon procedure, and they very much tell you this in one of the sidequests.

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Rharyx211
07/05/23 8:59:40 AM
#200:


CyricZ posted...
Because you know that the marks can be removed. Most people in the world don't know the marks can be removed. It's a very risky and uncommon procedure, and they very much tell you this in one of the sidequests.
I mean, even then, there's an NPC who looks at you suspiciously and goes "Where did you get that scar...?" before deciding not to pursue the topic. Like, it's super easy to connect the dots. I mean, it is the literal same shape as the Bearer brand, and in the same location. Which brings me back to my point about everyone just being gullible.

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