Board 8 > Gamefaq Mafia Mafia Topic 4. Blood, Sweat, and Beers?

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I specifically said I didnt see anything that made me think death or Kirby was scum. Isquen said he had a gut death was scum but did not elaborate. If people cant see the difference between me (not seeing anything that threw up red flags) and you (something is off but I wont even attempt to elaborate or figure out whats not sitting right!) then lol

Isquen may be paired with Corrik... we know corrik has strong personality and that he was convinced that there's a role cop this game. We just had scum Miller, why not town gf? It would play well into the role cop that corrik thought existed.

PeaceFrog posted...

Yeah that's what i was trying to imply, to see if red would take that bait.

That's exactly why i called my scan useless on d2... but red's result contained "when i think of Red i think of scum" so i was feeling pretty vindicated last night.

Red did not take the tracker bait, and his details on his role pm check out. When he said the word "unfortunate" i changed my mind to thinking that he's probably clean.

Interesting. I can leave this as it is for now I think.

##Unvote
##Vote: Corrik

If it's not you or Red, the only one in the entire game in my scumlist Corrik, which does in fact change how we view yesterday.

Yesterday was a scum/scum lynch for a very long time. The worst votes on that board are Isquen's (avoiding both and voting town) and IGCD's (Softest reasoning). Red's not much better though.. He didn't say a whole lot, avoided lynching either, and had his vote on town.

Today's lynch is pretty much as obvious as it gets now though. The last one is going to be trickier.

PeaceFrog posted...

Isquen may be paired with Corrik... we know corrik has strong personality and that he was convinced that there's a role cop this game. We just had scum Miller, why not town gf? It would play well into the role cop that corrik thought existed.

Isquen being paired with Corrik could explain Isquen having the stones to vote for me last night - Because Corrik told him to. It's playing on my mind now if I consider you+Red as town because it means I'm missing someone. He also has one of the worst votes on the board yesterday.

It seems debatable how randomized the roles were (I read it as first everyone was randomly assigned alignment, then Sultan handpicked roles that fit their alignment + balance) but if Isquens role is all about being mislynched, wouldnt miller have made more sense for him if town? I realize flavor meta is a dangerous game and we shouldnt lynch someone based on it, but its worth considering since Isquen already looks quite scummy.

PeaceFrog posted...

Isquen may be paired with Corrik... we know corrik has strong personality and that he was convinced that there's a role cop this game. We just had scum Miller, why not town gf? It would play well into the role cop that corrik thought existed.

...Scum Miller?

Am I missing even more context here?

Crescent, last game Suprak was scum miller, and he was informed there was no other miller in the game.

Isquen was like a dog with a bone suspecting Supak, and I think he mightve literally been the only one.

Final d2 votals:
(4) SBell: Wallz, (Lea), (Ulti), Crescent, (IGCD), (Peaf), IGCD, Ulti
(2) Corrik: (Isquen), Lea, Red, (IGCD), (Death)
(1) Wallz: (Isquen), (Lea), (Ulti), (IGCD), (Lea), (Red), Isquen
(2) Peaf: Corrik, SBell
(0) Red: (Peaf), (Ulti)
(0) Crescent: (IGCD), (Corrik)
(0) Death: (Isquen)
(0) Lea: (Isquen)
(0) Isquen: (IGCD)
(0) IGCD: (Isquen)
(0) Ulti: (Corrik), (Corrik)

No vote down at eod: peaf, death

Death is confirmed town. I know i am town. The only non-sbell/corrik votes came from sbell, Corrik, and isquen.

Only other*** non-sbell/corrik

wallmasterz posted...

Crescent, last game Suprak was scum miller, and he was informed there was no other miller in the game.

Isquen was like a dog with a bone suspecting Supak, and I think he mightve literally been the only one.

Oh

Ok that knowledge does make me trust "town godfather" less because it does seem like it could be directly sheeping off of "scum miller".

PeaceFrog posted...

Final d2 votals:
(4) SBell: Wallz, (Lea), (Ulti), Crescent, (IGCD), (Peaf), IGCD, Ulti
(2) Corrik: (Isquen), Lea, Red, (IGCD), (Death)
(1) Wallz: (Isquen), (Lea), (Ulti), (IGCD), (Lea), (Red), Isquen
(2) Peaf: Corrik, SBell
(0) Red: (Peaf), (Ulti)
(0) Crescent: (IGCD), (Corrik)
(0) Death: (Isquen)
(0) Lea: (Isquen)
(0) Isquen: (IGCD)
(0) IGCD: (Isquen)
(0) Ulti: (Corrik), (Corrik)

No vote down at eod: peaf, death

Death is confirmed town. I know i am town. The only non-sbell/corrik votes came from sbell, Corrik, and isquen.

Oh I see. I forgot the votals were changed again after the lynch. Red didn't actually end the day on Wall.

Oh, look at that, Corrik is at minus one and I have to go to work. I'm going to take this opportunity to tie Wallz to Peaf as a scum duo for flavor reasons if my flip gets posted.

If I'm alive and there's a day 4 I'd love to see your reasoning against me thought out a bit better.

##unvote
##vote: Corrik
Stop?

@TheSultanOfSlam

FINAL votals
(5)Corrik: (Wallz), Red,wallz, ulti, Creasent moon, Isquen
(1)Creasent: (Isquen), (corrik), Corrik
(0) Red: (Peaf),( Ulti), (Crescent,) (Wallz,) (corrik)
(0) Wallz:(isquen
(0)Peaf: (Corrik)

Filp to follow

Holy fuck I was trying to get some work done, you Killed someone? What you killed Corrik?! Why would Yinz do such a thing? Why would Yinz kill Corrik this makes no sense. He was innocent I tells ya. He gave me a fucking Pinapple as a thank you gift for the invite. Yinz are monsters how could do this to my fellow. Yinzer! YINZ BETTER FIX THIS AND FIND SCUM IN THIS MANS HONOR YINZ HERE ME?!

Corrik was eliminated he was:

Corrik: Town Pineapple Vendor

Yinz should have known this was coming. Well maybe not, but when I think of Corrik other than being a fellow yinzer I think of Pineapples and how I drove you crazy in Psych Mafia with Pineapples and yinz not getting one! So now yinz get to be the annoying one more than usual and give anyone who visits yinz a Pineapple for no fucking reason!

Yinz win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Eliminated:
Pregame:Ctes Town Vanilla Chaos Tony Scum Vanilla
D1:Kirby Scum Prostitute
N1:Lopen Town Vanilla
D2: Sbell scum Roleblocker
N2: death Town Doctor
D3. Corrik Town Pineapple Vendor

It was the Darkest night imaginable.....
Not only one of you are gone but two, two in the same night. One of you never made it back to your room as you are lying in the middle of the hall way. It looks as if you may have had something slipped into your drink. That was IGCD. You looked confused as you were on your way to retire for the night like all of a sudden a pain hit your stomach like one you have never felt before. You grasp your handcuffs as if you were ready to go make an arrest but were unable to make it.

The other was in the Library doing word puzzles trying not to go mad figuring them out. You got frustrated trying to put all the clues together. You look into your note book but nothing seemed to be adding up. You turn to retire for the night thinking maybe sleeping on it would give you the answers. You must have turned to see your slayer it was you all along wasnt it you go to make an arrest yourself but it was too late you were shit faster that you could have ever imagined. Sultan examines the Body. It was peaf he wrote in his Note book that he will get to the bottom of this but he just hasn't had the chance.

IGCD had died he was:
IGCD: Town Cop

Voted Chris' most improved GameFAQs Mafia player! You sometimes live up to the hype, but other times in the dead town chat I shake my head and go, oh IGCD you're way off. When I think of IGCD, I don't know why but I can't help cheer and root for you when I know you're town.

So here is a little help go catch the scum and use the cop scan to your advantage! Submit a target each night and you will be informed if theyre guilty or not. If God could die, so can scum.

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Peaf has died he was:

Peaf: Town Flavor Cop

Hi Peaf. How are you? You may be asking why youre a flavor cop. Well, for some reason I feel you'd think this is helpful... When I think of Peaf, well its hard since you are relatively new to me, but you seem to be a pretty solid player and sometimes ask good questions and sometimes ask really stupid questions. But who doesnt do that?

So you think it's helpful to have a flavor scan, so have at it! Each night, you will scan someone and be given one sentence from their role PM to help figure out who they are.

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Eliminated:
Pregame:Ctes Town Vanilla Chaos Tony Scum Vanilla
D1:Kirby Scum Prostitute
N1:Lopen Town Vanilla
D2: Sbell scum Roleblocker
N2: death Town Doctor
D3. Corrik Town Pineapple Vendor Eliminated:
N3: IGCD Town Cop and Peaf Town Flavor Cop

The living
1. Isquen
2. Crescent-Moon
3. Lea
4. Wallz
5.red
6.Ulti

UltimaterializerX posted...

When I think of Red, I think of scum.

If we refuse to lynch this scan result its as dumb as refusing to lynch Lea the scum puppet. Like sometimes you just take the 35000 foot view and stop overthinking things. If Red is town, hey I can accept losing to a flavor trap. Whatever.

He literally withheld the rest of his line which got to an "unfortunately" and i literally filled in the blank for him. I didn't tiptoe around having to quote but not quote my role PM just to have people think I'm scum for it.

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If it helps you, I can park my vote somewhere without hammering it this time around, but I can assure you I am not getting lynched today.

Honestly, the people I'd blame most at this point are the ones who HAVEN'T claimed a bloody thing, or things that don't vibe with the game. Scum targeted both cops because they were scared that they could verify something that they probably already know about my flavor if anyone ever bothered targeting me, or if they double-checked Red and/or IGCD.

It's also really easy for Lea to be claiming mason with a cop at this point when she *conveniently* has no way to prove it now.

Sorry, not IGCD*. I meant Crescent, because I sure as hell would cop scan a replacement, having been on the other side of that before.

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Isquen ending the day early rubs me the wrong way a lot. I think that is box 1 to start. I don't doubt you in the slightest either. The obvious answer is Isquen/Wallz but I haven't had time to check everything. I don't like early day ends and I especially don't like early starts. Especially when I am at my usual weird hour sleep schedule.

And that isn't to say I hate early hammers. But I always find the 24 hour break in days to be important. Not just for reading back, but kind of as a cleanser to stew in my own head. When I wake up and see the day ended and theres some single digit number of hours til the day starts, I really miss that.

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Because lol day 1, that's why. I'm perfectly content with going after wallz, though, if you want, because I have reason to doubt tree stump.

##vote: Wallz

And that's how confident I am. Y'all are so cowardly when it comes to actually hammering ever. "My vote's on Corrik btw" and failing to do it, pssht. If I didn't hammer, you would've overnight. The fact you're hiding behind a "well *I* didn't do it by the way your baking is sexual hur hur hur" has ended its statute of limitations. It's summer, Lea, and I only make suspect baked goods in the wintertime.

Also, awfully convenient for Crescent to vanish completely. Mind you that she was one of the biggest advocates for Corrik getting lynched yesterday, and I obliged like a jackass. Where's that gloating at now, hm?

Someone please remind me if she claimed anything. Meanwhile, I'll olive branch: I am super confident in not getting mislynched today, because I *can't.* I'm unlynchable, not godfather. This is why I doubt wallz's claim in particular.

The simple thing to do would be nail red and stop overthinking it, but then it means wallz or crescent remains if we indeed had 4 scum. It also means, if godfather is so common and we now have no cops, that one of the remaining has an innocent scan under their belt. What did the actual cop claim before?

My unlynchable status, by the way, is why I've been super suspicious of wallz since his claim.

Yes, I get that this means I'm probably dying tonight.

Isquen posted...

Also, awfully convenient for Crescent to vanish completely. Mind you that she was one of the biggest advocates for Corrik getting lynched yesterday, and I obliged like a jackass. Where's that gloating at now, hm?

Someone please remind me if she claimed anything. Meanwhile, I'll olive branch: I am super confident in not getting mislynched today, because I *can't.* I'm unlynchable, not godfather. This is why I doubt wallz's claim in particular.

The simple thing to do would be nail red and stop overthinking it, but then it means wallz or crescent remains if we indeed had 4 scum. It also means, if godfather is so common and we now have no cops, that one of the remaining has an innocent scan under their belt. What did the actual cop claim before?

My unlynchable status, by the way, is why I've been super suspicious of wallz since his claim.

Yes, I get that this means I'm probably dying tonight.

The right play at 6 is to test this, I think.

UltimaterializerX posted...

It might be an attempt at a game winning scum gambit.

"That wily Isquen, he planned to look like a goober from the beginning after such an abysmal showing last game and that hammer last night."

All you would do is turn my death into a no lynch, and unless anyone has any other night actions (doubt) you just remove another townie from play anyways.

It's now 4:15 am and I have an author visit tomorrow at work, so while we have two evenings to faff about, please try considering a wallz ISO.

okay so I have a problem with your claim. At an even number of players, there is 0 reason for you to ever claim unlynchable here.

You basically have scum in a trapped scenario where they would out themselves to hammer and try claim victory only to end up royally screwed. Its something you could literally just hold in your pocket.

Coming up and going "lol I'm unlynchable but also don't lynch me" definitely makes me raise some eyebrows.

I wonder why Isquens claim changed at this exact moment. In completely unrelated news, RIP flavor cop Peaf.

Isquen, I isod you after d3 ended and have some questions for you.

You never mentioned sbell a single time. Your only interaction was this: 1.133 (to Sbell) - But what about INSANE Psychic reindeer voting game powers?

Is there a reason you never talked about Sbell? Tell us if you thought he was scum or town both d1 before the gladiate and d2 when the lynch train gradually left the station.

Also, Isquens voting record through the end of day 3 is not good! Its possible he voted for scum zero times so far.

1.017 Lopen (town) later said not a real vote
1.079 Peaf (town)
1.131 Wallz (town)
1.177 Lopen (town) for real this time
2.007 Death (town)
2.104 Wallz (town)
2.111 Death (town)
2.289 Corrik (town)
2.293 Lea (???)
2.298 IGCD (town)
3.093 Wallz (town)
4.066 Crescent (???)
4.297 Wallz (town)
4.313 Corrik (town)

Isquen posted...

Scum targeted both cops because they were scared that they could verify something that they probably already know about my flavor if anyone ever bothered targeting me, or if they double-checked Red and/or IGCD.

You want us to believe youre town, naturally - why would scum be scared the cops could verify something about town Isquens flavor?

Isquen posted...

Because lol day 1, that's why. I'm perfectly content with going after wallz, though, if you want, because I have reason to doubt tree stump.

Isquen posted...

Someone please remind me if she claimed anything. Meanwhile, I'll olive branch: I am super confident in not getting mislynched today, because I *can't.* I'm unlynchable, not godfather. This is why I doubt wallz's claim in particular.

The simple thing to do would be nail red and stop overthinking it, but then it means wallz or crescent remains if we indeed had 4 scum. It also means, if godfather is so common and we now have no cops, that one of the remaining has an innocent scan under their belt. What did the actual cop claim before?

My unlynchable status, by the way, is why I've been super suspicious of wallz since his claim.

Yes, I get that this means I'm probably dying tonight.

False. Isquen voted for me 4 times through the end of day 3 and never mentioned my claim as a reason why. In 3.093 said if he is indeed a tree stump which gave zero indication of suspecting me for my claim.

1.131 - Isquens first vote for me, only said no but clearly didnt like my reasoning for voting Lopen.

2.104 - Isquens second vote for me, called it a gut read and said me being the other death vote clinches it

3.093 - 3rd vote, and I quote: Mostly I'm suspecting Wallz because he was the other vote on Death that is still alive. And if he is indeed a tree stump, he can hang back and be a wallzflower.

4.297 - 4th vote: Wallz: hasn't been around enough games but throws out dad jokes regardless of alignment. I respect the hustle but voting history and reasoning behind them feels a bit wanting, which ironically causes more of a town lean than anything. Occam's razor, he's probably scum.