Board 8 > Gamefaqs mafia mafia Topic 6: The Haunted Manor; well kinda?

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Crescent-Moon posted...

As someone who's still never fully read day 1, IGCD was super obviously counterclaiming without actually counterclaiming.

Yes, but it wasn't just that IGCD wasn't killed. IGCD was masoned and then killed on a weird day. Scum had to have some motivation to keep him alive, and its probably due to the scum role(My guess is it took time to execute him).

Scum could have roleblocked him. Instead, hes counterclaiming and is somehow untouched except by a supposed mason recruiter?

it doesn't make logical sense.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Oh please it's as not in my nature as obliterating my only scumbuddy replacing into the game would've been. I was planning to roll over and die to Isquen immediately today just to save the game the trouble.

Oh no that was mostly in jest. I was like 99% sure you were town at that point.

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So why wasn't he killed immediately. Or why weren't you killed since you supposedly outed yourself as mason.

Hell they could have killed both of you at once because they would assume IGCD still gets a scan off that you could send to us(Becuase I did in fact tell sultan this last time, and he said sorry it was his mistake).

And lets be honest, we know how b8 works. You are probably "godfather loaded shit role". Cop has no use except confirming OTHER people, which if you had IGCD's trust, you probably didnt want him to do, hence murdering him.

Isquen was host confirmed town. Ulti, Reds biggest critic, was killed instead.

Then Isquen was killed when, I dunno, I think a scum Lea would probably rather be here with Isquen and Crescent. It probably wouldve been the better play, assuming Im right about red.

(Or the murdering was required by your role, honestly, that might be a more reasonably explanation)

wallmasterz posted...

Isquen was host confirmed town. Ulti, Reds biggest critic, was killed instead.

Okay this is bad circular logic. Because as scum you know you have to take this to F3. If I killed Ulti I would know "Ulti is red's biggest critic" is going to get brought up to hell and back the whole game.

Red went from a robot saying trust IGCD trusting Lea! to becoming more suspicious of Lea without really explaining why. I think the change happened when crescent and lea had their spat. Red figures he could bring crescent and lea to f3 and one of the two of them would vote the other, allowing him to hammer and win.

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It isn't about that night though, they'd had a shot at the cop on n1. doc was claimed.

red13n posted...

Okay this is bad circular logic. Because as scum you know you have to take this to F3. If I killed Ulti I would know "Ulti is red's biggest critic" is going to get brought up to hell and back the whole game.

Yeah. But I think you just have to get rid of your biggest opponent there and worry about that later, if it comes up. Take it one day at a time. Assuming Im right red, Ill give you credit for making it a hell of a lot farther than you mightve considering your two scummates were lynched d1 and d2. Its hilarious we were 10 seconds away from the game ending d3 as a sweep.

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Peaf had the fucking scan. I literally dropped "unfortunately" part of the prompt he was given and told him exactly what was after it.

And again, why didn't they double kill the cop way earlier? The answer is their extra kill was attached to the mason ability.

Scum's actions night 1 are... Interesting. Specifically, they roleblocked Corrik.

Why did scum roleblock Corrik, of all people? I get watcherfear on the doctor - But on the cop, too? I brought this up yesterday, but IGCD was the perfect target for Lea's role if she's scum.

It led me to posit yesterday that she could kill IGCD any time she wanted, and could've done it night 1 if she found out he was targeting scum.

The person who almost died before the gladiate was SBell. SBell didn't do jack during the gladiate. It feels like scum should've been pretty worried IGCD is going to scan him.

Hurray, theorycrafting.

wallmasterz posted...

Isquen was host confirmed town. Ulti, Reds biggest critic, was killed instead.

Then Isquen was killed when, I dunno, I think a scum Lea would probably rather be here with Isquen and Crescent. It probably wouldve been the better play, assuming Im right about red.

Ulti was killed because people might've actually listened to him and not lynched you yesterday.

wallmasterz posted...

Yeah. But I think you just have to get rid of your biggest opponent there and worry about that later, if it comes up. Take it one day at a time. Assuming Im right red, Ill give you credit for making it a hell of a lot farther than you mightve considering your two scummates were lynched d1 and d2. Its hilarious we were 10 seconds away from the game ending d3 as a sweep.

You aren't right, wallz. Surprise, town can be fucking wrong. Which you seem to not get. You need to look at scum motivations, not look at "oh town was wrong they must be scum". Look at why people do shit all game. And for the love of everything stop looking at ulti of all people. He isn't fucking informed on my alignment any better than anyone else.

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He had the fucking scan and knew I tipped him on my flavor.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Scum's actions night 1 are... Interesting. Specifically, they roleblocked Corrik.

Why did scum roleblock Corrik, of all people? I get watcherfear on the doctor - But on the cop, too? I brought this up yesterday, but IGCD was the perfect target for Lea's role if she's scum.

It led me to posit yesterday that she could kill IGCD any time she wanted, and could've done it night 1 if she found out he was targeting scum.

The person who almost died before the gladiate was SBell. SBell didn't do jack during the gladiate. It feels like scum should've been pretty worried IGCD is going to scan him.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Scum's actions night 1 are... Interesting. Specifically, they roleblocked Corrik.

Why did scum roleblock Corrik, of all people? I get watcherfear on the doctor - But on the cop, too? I brought this up yesterday, but IGCD was the perfect target for Lea's role if she's scum.

It led me to posit yesterday that she could kill IGCD any time she wanted, and could've done it night 1 if she found out he was targeting scum.

The person who almost died before the gladiate was SBell. SBell didn't do jack during the gladiate. It feels like scum should've been pretty worried IGCD is going to scan him.

Seriously, theres only 1 explanation for leaving the cop "alone". And then knowing later that Lea was bullshitting mason claims. Its because they were the mason.

Also my mouse keeps double clicking when I single click so excuse the double quotes.

Red being town requires two things (Lea is scum in this scenario obviously).

Peafs scan is a trap for town, and Leas role is also a trap for town. If we lose to that, so be it. Annoying and disappointing as anything but will make me less interested in repeatedly punching myself in the crotch after the flips happen. This kind of reminds me of a juror on survivor line of thinking. If you cant win, think about who youd rather lose to. Lea being scum is less simple than red being scum. Red has overall been the living embodiment of cmon do something

That alone isnt a good basis for choosing who to lynch, but not only would I rather lose to Lea, I genuinely think Red being scum makes the most sense. Constructive criticism Ive received is I keep looking for elaborate gambits when I should look at Occams razor instead.

Also Wallz I hammer the fuck out of Crescent if I'm scum. Everyone knows this. I already went over this with crescent. I am fucking ravenous as scum when I smell blood. I don't pay attention to shit else in the world, especially on a saturday when I really have shit thats important to do.

You have obvious shit staring in front of you and you are wasting your time overbuilding a narrative that is just plain wrong.

wallmasterz posted...

Leas role is also a trap for town.

Thats not a fucking trap. IGCD misplayed it.

By the way Wall, outside of insta-lynching Kirby day 1 (And the last time I saw Lea as scum in ST, she bussed Chris into the ground on day 1)... Is Lea's voting history really that much better than Red's?

You've run multiple lists of Red's votes. Run one of hers, I want to see what you find outside of Kirby.

Its a "you have to guess this person's alignment". Thats literally what mafia is. It isn't like its some role trap. Scum neighbourizer has been a role here for awhile.

Crescent-Moon posted...

By the way Wall, outside of insta-lynching Kirby day 1 (And the last time I saw Lea as scum in ST, she bussed Chris into the ground on day 1)... Is Lea's voting history really that much better than Red's?

You've run multiple lists of Red's votes. Run one of hers, I want to see what you find outside of Kirby.

I know I went over it before. But Lea has the single worst vote of anyone here. Literally trying to save sbell and kill ulti with sbell on the ropes.

wallmasterz posted...

Red being town requires two things (Lea is scum in this scenario obviously).

Peafs scan is a trap for town, and Leas role is also a trap for town. If we lose to that, so be it. Annoying and disappointing as anything but will make me less interested in repeatedly punching myself in the crotch after the flips happen. This kind of reminds me of a juror on survivor line of thinking. If you cant win, think about who youd rather lose to. Lea being scum is less simple than red being scum. Red has overall been the living embodiment of cmon do something

That alone isnt a good basis for choosing who to lynch, but not only would I rather lose to Lea, I genuinely think Red being scum makes the most sense. Constructive criticism Ive received is I keep looking for elaborate gambits when I should look at Occams razor instead.

Peaf's scan was likely as useless as the role Red had in FFXIV. I didn't even factor it into the discussion yesterday after long.

Crescent, seriously. You've played this game enough. You know I smell fucking blood in the water as scum. So don't fucking blow this. You should know damn well how much I care about this game when things are at actual crunch time. If I were scum, you know 100% i'm sitting their F5, a vote for each of you setup in a tab on my second monitor, and if someone votes I burn you to fucking hell.

And I don't like going here, but wallz is inexperienced as shit. He hasn't dealt with me much. Especially not in a situation like this. His word should be taken with a grain of salt over the obvious.

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You'd know who he was scanning beforehand, unless he had the wherewithall to hide it from you.

I've fucking hammered games over while at Disney World. Thats how the whole fucking Disney meme started.

Lea voted Kirby d1, Corrik d2, no one d3, Isquen d4, me d5. The difference is red didnt vote d1 and Lea voted Kirby, Lea voted no one d3 and red voted Corrik.

I was 2000 miles away from home, barely able to play, but I still fucking hammered that game over because I get invested as fuck. It isn't hard to F5 and have a vote ready, even on phone.

And right now I am not fucking on phone. I've been home all day. And there isn't even a twitter to distract me because its dead.

wallmasterz posted...

Lea voted Kirby d1, Corrik d2, no one d3, Isquen d4, me d5. The difference is red didnt vote d1 and Lea voted Kirby, Lea voted no one d3 and red voted Corrik.

I voted sbell and then ulti made it a vote between 2 people. Then day ended while I was sleeping

This day 1 argument against me has been trash this whole game. Willful fucking ignorance.

Im not gonna lie mislynching me was really dumb. This couldve been a slam dunk, and I wont lie that Lea makes me a tiny bit uneasy still for all the reasons I laid out recently. But, she has actually resembled someone playing this game, unlike red.

red13n posted...

I know I went over it before. But Lea has the single worst vote of anyone here. Literally trying to save sbell and kill ulti with sbell on the ropes.

...I can't find a single vote from Lea on Ulti in the entire game.

Lea was on SBell before the gladiate on day 1. Lea's unvote on SBell isn't good, but when Lea voted Corrik, she made it 4-1. You immediately made it 4-2, then IGCD and Death made it 4-4.

I specifically questioned you on that vote, and you didn't really give me anything on return. Your vote on Corrik there is worse than hers and it's not even close.

red13n posted...

I was 2000 miles away from home, barely able to play, but I still fucking hammered that game over because I get invested as fuck. It isn't hard to F5 and have a vote ready, even on phone.

And right now I am not fucking on phone. I've been home all day. And there isn't even a twitter to distract me because its dead.

Its a bit hard to believe you expected someone to open the day with a vote.

red13n posted...

I voted sbell and then ulti made it a vote between 2 people. Then day ended while I was sleeping

This day 1 argument against me has been trash this whole game. Willful fucking ignorance.

Anyway, I've had to fight this all game and I'm sick of this argument in particular. Wall, this is why no one would ever list you high on a player tier list.

Now I'm getting too emotional and pulling up bitter emotions from a couple games ago that had me crying but are really just making me angry right now(Hence, I sat out a game).

So I'm going to go eat dinner to calm down. Crescent be fucking smarter than this shit.

wallmasterz posted...

Im not gonna lie mislynching me was really dumb. This couldve been a slam dunk, and I wont lie that Lea makes me a tiny bit uneasy still for all the reasons I laid out recently. But, she has actually resembled someone playing this game, unlike red.

To be fair, you making zero attempt to fight it was very unhelpful. You were such obvious town it's absurd.

Also I will say something nice, Lea you played a good game in terrible fucking circumstances good job.

red13n posted...

I voted sbell and then ulti made it a vote between 2 people. Then day ended while I was sleeping

This day 1 argument against me has been trash this whole game. Willful fucking ignorance.

You voted sbell in the first ~25 posts of the day. You were the second vote.