Board 8 > Gamefaqs mafia mafia Topic 6: The Haunted Manor; well kinda?

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Is there context missing here because that looks like Kirby defending Lea

Kirby was the 4th vote on sbell and posted questioning him which peaf sniffed out immediately. Kirby was in full blown bus mode.

Anyway wallz, when you receive notice that you have spent the day full on cheerleading for scum, what are you going to think? Thats a lot of time invested just to lose.

Red, yes or no, this was your most assertive post saying xyz person is scum? You were asked who youd lynch.

2.277 - Peaf. But most of this is just clouded thoughts by his insistence on taking over for Lea in the "incessantly trying to lynch red every game" for increasingly nonsense reasons.

red13n posted...

Anyway wallz, when you receive notice that you have spent the day full on cheerleading for scum, what are you going to think? Thats a lot of time invested just to lose.

All your posts like this only make me think youre scum more and more. Kirby and sbell both posted like this. You three were the only ones to not vote in gladiate d1. Etc.

luckily for you it seems likely crescent is gonna try to play 4D chess and bail you out, so its whatever.

wallmasterz posted...

Red, yes or no, this was your most assertive post saying xyz person is scum? You were asked who youd lynch.

2.277 - Peaf. But most of this is just clouded thoughts by his insistence on taking over for Lea in the "incessantly trying to lynch red every game" for increasingly nonsense reasons.

Without having all my posts in front of me? Possibly. I may have said something more about corrik. I am generally not particularly assertive as town unless I've got something to be near certain someone is scum. I've said it a few times, I'm much more assertive calling people town than I am of scum(Probably not worded this way, but its how I tend to work).

1.296 (Sbell) - scum Lea sounds upset that her happy sbell mislynch is now on her two scummates

Also, this seemed genuine to me. Sbell was barely engaged and never bussed Kirby or red.

wallmasterz posted...

All your posts like this only make me think youre scum more and more. Kirby and sbell both posted like this. You three were the only ones to not vote in gladiate d1. Etc.

Okay wallz, you really need to learn a lesson here. Different people can say similar things and it mean something completely different for their alignment. I am not kriby and sbell. This is a huge mafia fallacy on your part that you should correct in the future.

red13n posted...

Without having all my posts in front of me? Possibly. I may have said something more about corrik. I am generally not particularly assertive as town unless I've got something to be near certain someone is scum. I've said it a few times, I'm much more assertive calling people town than I am of scum(Probably not worded this way, but its how I tend to work).

Interesting, I cant stop hearing about how aggressive you are as scum. Ive also witnessed it firsthand. Like the game where you told someone to claim or youd kill them, then you literally killed them. Lol

And yes wallz, we get it, you are full fucking tunnel vision. This isn't contributing anything at this point.

Again, i'll back and forth with you well past being blue in the face but it really isn't as productive as you think it is.

Regardless of how this turns out I agree that it's an obvious logical fallacy.

wallmasterz posted...

Interesting, I cant stop hearing about how aggressive you are as scum. Ive also witnessed it firsthand. Like the game where you told someone to claim or youd kill them, then you literally killed them. Lol

I'm aggressive as fuck as town when push comes to shove too.

It takes me a long time to get like this as town. But I get there when I have to.

red13n posted...

Okay wallz, you really need to learn a lesson here. Different people can say similar things and it mean something completely different for their alignment. I am not kriby and sbell. This is a huge mafia fallacy on your part that you should correct in the future.

You are choosing to spend a chunk of your time posting things like guess what youre gonna feel really stupid when I flip town which isnt really helpful right now at best if youre town, and is manipulation if youre scum.

red13n posted...

And yes wallz, we get it, you are full fucking tunnel vision. This isn't contributing anything at this point.

Again, i'll back and forth with you well past being blue in the face but it really isn't as productive as you think it is.

It's funny to think about because you tunneled on him yesterday

Crescent-Moon posted...

Regardless of how this turns out I agree that it's an obvious logical fallacy.

What is?

wallmasterz posted...

You are choosing to spend a chunk of your time posting things like guess what youre gonna feel really stupid when I flip town which isnt really helpful right now at best if youre town, and is manipulation if youre scum.

Again, our cards are on the table. At this point my preference on what to do is "de-stress". I'll go back and reply to anything you bring up but from my end the game is settled except a Crescent vote.

Crescent-Moon posted...

It's funny to think about because you tunneled on him yesterday

Absolutely, but I made my contingency clear. I told you I was covering bases.

wallmasterz posted...

What is?

You keep directly comparing Red's actions to SBell's as if similar reactions from different players is correlation.

I do things that are conventionally considered scummy quite a lot as town.

Anyway crescent in regards to that, I'd made my PoE clear. If I had been perfect fucking town red, you and lea are town wall is scum and I get to brag to next tuesday or whatever. Did I want that to be right? Yep.

Was it? Nope. Did I know I could have been wrong? Yep. Did I have a plan on where to go with that? Yep.

red13n posted...

##vote: Lea

Fine, Crescent can have a win if Crescent is scum. Both of you showed up here trying to play both sides which honestly I wasn't quite prepared for.

But Lea doesn't have a great explanation for why sbell got shot and not her. It is the obvious answer in the setup.

Side note Red what were you prepared for?

red13n posted...

Anyway crescent in regards to that, I'd made my PoE clear. If I had been perfect fucking town red, you and lea are town wall is scum and I get to brag to next tuesday or whatever. Did I want that to be right? Yep.

Was it? Nope. Did I know I could have been wrong? Yep. Did I have a plan on where to go with that? Yep.

I wasn't joking when I said I was willing to bet the game that Wall was town.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Side note Red what were you prepared for?

I thought either someone comes for me and its a 1v1 or you two fight and I lynch Lea.

I wasn't prepared for both of you to go "well i think the other is scum, but red", especially after Lea opened with a vote on you.

Oh speaking of that I've always found it curious that you never told us who IGCD intended to target night 3 before he apparently ceased to exist

Lea already said red.

Crescent, she said it at least twice. I dont mean this rudely but maybe dont rush this hammer, go back and re-read some? My two cents.

Oh I overlooked that.

Either that or my nearly 2am brain is slowing down

Its post 4.321, I believe. Blastoff and what not.

as much as I want to party or commiserate in postgame we dont need to rush this, as nice as the closure would be. Its late. Well, early.

wallmasterz posted...

as much as I want to party or commiserate in postgame we dont need to rush this, as nice as the closure would be. Its late. Well, early.

I'm not intended to rush Crescent either, but I would appreciate us all reaching a point where we agree all cards are on table and to just defer to crescent for the rest of the day.

Noted - Red requests no further evidence requiring him to produce reads or defend himself be submitted.

Ill share your request with my client.

wallmasterz posted...

Noted - Red requests no further evidence requiring him to produce reads or defend himself be submitted.

Ill share your request with my client.

You already have a conclusion you keep trying to reinforce pointlessly. I'll happily fight anything you bring but for the love of god we had 48 hours yesterday. Cards were already on the table.

You are turning mafia into a job and at that point it isn't fun. Maybe you like doing that but I have limits.

Actually Red killing IGCD brings back up a major problem I brought up yesterday of way too much confirming ability. If Red is godfather, he knows there's a good chance IGCD scans him.. So why kill him?

It.. Brings up an interesting alternate theory actually. A different reason why IGCD died over Lea. IGCD was up Red's ass. It's possible scum killed the cop on accident.

Though it seems weird that Lea would be surprised by IGCD vanishing from the room. Seems like something you'd know beforehand.

I could go dig up every single post Lea made, make a scumcase, yadayadayada. But guess what? we are on the last day of a decent sized game. Yesterday was 48 hours.

I know the key points of the game, I've read every post twice over. Doing that again would be unfun. I've put my cards on the table. I've told people why I have the opinions I do. Forcing myself to re-read posts to reinforce an opinion Ive already made clear? Not fun.

https://discord.gg/5y2MFA8z

OKay this is still active.

This is the most damning new thing I meant to do but thought the chat was dead(I found it in my discords.

Give me one sec because discord doesnt wnat to copy/paste into gamefaqs properly.

That is the mason chat from alcohol mafia. Where we inform sultan that mason chats don't dissolve. And he literally goes "oops my bad you can stay in chat".

red13n posted...

https://discord.gg/5y2MFA8z

OKay this is still active.

This is the most damning new thing I meant to do but thought the chat was dead(I found it in my discords.

Give me one sec because discord doesnt wnat to copy/paste into gamefaqs properly.

...Is that even legal?

Why the fuck does discord not copy/paste into GFAQs properly? It makes weird line breaks with numbers and then says bad format and wont post.

Crescent-Moon posted...

...Is that even legal?

It is just an archive of an old mason board.

And you never brought this up before why

It would be the equivalent of linking off the fettbox or quoting off -redacted-. Don't chat in it obviously but its just publicly available mafia archives.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

But Sultan wanted it to be standardized. And a real mason would have been like "Why do you dissolve" and informed him it wasn't standard practice. He'd probably end up with the same response. But he knew mafia chats dont dissolve. No one forgets games they just hosted. This was recent.

This was literally 7 months ago.

Crescent-Moon posted...

And you never brought this up before why

I thought the chat was blown up because alot of hosts destroy their scum/mason boards after the game(Which annoys me cause i keep all of mine in discord folders). But I dug through my list and found it.

It was just a passing thought of "I've gone through everything" and it kind of lightbulbed in my head so I checked discord.